Eligible Electric Bike Manufacturers and Suppliers Should Have 8 Features

The author collected advice from experienced pedelec wholesales and agents and wrote the article:

https://www.fwheel.cc/eligible-electric-bike-manufacturers-and-suppliers/

Pedelecs like that silly little thing are scarcely worth comment.

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Meanwhile, laws & traffic regulations also encourages safe speed and little bike, especially in Europe. China follows the trend and carries a new E bike law recently which only allow low speed and low voltage bikes with pedals. It's lucky to see the big bikes are dying out day after day.

China has adopted our law which has for many years restricted assist speed to 25 kph and kept voltages low.

But you can forget little bikes like that one, we've had them for years and they have only a tiny part of the market.. They're not what is wanted by most people who prefer full size pedelecs.

The reasons are simple. They are ergonomically better for the human body, they are much more efficient in consequence, they are much more comfortable and stable on varying road surfaces, they have more flexibility in design, they have a far wider range of capabilities for carrying and towing people and goods.

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China has adopted our law which has for many years restricted assist speed to 25 kph and kept voltages low.

 

But you can forget little bikes like that one, we've had them for years and they have only a tiny part of the market.. They're not what is wanted by most people who prefer full size pedelecs.

 

The reasons are simple. They are ergonomically better for the human body, they are much more efficient in consequence, they are much more comfortable and stable on varying road surfaces, they have more flexibility in design, they have a far wider range of capabilities for carrying and towing people and goods.

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Therefore, people should ride on horse because most people ride on horse in 1900s and definitely prefer its gas free design.

You haven't tried it but say it's uncomfortable, is it convincing? The design with inflatable tires, low frame body, broad soft seat are even more comfortable to ride. And city commuting are mainly on flat road. At the same time, most people riding it are the middle class not carrying so many goods and cargos. So why should we over equip it with ridiculously huge wheels?

Edited March 15, 20197 yr by jessejin

You haven't tried it but say it's uncomfortable, is it convincing?

turn off the electrics and ride your bike for a mile, you'll see how clumsy your bike is without the throttle.

as I said, take away their battery. See how long they want to ride the e-bikes.

In Europe, we make the bikes first, then we see how we can flatten the hills next, not the other way round.

"And city commuting are mainly on flat road"

You should come and cycle my commute. Pot holes galore. A smooth route would be great, but I know the council here are not prioritising fixing potholes. Only the really deep ones that result in compensation claim from drivers.

as I said, take away their battery. See how long they want to ride the e-bikes.

In Europe, we make the bikes first, then we see how we can flatten the hills next, not the other way round.

That's not the concept of those busy people in city commuting, the only thing they care is arriving the office comfortably, elegantly(not sweaty) and on time. What you care is the montains & hills, while what we or other busy people in city care is the efficient commuting. Lightweight portable folding tiny DYU is more than enough for that.

The point we concentrate on is different.

Lightweight portable folding tiny DYU is more than enough for that.

How would you compare your e-bike with this one, designed for cities:

http://wooshbikes.co.uk/2014/gallego/gallego9.jpg

or this one:

http://wooshbikes.co.uk/2019/folding.jpg

or this one:

"You should come and cycle my commute. Pot holes galore. A smooth route ... "

I was wondering why European road is even not better than Shenzhen from a developing country, we barely see potholes like following one.

Your road?

This is the road in our city:

"How would you compare your e-bike with this one, designed for cities: ..." First impression: Expensive as £769, DYU D3 is only £300. Second, its design is not stylish.

We had a similar bike like yours but here is what our agents said: "It need guts to ride it on road, ugly."

DYU D3 is only £300.

you need to add to that price:

- import duty

- anti dumping duty

- anti subsidy duty (countervailing duty)

- VAT

- guarantee

- support

- delivery

- preparation

- dealers margin

- marketing cost (eg amazon, ebay, FB, google etc)

You need to see that distribution costs are cheap in Europe. From the USD FOB price to GBP retail price, it's mostly taxes, not profit margin.

If you look into the making of an FOB price, there is very little spent on product design and yet, that's the key factor in a sale. People buy the design first and pay for the components next.

I take a Chinese design and change the components to suit British customers.

When you add them all up, the DYU D3 market price would be at most $500-$600. Still cheap but allow the wholesalers to make money. That's why DYU got resellers all over Europe

let me do the math for you:

bike + delivery: $490 (source: Aliexpress)

Anti-dumping duty: 73.4%, if you are on the list of cooperating companies: 24.2% + 9.2% countervailing duty.

For the benefit of doubt, I use the lower tariffs, 24.2% + 9.2%.

countervailing duty: $46

anti-dumping duty: $121

C79 form: $15

import duty (6%): $30

Total ex VAT: $687, for VAT purpose, $ rate is 1.25 in 1 GBP: Ex VAT value: £549.60

VAT: £109.92

Total delivered: £659.52

There is no arrangement for setting up, support and guarantee within the guarantee period and beyond.

That's before any dealer margin is added.

You haven't tried it but say it's uncomfortable, is it convincing?

Thats's amusing. I was riding bikes from 1946, in the trade fitting them with motors from 1950 on and have ridden every style and size of bicycle and pedelec there has been, both electric and petrol powered.

There is nothing new about your little pedelec, it's all been done before, often very much better as Woosh has illustrated.

However, send it here and watch it flop in the market while normal size pedelecs continue to go from strength to strength.

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That's not the concept of those busy people in city commuting, the only thing they care is arriving the office comfortably, elegantly(not sweaty) and on time. What you care is the montains & hills, while what we or other busy people in city care is the efficient commuting. Lightweight portable folding tiny DYU is more than enough for that.

The point we concentrate on is different.

That may be, but what we care about is where we ride, which even in commuting all too often contains hills which we ride up.

Your post reminds me of what Wai Won Ching once said to me:

"Chinese cyclists don't pedal up hills, they get off and walk up them".

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Please tell me your thought on it so that I could reply with professional experience on pedelecs

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