How i can increase max speed of my bike?

[Deleted member 4366]

Seeing as OP hasn't come back to this thread, we might as well carry it on.

I reckon more damage has been done to the ebike industry by all the guys (like Colin) highlighting the use of illegal bikes by writing to the press and everyone else than the guys actually using the illegal bikes.

 

[Ryan Yorke]

Crazymaster, Ryan, whatever you wish to call yourself,

Silly little man

 

[danielrlee]

I reckon more damage has been done to the ebike industry by all the guys (like Colin) highlighting the use of illegal bikes by writing to the press and everyone else than the guys actually using the illegal bikes.

The same thought had crossed my mind previously. It's often the case in life that fear of something is more damaging than the actual danger.

 

[Woosh]

I reckon more damage has been done to the ebike industry by all the guys (like Colin) highlighting the use of illegal bikes by writing to the press and everyone else than the guys actually using the illegal bikes.

sorry, I disagree.
Nobody stops you or anyone else to ride at over 25kph, the law only stops electric assistance above 25kph.
if you want to go faster, pedal a little more. That's even playing field for all cyclists who share the same facilities.

 

[mike killay]

Silly little man

Usual schoolmasterish tone.
Your sussed mate.

 

[Gubbins]

I was going to start a new thread with this but i think its pertinent to this subject..
http://dailym.ai/2FNhDxr

 

[RobF]

I was going to start a new thread with this but i think its pertinent to this subject..
http://dailym.ai/2FNhDxr

It isn't relevant.

Dangerous cycling is the action of the cyclist - you or I could cycle dangerously on a push bike at 10mph.

Going faster will generally increase the likelihood of a crash, although I think we have all accelerated in a traffic situation to reduce the likelihood.

Cycling quickly is not of itself anywhere near the legal definitiion of dangerous cycling.

 

[Gubbins]

It isn't relevant.

Dangerous cycling is the action of the cyclist - you or I could cycle dangerously on a push bike at 10mph.

Going faster will generally increase the likelihood of a crash, although I think we have all accelerated in a traffic situation to reduce the likelihood.

Cycling quickly is not of itself anywhere near the legal definitiion of dangerous cycling.

Perhaps not, but riding a bike that is powered to unsafe speeds has to be dangerous if only because of the extra damage such excess speed will cause. A fit cyclist that can go fast is also likely to be experienced and probably able to navigate the roads safely whereas someone like the OP with a bodged up bike zooming around London at higher speed that should be possible is an accident waiting to happen. Any rider on such a bike would surely fall into the category of dangerous cycling...

 

[KTM Bike Industries UK]

I reckon more damage has been done to the ebike industry by all the guys (like Colin) highlighting the use of illegal bikes by writing to the press and everyone else than the guys actually using the illegal bikes.

This is your opinion of course, and your entitled to it.

Although I'm not sure what damage you think has been done. This whole campaign and debate has been about preventing damage. No damage has been done yet, that I'm aware of? Or do you know of things eMTB's have been banned from?

I'd suggest your wrong also to think that wanting to keep eMTB legal is damaging. Not talking about it won't prevent the problem happening. A high profile accident at a trail centre of event is inevitable, its only a matter of time. All we're trying to do is prevent this being on an illegal one, or at least reduce the chances massively, to protect individuals who are bascially in most cases ignorant of the risks they are taking, and then the industry as a whole.

As the bike brands and motor brands have come together with a solution to tuning of eMTBs, this should minimise the risk and also show land owners, insurance companies and event organisors that it is possible to solve this issue, without simply banning all eBikes.

You'll see things being made more public when the 2019 bikes are launched.

As I've said all along, if you want to do something on the road, I think its pretty much personal risk, and personal punishment. My concern has always been about access for eMTB to land and events. Hopefully together we've solved this, and the push for all brands has made this happen.

 

[Wander]

My concern has always been about access for eMTB to land and events.

No it hasn't. Those of us that have been around long enough saw you develop this idea in order to justify your personal crusade.

 

[KTM Bike Industries UK]

No it hasn't. Those of us that have been around long enough saw you develop this idea in order to justify your personal crusade.

Its not me personally, its pretty much all brands that have had an involvement in the growth of MTB in the UK, and now see the growth and potential of eMTB.

It might be me with my head above the wall here.

What do you think my personal crusade is, if its not protecting access for eMTB?

There is a long list of brands and shops pushing for this in the UK, and even more in Germany.

 

[Wander]

What do you think my personal crusade is, if its not protecting access for eMTB,

You tell us. But the second thread you ever contributed to was all about knocking 50 Cycles.

