No, he doesn't. However, it's hardly surprising that someone might think that, when you see the utter idiocy displayed by some riders.
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I also assume the cycling stop box is for cars to use . Never seen it enforced yet ?
What I also find strange is how the motor vehicle driver cannot wait 10 secs to safely pass .
The fact I have 3 cars and 3 motor bikes does not stop me getting abuse about not paying road tax.
Sadly cyclists will still lose their lives , and the blonde chimp from London blames the cyclist without full facts.
What I also find strange is how the motor vehicle driver cannot wait 10 secs to safely pass .
The fact I have 3 cars and 3 motor bikes does not stop me getting abuse about not paying road tax.
Sadly cyclists will still lose their lives , and the blonde chimp from London blames the cyclist without full facts.
I assume the "blonde chimp" reference is to Boris Johnson? I'm certainly no fan of his and don't think him fitted for high office, but he is a very regular London cyclist and has been for many years. So I think he probably has the same relevant facts as any other London cyclist.
Like me and the majority of other cyclists, his years of London cycling haven't seriously injured or killed him, showing clearly that these accidents are under the control of the cyclist. They are avoidable and that's why I constantly post on the subject.
Of course drivers can very often be rightly criticised, but criticising drivers won't save any cyclist's life. Only cyclists themselves can do that by avoiding well known high risks. Hence my concentration on the cyclists, to try to save their lives.
Like me and the majority of other cyclists, his years of London cycling haven't seriously injured or killed him, showing clearly that these accidents are under the control of the cyclist. They are avoidable and that's why I constantly post on the subject.
Of course drivers can very often be rightly criticised, but criticising drivers won't save any cyclist's life. Only cyclists themselves can do that by avoiding well known high risks. Hence my concentration on the cyclists, to try to save their lives.
London Cycling Campaign | Mayor's Cycle SuperHighway 2 extension the first step towards Going Dutch for London cyclists. Segregated bike path made by taking a lane off the road each way. A good token, but obviously too little, too late! Oh Boris, pls feel free to spout a quip in Latin as you pass downed riders.
#Idea: How about a White Ghost Bike Badge, with funds to families of the fallen...... Mikey
#Idea: How about a White Ghost Bike Badge, with funds to families of the fallen...... Mikey
Still just as dangerous Mike, the accidents on the superhighways occur at the left turns, and they can't be segregated by kerbs of course! Vehicles will still left turn across cyclist's paths and cyclists who don't see that about to occur will still be run over.
This separation only works when going completely Dutch, by giving the bikes priority at junctions, vehicles having to wait for them. So this separation as it stands is just a waste of money and a cause of unnecessary motor vehicle traffic jams.
Meanwhile I propose a new name, Cycling Superhypeways.
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This is a nice idea but I thought we would have quad bikes on them, then I saw the motor bikes.
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Here is how tfl have explained them.
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As a cyclist you MUST stop inside the box or else a £50 fine.
As a motorist you should stop before the 1st line when approaching a red light but MUST stop before the 2nd line(in the box) if the light changes to amber when approaching. Most traffic is bumper to bumper so it's always a case of stopping as the lights change to amber and so always optional, what a waste of paint.
Perhaps there should be two sets of lights.
Move the current lights back to the start of the box then install cyclist lights at the end of the box.
30 second delay between the two on green.
They had a lot of paint left over from Con party conference, hence Blue lanes. Then another lot after Olympics, hence green boxes, err, etc 
And remember you are *responsible* for your own *safety*, so stop or go whenever & wherever necessary to stay out from under a vehicle ;-)
Illegitimi non carborundum ab absentia..e&oe. Mikey
And remember you are *responsible* for your own *safety*, so stop or go whenever & wherever necessary to stay out from under a vehicle ;-)
Illegitimi non carborundum ab absentia..e&oe. Mikey
Hi....I watched a video yesterday ...a bus / cyclist / car accident, something about clipped a mirror.
...unfortunately cannot find it again to re-watch it for confirmation....but...
The way that I "read" the accident was that the bus driver, in the full knowledge he was going to stop, overtook the cyclist and stopped in front of him, a terrible bit of driving.
I would never overtake another road user and stop in front of him, no excuse but motorists do it all the time to cyclists, the cyclist travelling at 20mph had little choice but to pull out to overtake the bus.
The car driver should have seen the traffic island from 200 yards away and positioned himself in the centre of the lane, not waited until he was on top of the island before swerving in to avoid it and causing the cyclist to come off his bike.
If the car driver had read the road properly and been positioned in the lane correctly the accident would never have happened.
...unfortunately cannot find it again to re-watch it for confirmation....but...
The way that I "read" the accident was that the bus driver, in the full knowledge he was going to stop, overtook the cyclist and stopped in front of him, a terrible bit of driving.
