E-scooters 'are five times safer than bikes' - Study by The Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents

[guerney]

I'm having major difficulties believing this but it IS a study by The Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents

"five times lower than bicycles with 3.33 collisions per million miles travelled and nine times lower than the figure of 5.88 for motorcycles."

E-scooters five times safer than bicycles, according to new study from RoSPA

The Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents (RoSPA) has published a new study on the safety of e-scooters, which found that e-scooters are significantly less risky than many other forms of transport on Britain’s roads. The report recorded an incident rate of 0.66 collisions for every...

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[guerney]

One down, 750,000 illegal electric scooters to go:

Man drove electric scooter without 'L' plates, court told

A MAN from Newtown has been fined after he rode an electric scooter without 'L' plates or insurance.

www.countytimes.co.uk

He was riding one of these:

Mi Global Home

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[oyster]

I'm having major difficulties believing this but it IS a study by The Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents

"five times lower than bicycles with 3.33 collisions per million miles travelled and nine times lower than the figure of 5.88 for motorcycles."

E-scooters five times safer than bicycles, according to new study from RoSPA

The Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents (RoSPA) has published a new study on the safety of e-scooters, which found that e-scooters are significantly less risky than many other forms of transport on Britain’s roads. The report recorded an incident rate of 0.66 collisions for every...

ciltuk.org.uk

Of the incidents that did occur on e-scooters, figures showed that most of them (94 per cent) took place in local authority areas that were not operating an e-scooter trial as opposed to areas with shared e-scooters available, further highlighting that so far, the UK’s shared e-scooter trials have proven to be remarkably safe.

If the proportion of local authorities operating trials is less than 6%, is this positive?

(By all means convert to populations in the LAs operating trials or any other reasonably rational approach.)

 

[StuartsProjects]

I'm having major difficulties believing this but it IS a study by The Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents

Do they have anyone named 'Boris' working at ROSPA ?

 

[guerney]

The timing does seem suspicious, given the Queen's Speech is 3 days away...

More detail:

https://www.rospa.com/getmedia/f29815f4-53e3-40fe-9459-db293df2fd4b/RoSPA-UK-eScooter-Report-Summary-v6-250422.pdf

 

[guerney]

Another e-scooter fire destroys a house:

Fire service sends urgent plea after onlookers blocked response to major blaze caused by e-scooter

PEOPLE are being urged to stay clear of incidents after crews tackling a major house fire in Basingstoke were blocked by the public this afternoon.

www.basingstokegazette.co.uk

 

[StuartsProjects]

"The report recorded an incident rate of 0.66 collisions for every million miles travelled on an e-scooter – five times lower than bicycles with 3.33 collisions per million miles travelled and nine times lower than the figure of 5.88 for motorcycles"

So the rate of collisions of Motorcycles is 9 times what it is for eScooters ??????

Sounds not right to me.

 

[guerney]

Someone has been bribed lobbied by Neuron Mobility? Maybe we should crowdfund for bribery lobbying funds for changes we'd like to see in pedelec law, such as legalising throttles up to 15.5mph?

E-scooters five times safer for riders than bicycles, claims RoSPA study

Research from accident prevention charity also finds that risk to pedestrians is lower than is often assumed

road.cc

 

[StuartsProjects]

The timing does seem suspicious, given the Queen's Speech is 3 days away...

More detail:

https://www.rospa.com/getmedia/f29815f4-53e3-40fe-9459-db293df2fd4b/RoSPA-UK-eScooter-Report-Summary-v6-250422.pdf

So per million miles travelled, there is a crash rate of 1.52 for buses, but only 0.66 for eScooters ?

So the average person would need to travel 1.5million miles on an escooter before they had a 'crash'

Really ???

 

[guerney]

If the proportion of local authorities operating trials is less than 6%, is this positive?

(By all means convert to populations in the LAs operating trials or any other reasonably rational approach.)

I had no idea so many Councils were trialling e-scooters... Grant Schwepps has been bought!

