Help! Frame battery without bottle cage screw holes

Woosh

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Thanks for posting the pictures. You can install the battery on the main tube or the seat tube but I wouldn't recommend either. Best solution is to replace the rack and install a rack battery.
 

Nealh

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Wolf tooth do this, I have not used any of these:


Giant also do this

The B rad still needs riv nuts to hold a battery.
 

saneagle

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You can still fit ot on the frame, but you need to make a support for it, which is pretty easy. Put the riv-nuts in first, then wrap the frame in cling-film. Also, wrap the battery mount in cling-film. Slap a few layers of fibreglass on the frame, then screw down the battery support to squish it right down before it sets. Add in a load more pieces underneath to make a fillet parallel with the sides of the frame. When it's all set, use a saw and/or angle grinder and/or sandpaper to make it nice and neat. You can see how I did it here on my Dahon ten years ago:

 
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guerney

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You can still fit ot on the frame, but you need to make a support for it, which is pretty easy. Put the riv-nuts in first, then wrap the frame in cling-film. Also, wrap the battery mount in cling-film. Slap a few layers of fibreglass on the frame, then screw down the battery support to squish it right down before it sets. Add in a load more pieces underneath to make a fillet parallel with the sides of the frame. When it's all set, use a saw and/or angle grinder and/or sandpaper to make it nice and neat. You can see how I did it here on my Dahon ten years ago:

That's a brilliant thread and conversion, and one I hadn't seen. Do you still use that Jetstream? Converting my Dahon Espresso (a £72 ebay "bargain" bought on ebay a few weeks ago, alumunium frame, front steel fork, renovations ongoing) with a rear hub motor looks like a lot of work... if anything, I may go with a simpler front hub motor build for that one. The BBS01B has ruined my fitness, so I probably will very likely leave the Espresso unelectrified, get some actual exercise, because it's a certainty I will use any electrical assistance to the legally allowable max!


 

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That's a brilliant thread and conversion, and one I hadn't seen. Do you still use that Jetstream? Converting my Dahon Espresso (a £72 ebay "bargain" bought on ebay a few weeks ago, alumunium frame, front steel fork, renovations ongoing) with a rear hub motor looks like a lot of work... if anything, I may go with a simpler front hub motor build for that one. The BBS01B has ruined my fitness, so I probably will very likely leave the Espresso unelectrified, get some actual exercise, because it's a certainty I will use any electrical assistance to the legally allowable max!


No, I converted it back and sold it about 4 years ago. It worked best at 44v (12S) with an AKM 100 cassette motor. I did a few long rides, but then it got relegated to only getting used when I had my car serviced. Now I have a van, so can use a full-size bike.
 
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Waspy

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On the subject of Rivnuts, I used RJ The Bike Guy's cheap method that requires no expensive Rivnut tool.
 

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On the subject of Rivnuts, I used RJ The Bike Guy's cheap method that requires no expensive Rivnut tool.
That's not a good way. It can work, but more times than not, the riv-nut starts turning with the screw, and if the rivet has already started to form, you can end up with that lot stuck in the hole and a very tricky procedure to get it out. Also, there's nothing holding the riv-nut down, so it can lift a bit and look very ugly when done. The two strips of metal with holes in is much better, as it doesn't involve turning the riv-nut, and it holds the riv-nut down while forming the rivet.
 
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Waspy

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That's not a good way. It can work, but more times than not, the riv-nut starts turning with the screw, and if the rivet has already started to form, you can end up with that lot stuck in the hole and a very tricky procedure to get it out. Also, there's nothing holding the riv-nut down, so it can lift a bit and look very ugly when done. The two strips of metal with holes in is much better, as it doesn't involve turning the riv-nut, and it holds the riv-nut down while forming the rivet.
Fair enough, I'll bookmark this thread for the future. Thanks.
 

pettie

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Right, here's a picture of the bike. The frame is very elliptical, which might be why Dawes didn't provide screw holes.

Thanks for the suggestions of alternatives. The straps would probably hold a bottle & holder in place, but may not be beefy enough for a heavy battery.
Did you find a solution? I've got the sane bike I want to convert, thanks
 

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