Hoping to increase driver passing distance at night, I've glued front and rear reflectors to my wing mirrors.

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Aha! Like my cheapo powerbank (which still works after being rained on for over two weeks, needed thorough drying out though), it probably contains cheap crappy Chinese cells of greatly exaggerated capacity. I changed my mind and ordered the headlight linked below instead, to solder to my battery - I have two "1800LM" headlights so far... + this "6000LM" = 9600 alleged lumens, if I find a way to fit all three. I would get a longer handlebar than my present 580mm, if I could be certain it wouldn't impede my bike's folding.



I say NO to dim and weak!


 
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FYI for anyone considering buying this 6000LM headlight - it only works at 12V! Not "12V to 80V" as described on Aliexpress! Bit of a bummer, because I now have to buy a step down converter :rolleyes:... I don't have any other 36V power supply other than my ebike battery, so I only found out after soldering everything together. I should have tested it using my ebike battery charger. Works fine at 12V.

Very irritating.

 

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FYI for anyone considering buying this 6000LM headlight - it only works at 12V! Not "12V to 80V" as described on Aliexpress! Bit of a bummer, because I now have to buy a step down converter :rolleyes:... I don't have any other 36V power supply other than my ebike battery, so I only found out after soldering everything together. I should have tested it using my ebike battery charger. Works fine at 12V.

Very irritating.

Can you get your money back as it is not as described?
 

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Can you get your money back as it is not as described?
The seller wanted me to send him video evidence. He said "The highest tester in my office is 30V", sent me a photo of it connected to his bench power supply. Disputed that it doesn't work at 36V. I told him that I'm not soldering this bloody light back onto my bike AGAIN, just to send him a video. I told him testing before sending products out is his job, not mine. Opening a Paypal case.
 

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I mean... why send me a video of it tested at 30V not 36V? Surely a big seller like that would have a power supply capable of 36V? After I had soldered this light on, and it didn't work, I tested continuity etc. of my soldering and it was fine (did have to run to Asda to get a new 9V PP3 for the multimeter, battery died partway through testing, didn't have enough juice for the continuity check, display faded away at that setting). That's when I cut it off the bike and connected it to a 12V power supply, and saw that it wasn't a dud after all. I've never had to claim a refund from AliExpress before. 2 out of my total of 3 purchases have not gone well. He's refused to refund. I've opened a Paypal case, let's see what happens.

Besides, the light featured in his video tested at 30V isn't necessarily the same light I was sent. The switch supplied with it doesn't look waterproof to me, using that thing is asking for trouble.
 

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Aaarrggghh they've frozen it, so I can't warn anyone about this. Lesson learned: Next time, I'll leave a review before demanding a refund! :mad:


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"6000 lumens" my arse! This case will take a coupe of weeks to resolve.


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I mean... why send me a video of it tested at 30V not 36V? Surely a big seller like that would have a power supply capable of 36V? After I had soldered this light on, and it didn't work, I tested continuity etc. of my soldering and it was fine (did have to run to Asda to get a new 9V PP3 for the multimeter, battery died partway through testing, didn't have enough juice for the continuity check, display faded away at that setting). That's when I cut it off the bike and connected it to a 12V power supply, and saw that it wasn't a dud after all. I've never had to claim a refund from AliExpress before. 2 out of my total of 3 purchases have not gone well. He's refused to refund. I've opened a Paypal case, let's see what happens.

Besides, the light featured in his video tested at 30V isn't necessarily the same light I was sent. The switch supplied with it doesn't look waterproof to me, using that thing is asking for trouble.
Aliexpress are very good with refunds, but the process is a bit weird. You go through several stages where you have to say you want the money refunded, then you get it.
 

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Aliexpress are very good with refunds, but the process is a bit weird. You go through several stages where you have to say you want the money refunded, then you get it.
I'm using Paypal to bypass AliExpress's weirdness. On AliExpress, it's impossible to request a refund using the button links, without uploading a video - I had to open a chat window with the seller to demand a refund. I have been unable to find a way to report this fraudulent listing... so I made a report and sent it using the "Report dangerous prohibited substances" or somesuch button. I'm not too fussed, it's less than £15 in total. I'll make this light red, to use on the back of my bike trailer via a step down DC converter. I'm annoyed at this seller for screwing about and wasting my time. Punishment refundity revenge will be mine! (possibly).
 
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I still want my revenge refund... I've connected the "2200LM" and "1800LM" lights on the left in series. The right hand side "1800LM" is in parallel. I'm hoping the "1800LM" far left will light up dark/insufficiently lit merry funster number plates overtaking further away - like that night - and get identifiable video recordings of those plates, as they pass by my right side - it can be angled even further to my right (your left).

"Train hard to fight easy": I've been practising my seatpost swings. I'm ready for my next encounter with those merry funsters, and their ilk... (very evil icon)


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My battery's BMS is limited to 22A. I have no idea how much current these lights are using (haven't measured them), but they haven't blown the inline 3A microblade fuse, therefore they must be using less than that. Despite this, to be prudent I have lowered the controller current limit from 19A to 18A. Levels 7, 8 and 9 are for heavy hill hauling, and faster uphill getaways.


