Invitation to all E bikers - why not have a go 23 June

[flecc]

Class 1) Open to anyone with a road legal bike that just fancies having a go - racing is not really the aim but it was to allow all to enter. Bike will be scrutineer-ed before racing to ensure we dont get anything dangerous entering. Open to ALL Ages ( over 14 to follow the rules)

Please don't strictly enforce that age limit, it isn't necessary. Alexander Henshaw, son of the A to B Magazine publisher, is an expert cyclist and has been riding e-bikes at such events since 9 years old at most. I don't think he's quite reached 14 years old at the moment and the Henshaws may well be there. After all, he is already taking a part in reviewing e-bikes as the test of the KTM e-Race P650 in the latest issue 95 shows in photos:

 

[50 Hertz]

You've just promoted yourself to the position of Fun Prevention Officer.

Can I shorten my title to FPO? I'd like to be remembered for contributing something to the forum, but the truth is, it probably won't even be that.

 

[mike killay]

all those taking part in a sprint up the hill will be pedalling like mad .

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Just gentle pedalling for me!!
That is why it will not be a race.

 

[103Alex1]

Think I've found a suitable helmet for a >250W category entry ....

RG-1 Core - Ruroc

 

[Marctwo]

Think I've found a suitable helmet for a >250W category entry ....

RG-1 Core - Ruroc

Are you trying to say they've turned to the dark side?

 

[Jonah]

Great video of the Brompton. I'm not sure all that would be possible on my Brompton with extra 6kg on the front. Or with the older Bromptons that don't have the catch to stop them folding up by themselves!

 

[billadie]

As usual, Shakespeare said it better:

"The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers"

(Henry VI, part II)

For pity's sake can't we have a bit of fun without citing Health & Safety, Insurance, the Avon and Somerset Police, the DVLA, the EU and (I may have imagined this last bit) the Moderator and General Assembly of the Free Presbyterian Church of Scotland.

I missed last years event, but I hope to get there this year. Compared with the sadly missed Presteigne, which sank to the levels of brazen ebike riding on open public roads and Hot Dog stalls, Atmosphere's event looks very restrained.

I know that the constant carping got to the organisers of the legendary Tour, and may have contributed to its demise. I hope it doesn't happen to Bristol.

Good luck and thanks, in advance, to all the organisers.

Bill

 

[Martin1]

As usual, Shakespeare said it better:

"The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers"

(Henry VI, part II)

For pity's sake can't we have a bit of fun without citing Health & Safety, Insurance, the Avon and Somerset Police, the DVLA, the EU and (I may have imagined this last bit) the Moderator and General Assembly of the Free Presbyterian Church of Scotland.

I missed last years event, but I hope to get there this year. Compared with the sadly missed Presteigne, which sank to the levels of brazen ebike riding on open public roads and Hot Dog stalls, Atmosphere's event looks very restrained.

I know that the constant carping got to the organisers of the legendary Tour, and may have contributed to its demise. I hope it doesn't happen to Bristol.

Good luck and thanks, in advance, to all the organisers.

Bill

I could not agree more, why has this forum got so many jobsworths suffering with a sense of humour/fun crisis?
Good luck to all the organisers and dont let these pedantic idiots spoil what should be a fun event.

Martin

 

[shemozzle999]

For pity's sake can't we have a bit of fun without citing Health & Safety, Insurance, the Avon and Somerset Police, the DVLA, the EU and (I may have imagined this last bit) the Moderator and General Assembly of the Free Presbyterian Church of Scotland.

Bill

Unfortunately not, the organizers are putting themselves at personal financial risk and would be silly to ignore any restrictions.


Event safety - Managing an event

 

[103Alex1]

I think I'm going to seriously consider leaving the UK again. Managed a good 20 years abroad free of people protecting me and others from myself perfectly happily with no damage done to anyone. The only damage resulted from moving to a nanny state - and nanny was the one who wound up causing the damage !

There is less and less to make life worth living in Britain these days. Most unfortunate.

 

[mike killay]

I know,
Why don't all those Great British Busybody, Nanny knows best, nit picking, fusspot, control freaks get some large white cardboards, write down their criticisms, and then come to the carnival, stand by the side of the road, and tell all and sundry who attend the event how wrong it all is.

Just don't stand to close to the river

 

[Marctwo]

I know,
Why don't all those Great British Busybody, Nanny knows best, nit picking, fusspot, control freaks get some large white cardboards, write down their criticisms, and then come to the carnival, stand by the side of the road, and tell all and sundry who attend the event how wrong it all is.

Just don't stand to close to the river

And they should all wear walking helmets...

 

[50 Hertz]

I could not agree more, why has this forum got so many jobsworths suffering with a sense of humour/fun crisis?
Good luck to all the organisers and dont let these pedantic idiots spoil what should be a fun event.

Martin

Is that it? Is that all you have got?

People, (mainly me, granted) are concerned that an open invitation has been posted for people to turn up on machines with no upper power limit or top speed specified and to race them on a street in Bristol. Not only this, the street has been closed on the pretext that this is essentially a cycling demonstration .

I have a genuine concern that this is irresponsible and has potential to reflect badly on ebikes and the people who use them. Now thats, a reasonable concern to have and if someone has a valid reason as to why motor vehicles should be taking part in a cycling event I am prepared to listen and have a sensible debate.

