How on earth does he get away with this?

soundwave

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but its not a motor bike it has peddles but its over the 250w limit like s class bikes.

the above and bomber are race class bikes like the m1

this is a electric motor bike.
 

craiggor

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Would posters on this section find it attractive to have a separate section headed 'ELECTRIC MOTORBIKES',there seems to be a lot of interest in these bikes and that would avoid all the discussions of them being pedelecs.
Russell may find it possible to include.
What do members think?
KudosDave
all these bikes are electric motorbikes/mopeds.If they where fitted with 250w motors they would be pedelecs.Yes to a electric motorbike section,but people need to learn the difference between motorbikes/mopeds and pedelecs.
 
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EddiePJ

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Would posters on this section find it attractive to have a separate section headed 'ELECTRIC MOTORBIKES',there seems to be a lot of interest in these bikes and that would avoid all the discussions of them being pedelecs.
Russell may find it possible to include.
What do members think?
KudosDave

Not me.

I love electric motorcycles, but that would be a forum deviation not in keeping with the philosophy of the site. Fine as a passing topic such as this, but not beyond that.


On topic - I know the rider in that video well as we live pretty close. We've had great fun trolling all the Strava users in our kneck of the woods. Our regular Sunday outing is to go out and find any KoM's we can snatch.
Other than intentionally alienating e-bikes even further from mainstream pedal cyclists, what is the point in that?
 
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Kudoscycles

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all these bikes are electric motorbikes/mopeds.If they where fitted with 250w motors they would be pedelecs.Yes to a electric motorbike section,but people need to learn the difference between motorbikes/mopeds and pedelecs.
They know the difference,I don't think anyone could be stupid enough to think that a 5kw motorbike is a bicycle!
But it does not suit them to acknowledge the difference,for that would be an admission that they also have to acknowledge the need to register,tax,insure,helmet etc.
At the moment these electric motorbikes don't really have a use,maybe new legislation will find a home for them.
KudosDave
 
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soundwave

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sound wave 1 hour ago
you are asking for it big time riding that on the road like a motor bike YOU HAVE NO Insurance to ride it on the road no number plate no lights indicators wing mirrors licence or tax and the wrong tyres for road use at that sort of speed why u on ur ass. if 50 flash you i suggest you make a run for it :)
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Everything Biker
1 hour ago
Asking for it? Don't think so... Riding it like a motorbike? With all due respect, I can tell you don't have a clue about it. I have insurance. You don't need indicators as long as you use hand signals, you don't need (as you call them) "wing mirrors" and as it's fully electric there would be no need for road tax. The only thing I agree with is your comment with regards to road tyres, I am going to be putting some on soon. If the police choose to stop me for no reason, or just out of curiosity, I will stop as that's the law and I haven't broken and laws in the first place! Don't put silly comments!
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sound wave
46 minutes ago
+Everything Biker uk limit is 250w 15.5 mph for a electric bikes over that its a motor bike, it can not be registered with the dvla it has no number plates ect read this http://www.pedelecs.co.uk/electric-bike-guides/uk-electric-bike-law/ https://www.gov.uk/electric-bike-rules im not having a go im just saying you risk losing the bike if you are pulled over. the bike will need to be type approved for uk roads at that power here http://www.dft.gov.uk/vca/vehicletype/type-approval-for-mo.asp
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Everything Biker
42 minutes ago
Correct! My bike is 250w, I have modified the rear hub to conform with uk law!


i tried lol
 

the_killjoy

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" I have insurance. "

Who are you insured with, what is it insured as and what is the cover?
 

craiggor

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" I have insurance. "

Who are you insured with, what is it insured as and what is the cover?
I think the post you are referring to was soundwave pretending to be everything biker.Is sound wave everything biker?who else who rides an illegal bike has insurance?
 

craiggor

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Can't see them on you tube.He must of taken them down.He has left mine telling him he was famous over here and his bike was illegal.
 

Fordulike

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I was just wondering what mysterious information is displayed on his bike's display, for 'everything biker' to feel the need to digitally cover up in the videos.... Speed perhaps.... Mmmmmmmmm
 

Andy_H

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What an interesting thread, just finished reading from start to finish, one odd thing for me about this guy is that he clearly states he has insurance (which he states in another video), but as he rides about 30mph on throttle only I would doubt any insurance would still be valid, so can't decide if he is just trying to fool people watching the video's or if he is just fooling himself.
 

Kudoscycles

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What amazes me is that he is passing police cars and not one decides to pull him over for at least a check. What is also concerning is that a 'mature 13 year old',hehe was asking whether he could handle one.
I suspect that he may be regretting all the interest he has created,certainly he wont be 'stealth',excuse the pun,for much longer.
As for reducing the power down to 250 watts,yeh......
KudosDave
 

turbo911

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having been involved in this active thread i have a change of heart concerning the killjoy riding around on his illegal stealth and posting videos on various sites, perhaps he should be arrested and locked up until he knows better or perhaps stoned in the street... i was out riding my stealth on sunday morning not bothering any one or anything when i rode near to a kiddies play area with barriers around it and spotted a young girl riding around on her electric quad i also noticed the no wheeled sign by the entrance then i suddenly thought of this thread and had to make a decision should i go and stop her illegal riding ?? forcibly if needed and demand she stop so she doesn't spoil things for others and electric quads /trikes get banded for ever in the uk, no i decided her dad (i presume ) had it under control they were both out having fun and harming no one... i wonder if she had insurance ?, i also asked myself if my daughter who's 22 had been playing in the park and got injured by the quad whether the dad would have any remorse.... corse not cut he ent boverd ...., also theres a well known company and real helpful guy who spends a fair bit of time on here who openly sells ebikes/pedlecs and openly advertises the illegal dongle tune up available, i was wondering if he gets bricks through his windows on a regular basis for encouraging illegal riding ??
 

turbo911

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You might also notice that he no longer openly does so.

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oh !!! but when he did he still knew it was illegal as for the riding by the kiddies LMFAO !!!! .... I'm not having a pop at anyone i,m voicing my opinion on a open forum and i appreciate you guys looking after your best interests i too own 2 genuine pedlecs i also own 2 dongles!! bought from the same shop i bought the pedlecs!!! i also ride a illegal stealth!! my wife rides a illegal bultaco we don't bother anyone and no one bothers us even on the very odd occasion when i go to the bike park infact the stealth attracts a lot of attention and yes i know there illegal but this is the uk not russia and at this time I'm happy and so is she to do so before this country changes for ever!!!!!
 

soundwave

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he still sells them but there not on the same page as the bikes any more, and he still fits them.
 

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