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My battery's BMS is limited to 22A. I have no idea how much current these lights are using (haven't measured them), but they haven't blown the inline 3A microblade fuse, therefore they must be using less than that. Despite this, to be prudent I have lowered the controller current limit from 19A to 18A. Levels 7, 8 and 9 are for heavy hill hauling, and faster uphill getaways.


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How does the current adjustment work?Do you have to dip into an app and scroll through a lot of menus?

I'd like to have a big red button on the handlebars, marked "BOOST", ready for emergencies :D
 

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I'd like to have a big red button on the handlebars, marked "BOOST", ready for emergencies :D
I'll shout "BOOST!" for level 7, "BOOST! BOOOST!" when engaging level 8 and "BOOST! BOOOST! BOOOOST! AAAARRRGGGHHHH! DIE MERRY FUNSTERS DIE!!!" at level 9.


How does the current adjustment work?Do you have to dip into an app and scroll through a lot of menus?
Bafang's communication protocol for their BBSXX(X) series was cracked some years ago. The scope of the settings available in the configurators is quite wide. Toseven's in-display similar-looking version doesn't appear to have as many options. The Bafang configurators patch values, rather than overwrite firmware wholesale:



I usually use the Windows program but:

https://www.pedelecs.co.uk/forum/threads/bafang-programming-cables-seem-short-lived.45724/


It was bloody awful as delivered, I almost sent the damn thing back to the Amazon seller. Firmware fiddles make for a very well behaved Bafang BBS01B, which for me at least is an absolute joy to ride. Effortless too - we all know I hate to make an effort.
 
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I'm tempted to close the Paypal case against this AliExpress seller, but whether I do or don't, he'll continue to lie about this product. Looking at his store, his other customers are likely mostly motorcyclists with 12V or 24V systems, who wouldn't experience this issue of this light not working at 36V, but they might have complained about the lumen lie. I'm still annoyed at my time being wasted, so may follow through with the Paypal case.
 
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I'm using Paypal to bypass AliExpress's weirdness. On AliExpress, it's impossible to request a refund using the button links, without uploading a video - I had to open a chat window with the seller to demand a refund. I have been unable to find a way to report this fraudulent listing... so I made a report and sent it using the "Report dangerous prohibited substances" or somesuch button. I'm not too fussed, it's less than £15 in total. I'll make this light red, to use on the back of my bike trailer via a step down DC converter. I'm annoyed at this seller for screwing about and wasting my time. Punishment refundity revenge will be mine! (possibly).
I don't know what you're doing, but it was simpler than that when I did it a couple of months back. The weirdness was just the repetitiveness of the process. I had to do the same thing three times, each time after the seller oftered me a zero refund. After the third one, Aliexpress gave me the money back.
 

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I don't know what you're doing, but it was simpler than that when I did it a couple of months back. The weirdness was just the repetitiveness of the process. I had to do the same thing three times, each time after the seller oftered me a zero refund. After the third one, Aliexpress gave me the money back.
They tried to grind you down, but you persisted beyond their wildest expectations to claim your prize. I don't work for the seller. There's no way I'm making and uploading a video, that seller has wasted enough of my time. I had a chat with the seller, and warned him that I would open a Paypal case if he didn't give me back my money. I opened a case as soon as he refused to refund me, uploaded the transcript, photos of the box, and linked his fraudulent listing. Paypal hasn't failed me yet.
 

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Paypal might fail me - I've read reports saying Paypal simply close the case against AliExpress after a time. If they do that, I'll be writing to the FCA.

After the seller kept copy/pasting the same reply over and over, then blocking me lol... I had a long chat with a AE rep last night. She wanted a screenshot of the lack of option to upload evidence in any form other than video, when trying to open a dispute. I said I couldn't do that, because they had locked the order. She said the order was locked because I had opened a case at Paypal. I had opened a case at Paypal because the AE site insisted that only video proof could be uploaded. She told me to close the Paypal case, said that I should have confirmed delivery of the item. I said I wouldn't that, because then there's no hope at all of ever get my money back, because their website insisted on video to open a dispute. On and on... I think it's a dark pattern, and only video upload would be accepted (no photo option) because I hadn't confirmed delivery. Evri sent me an email confirming delievery lol. I pointed out that the only browser on Windows 7 capable of viewing and facilitating the use of AliExpress was Vivaldi... not Firefox, Chrome or Opera. Told them they could be helping their sellers to swindle a larger customer base than they do now, with wider browser support. If that was a chat with a ebay rep, they would have opened a dispute with the seller and I'd have been refunded by now. The AE rep said she didn't have access to that function. She eventually got sick of me, tried to play for time, kept telling me to remain silent and hold the line... for the chat window to timeout... but because I have a tri-monitor setup I spotted it in time. I requested the issue be escalated higher up the food chain. She wanted my email address, I said she already had it, she said my email address was obscured in her view of the system. A bigger shark may or may not get in touch by email "within 2 working days". Fsck AliExpress. :mad:

I'm not fussed about a refund, just interested in how this goes. Out of a total of 4 orders on AliExpress, 3 have gone south. AliExpress is for sellers.
 
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Because I don't have a 36V power supply other than my battery to test future lights with, prior to soldering to my bike battery... I ordered this from a ebay seller with "UK stock". But it seems Yodel is waiting for it to be sent from China :rolleyes:

For a tenner, the cheapest variable power supply (3 to 36v, 2A)I've seen on ebay...