However, all that seems to be offered is rather tired and predictable phrases which usually include the word, Jobsworth or Spoilsport somewhere within the text. And I see that with you brain set to full power, you are only just capable of hammering out a similar hackneyed phrase. You have attained a level of inadequacy which, up until this point in time, I had not considered possible. Well done you!

Now, what about if we allow Bristol City Council and Avon & Somerset Police be the final arbiters in this debate? Would everyone be comfortable if I wrote a letter to the afore mentioned organisations setting out the fact that the CYCLING event for which they have granted permission is to include vehicles with an unspecified power and maximum speed. That these vehicles have been specifically identified by the organisers as illegal, which demonstrates a pre-meditated intention to breach the terms of the permission to stage the event. And finally, that these illegal machines are highly likely to carry no insurance. people with opposing views can lobby the Police and Council with the reasons why motor vehicles should take part.

I really, truly and honestly can not see why the moped monkeys have to take part. What is so bad and so wrong about legal bikes? It can still be an enormous amount of fun whilst simultaneously promoting ebiking as a responsible activity. You really don't need the mopeds in attendance.

I am serious about writing to these two organisations, because I'm starting to get bored with numb-skulls like Martin1. Someone give me a valid reason why tazzing around on a pseudo-moped at a cycling event is so necessary.

I know that I'm in the minority on this and that it makes me deeply unpopular with some, but what is being proposed just isn't right.

(and before dv8 ant, or whoever you are starts, no they aren't illegal, they are just awaiting inclusion into UK law. The things you are talking about are quite a different beast.)


FPO

 

[Deleted member 4366]

Is that it? Is that all you have got?

People, (mainly me, granted) are concerned that an open invitation has been posted for people to turn up on machines with no upper power limit or top speed specified and to race them on a street in Bristol. Not only this, the street has been closed on the pretext that this is essentially a cycling demonstration .

I have a genuine concern that this is irresponsible and has potential to reflect badly on ebikes and the people who use them. Now thats, a reasonable concern to have and if someone has a valid reason as to why motor vehicles should be taking part in a cycling event I am prepared to listen and have a sensible debate.

However, all that seems to be offered is rather tired and predictable phrases which usually include the word, Jobsworth or Spoilsport somewhere within the text. And I see that with you brain set to full power, you are only just capable of hammering out a similar hackneyed phrase. You have attained a level of inadequacy which, up until this point in time, I had not considered possible. Well done you!

Now, what about if we allow Bristol City Council and Avon & Somerset Police be the final arbiters in this debate? Would everyone be comfortable if I wrote a letter to the afore mentioned organisations setting out the fact that the CYCLING event for which they have granted permission is to include vehicles with an unspecified power and maximum speed. That these vehicles have been specifically identified by the organisers as illegal, which demonstrates a pre-meditated intention to breach the terms of the permission to stage the event. And finally, that these illegal machines are highly likely to carry no insurance. people with opposing views can lobby the Police and Council with the reasons why motor vehicles should take part.

I really, truly and honestly can not see why the moped monkeys have to take part. What is so bad and so wrong about legal bikes? It can still be an enormous amount of fun whilst simultaneously promoting ebiking as a responsible activity. You really don't need the mopeds in attendance.

I am serious about writing to these two organisations, because I'm starting to get bored with numb-skulls like Martin1. Someone give me a valid reason why tazzing around on a pseudo-moped at a cycling event is so necessary.

I know that I'm in the minority on this and that it makes me deeply unpopular with some, but what is being proposed just isn't right.

(and before dv8 ant, or whoever you are starts, no they aren't illegal, they are just awaiting inclusion into UK law. The things you are talking about are quite a different beast.)


FPO

You've spoilt our fun day. Why can't you just leave it at that. Are you going to the Bristol show? Perhaps we could meet.

 

[50 Hertz]

You've spoilt our fun day. Why can't you just leave it at that. Are you going to the Bristol show? Perhaps we could meet.

Is that a veiled threat? To answer your question, no I won't be there.

The good news is, it can still be a massive amount of fun. Ebikes are great, you should try one.

 

[RichB]

Truth is the police/council won't give a monkeys about what type of bikes take part, most of them won't know the difference. Whether a bike is doing 5, 10, 15 or 25mph what's the difference? The road is closed and any 'normal' bike is quite capable of 30 mph in the right circumstances (albeit not normally uphill!).

However by "offering" to write to the authorities you know full well that the council/police cannot then ignore any 15mph+ bikes, because if anything went wrong the 'Safety Nazi & We told you so' brigade would be out in force.

As I said before why don't you just leave them to it, rather than potentially ruining the event as the self-appointed moral crusader?

 

[shemozzle999]

-why not have a go 23 June

seems like some can not wait until 23 June

 

[billadie]

50 Hertz wrote:
"Would everyone be comfortable if I wrote a letter to the afore mentioned organisations setting out the fact that the CYCLING event for which they have granted permission is to include vehicles with an unspecified power and maximum speed. That these vehicles have been specifically identified by the organisers as illegal, which demonstrates a pre-meditated intention to breach the terms of the permission to stage the event. And finally, that these illegal machines are highly likely to carry no insurance. people with opposing views can lobby the Police and Council with the reasons why motor vehicles should take part"

Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn

 

[jackhandy]

Well, hurry up & make up your bloody mind - If you're dead set on ballsing up a good day out, I won't bother travelling 170 miles each way.

 

[jackhandy]

And, just to avoid any speculation, No I won't be taking either of my 250 watt bikes - I'd hope I might just about have enough credits to be able to borrow something capable of dragging an old fart up that hill - unlike some, I suspect