I would never overtake another road user and stop in front of him, no excuse but motorists do it all the time to cyclists, the cyclist travelling at 20mph had little choice but to pull out to overtake the bus.
The car driver should have seen the traffic island from 200 yards away and positioned himself in the centre of the lane, not waited until he was on top of the island before swerving in to avoid it and causing the cyclist to come off his bike.
If the car driver had read the road properly and been positioned in the lane correctly the accident would never have happened.
do you mean this one?
Here is one, in the cycle path... no wait he was alongside a bus and crashed into a mirror all by himself...
it looks to me like his handlebars got caught by the mirror, causing the front wheel to veer to the right.
I didn't think he had much time to brake.
It could be the car's driver seeing him slowed down, causing the accident or wanting to turn right, swung to the left, blocking the cyclist.
The bus seemed going too fast though.
On second thought, I blame the car driver.
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Sorry... the bus driver did not overtake the cyclist and stop but I think that the car driver did swerve in to avoid the traffic island...what other reason for turning to his left ?
Probably never know the truth of it but there is too much aggressive driving. Instead of easing off the accelerator when approaching a green TL, motorists will put their foot down to ensure they get through before the lights change, my opinion is, that if you miss one green light you catch the next.
....It all evens out
Probably never know the truth of it but there is too much aggressive driving. Instead of easing off the accelerator when approaching a green TL, motorists will put their foot down to ensure they get through before the lights change, my opinion is, that if you miss one green light you catch the next.
....It all evens out
Frankly you amaze me!
The cyclist should not have tried to share the width of a lane with a car. He should be either in front or behind a motor vehicle in the lane. A driver is entitled to use the width of a lane he is in and not have to cater for a cyclist or anyone attempting to occupy some of it's width.
If a cyclist or motorcyclist does decide to filter through on lanes alongside vehicles using them, the avoidance responsibility is entirely theirs and not ever in any way a driver's duty.
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After watching it several times, I think I've got it all figured now. See if you agree.
The cyclist put himself in a precarious position. Filtering is never without risks. The car driver turned a bit to the left even after he had passed the curb, which wasn't necessary. The cyclist's brake lever hits the mirror, which stops his front wheel, so he goes straight over the handlebars. I think it's a "racing incident" as far as the cyclist's concerned.
The cyclist put himself in a precarious position. Filtering is never without risks. The car driver turned a bit to the left even after he had passed the curb, which wasn't necessary. The cyclist's brake lever hits the mirror, which stops his front wheel, so he goes straight over the handlebars. I think it's a "racing incident" as far as the cyclist's concerned.
I've watched it lots of times now. The car appears to move slightly left because of the van which is turning right, it's not because of the kerb. Speaking as a cyclist, motorcyclist & car driver, I'd say, it's 100% the cyclist's fault. He put himself in a position where he had no escape route if things went wrong, which they did.
Of course the cyclist is a fool to put himself in that situation and shows little road sense. There was no advantage to try to overtake the bus and he would have been better to have stayed back as the motorcycle did. The bus is going at a reasonable lick and will stop soon enough. But the "accident" is not so black and white is it? The Golf is in a lane (there are two lanes right?) where traffic turns right and blocks your lane - a common scenario in most cities. There is a van turning right so his path will be blocked. His choice is to try and filter into the inside lane by checking his near side mirror for it to be clear and move over or wait for the lane to become clear. It looks like he starts to indicate (or he might be braking not sure) so I guess that his intention quite early on is to move into the near side lane. But the van looks like he will make the turn and clear the lane, he doesn't quite but the car driver will be ok if he "steals" a bit of the near side lane. That is exactly what he does but he has had a cyclist in his mirror for about 6 seconds and so clearly isn't looking properly and takes the stupid cyclist out. Of course if that had been another vehicle in the inside lane, naturally over to the right hand side of the lane due to the cycle lane before hand, the outcome would have been different and more expensive (who do you think the insurance company would have sided with?).
But would such a vehicle be overtaking on the left, which was what the cyclist is doing? If such a hypothetical vehicle was overtaking on the left, their insurance claim status would be questionable to say the least. Of course left hand overtaking of vehicles going straight ahead in London streets is routine, but that doesn't make it right or legal.
Personally, I'd suggest the cyclist was going to pass the bus, come hell or high water, Otherwise, why would he have overtaken the motorcycle?
Reading witness statements by all those who've commented here would be interesting - Several conflicting descriptions of what actually occurred... And we've all had the advantage of studying & restudying the video.
Reading witness statements by all those who've commented here would be interesting - Several conflicting descriptions of what actually occurred... And we've all had the advantage of studying & restudying the video.
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So if the timing had been different and the Golf had clipped the bus then the buses insurance company would have paid for the damage? Just to be clear as I don't think it would even go knock for knock (although that is always a possibility these days especially without video evidence). The under-taking bit is a bit of a red herring isn't it?
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