Edit: here you go, couple of your posts from 2014:-

Also you're going to find that with big bike brands like us an Cube now selling volume of eBikes in the UK, we'll be pushing to make sure the guys who are selling bikes that are over powered are brought to the attention of the powers that be, so that we're all competing on a level legal playing field.

conversions aren't really in direct competition with us, so not a massive concern of ours. Although any bikes that are being ridden illegally on the roads do have a direct impact on the image and long term sustainability of the whole concept of eBikes in the UK.

That's how you originally were arguing, you only developed that protecting access for eMTB to land argument much later.

You also took that s-pedelec to the NEC & later came out with a weird justification that you only took it to illustrate to people what they couldn't have! Well why did you have a GBP price on it then?

No doubt you will shortly come out with your 'I haven't understood', 'that's a different argument' blah.

Col your style in all threads is about not addressing points raised with you but turning a thread around to further your own interests.

You've also peddled out that 'I was only asking a simple question' rubbish for years now, knowing full well how that is likely to make a thread develop.

Problem is you are so up on your high horse that you don't see it.

 

[oyster]

I was going to start a new thread with this but i think its pertinent to this subject..
http://dailym.ai/2FNhDxr

The Guardian has its report here:

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/mar/04/death-by-dangerous-cycling-offence-to-be-introduced-reports

I wonder whether we will end up in yet another unsatisfactory place? Yes, seems reasonable that causing death by dangerous cycling should be as serious as the same by driving. But I foresee future issues when someone causing death by scooter, tricycle, wheelchair, whatever else gets excluded because the legislation is framed so as to apply to bicycles only. Or some other "loophole".

The issue is that some action caused death - the person should have their actions questioned and, as appropriate, sanctions applied to them.

 

[KTM Bike Industries UK]

You tell us. But the second thread you ever contributed to was all about knocking 50 Cycles.

Edit here you go one of your posts from 2014:- That's how you originally were arguing, you only developed that protecting access for eMTB to land argument much later.

You also took that s-pedelec to the NEC WITH A PRICE ON IT & later came out with a weird justification that you only took it to illustrate to people what they couldn't have!

Col your style in all threads is about not addressing points raised with you but turning a thread around to further your own interests.

You've also peddled out that 'I was only asking a simple question' rubbish for years now, knowing full well how that is likely to make a thread develop.

Problem is you are so up on your high horse that you don't see it.

Wow, I don't remember having a pop at 50Cycles, if you can send me a link I'll have a look.

And yes, my arguement has evolved as my understanding of the law and the risks to the individual has improved. I think the fact my focus has shifted since 2014 reflects this and also reflects the rapid rise in eMTB as a genre from that point. I've come to agree that the chances of being caught on an illegal ebike on the road is very slim and the implications of an accident are likely to be felt by the individual, not the industry and other users, hence why it doesn't concern me really these days.

EDIT: just seen that you've added some links. I stand by both those points and would still say them today.

We didn't have a price on the sPedelec at the NEC because there has never been a UK RRP on them, ever. We took it to make a point, and that was a decision that was made when KTM sent it from Austria, it wasn't a later justification.

 

[Gubbins]

The I hate cyclists brigade don't live near me, nor do the light jumping idiots that ride bikes so I tend to think it's not as bad as it appears in the D.M.

 

[KTM Bike Industries UK]

The I hate cyclists brigade don't live near me, nor do the light jumping idiots that ride bikes so I tend to think it's not as bad as it appears in the D.M.

Is anything was bad as it appears in the DM?

 

[Gubbins]

Is anything was bad as it appears in the DM?

I like it's views on cycling and I enjoy reading through the readers comments most of which mention bikers not paying road tax.. in all the comments and responses I have read no one seems to offer the point that if there actually was a road tax a bike would be exempt due to its zero emissions.
I suppose it's the intelligence of D.M's readers!
And yes I am aware that I read it... ..(on line)

 

[Wander]

We didn't have a price on the sPedelec at the NEC because there has never been a UK RRP on them, ever. We took it to make a point, and that was a decision that was made when KTM sent it from Austria, it wasn't a later justification.

But you did have a GBP price on it, saw it with my own eyes!

 

[KTM Bike Industries UK]

But you did have a GBP price on it, saw it with my own eyes!

Well, I'm not aware of that... That bike has never been on any price list and we've never offered it for sale. It might have been that bikes were moved around so the price might have been for another bike. But I can promise you, as has been pointed out above... we make sPedelecs and we have had many opportunities to sell them, but we have never offered them for sale, and even when dealers have attempted to order them on the b2b website, their orders have been cancelled.

 

[Wander]

Well, I'm not aware of that...

Not true Col. Raised it with you back in 2015:-

Makes me wonder with all Col / KTM's postings how he justifies showing them at the NEC with UK prices displayed then.

You didn't deny it in your response nor did you say anything about bikes being moved around etc.