Where are the UK's e-scooter trials? - Zag Daily

Zag's heat-map of the UK's shared e-scooter trials, by go-live date.

zagdaily.com

1	Middlesbrough	Ginger	13 July 2020
2	Milton Keynes	Spin	22 August 2020
3	Hartlepool	Ginger	24 August 2020
4	Redcar	Ginger	24 August 2020
5	Milton Keynes	Lime	26 August 2020
6	Northampton	Voi	3 September 2020
7	Birmingham	Voi	10 September 2020
8	Coventry	Voi	10 September 2020
9	Stafford	Ginger	15 September 2020
10	Milton Keynes	Ginger	16 September 2020
11	Newcastle-under-Lyme	Zwings	16 September 2020
12	Norwich	Beryl	21 September 2020
13	Cheltenham	Zwings	30 September 2020
14	Redditch	Bird	1 October 2020
15	Liverpool	Voi	6 October 2020
16	Gloucester	Zwings	8 October 2020
17	Cambridge	Voi	15 October 2020
18	Slough	Neuron	16 October 2020
19	York	Tier	20 October 2020
20	Yeovil	Zwings	22 October 2020
21	Salford	Lime	26 October 2020
22	Nottingham	Wind	27 October 2020
23	Bath	Voi	29 October 2020
24	Bristol	Voi	29 October 2020
25	Taunton	Zipp	30 October 2020
26	Aylesbury	Zipp	16 November 2020
27	High Wycombe	Zipp	18 November 2020
28	Derby (LT)	Wind	25 November 2020
29	Isle of Wight	Beryl	26 November 2020
30	Basildon	Spin	7 December 2020
31	West Bromwich	Voi	8 December 2020
32	Kettering	Voi	10 December 2020
33	University of Warwick	Voi	17 December 2020
34	Chester	Ginger	21 December 2020
35	Scunthorpe	Ginger	23 December 2020
36	Bristol and Bath (LT)	Voi	8 January 2021
37	Bournemouth	Beryl	25 January 2021
38	Chelmsford	Spin	1 February 2021
39	Colchester	Spin	16 February 2021
40	Newcastle	Neuron	16 February 2021
41	Oxford	Voi	18 February 2021
42	Corby	Voi	26 February 2021
43	Wellingborough	Voi	2 March 2021
44	Rushden & Higham Ferrers	Voi	2 March 2021
45	Clacton	Spin	2 March 2021
46	Portsmouth	Voi	16 March 2021
47	Southampton	Voi	18 March 2021
48	Crewkerne	Zwings	25 March 2021
49	Chard	Zwings	25 March 2021
50	Canterbury	Bird	29 March 2021
51	Brentwood (LT)	Spin	29 March 2021
52	Whitehaven	Ginger	29 March 2021
53	Braintree (LT)	Spin	30 March 2021
54	Great Yarmouth	Ginger	30 March 2021
55	Sunderland	Neuron	31 March 2021
56	Rochdale	Lime	1 April 2021
57	Barnstaple (LT)	Voi	19 April 2021

 

[I893469365902345609348566]

So per million miles travelled, there is a crash rate of 1.52 for buses, but only 0.66 for eScooters ?

So the average person would need to travel 1.5million miles on an escooter before they had a 'crash'

Really ???

I was lucky to see this then! He'll be fine for the remaining 1,499,999.998 miles

 

[matthewslack]

So per million miles travelled, there is a crash rate of 1.52 for buses, but only 0.66 for eScooters ?

So the average person would need to travel 1.5million miles on an escooter before they had a 'crash'

Really ???

Before they had an incident that got officially recorded as an accident. None of my few incidents have ever been officially recorded.

My recent 900 mile trip, over 12 days of riding, included on average one near miss per day bad enough to report had I had cameras, so one for every 75 miles, or 13,333 per million miles.

Lies, damned lies, and recording systems blind to the majority of relevant events...

 

[I893469365902345609348566]

Before they had an incident that got officially recorded as an accident. None of my few incidents have ever been officially recorded.

Mine neither... apart from the badger collision, which I believe is rarer than these apparently 1 for every 1.5 million mile e-scooter collisions... but I can't be sure, because as far as I know, nobody is collecting stats on this highly injurious type of collision with badgers! (BTW I can now reach all guitar strings )

 

[StuartsProjects]

So per million miles travelled, there is a crash rate of 1.52 for buses, but only 0.66 for eScooters ?
So the average person would need to travel 1.5million miles on an escooter before they had a 'crash'

And to pick that apart;

If you used and eScooter for 365days a year, for 40 years, and you did only 100miles a day (???) you would expect to have just one 'crash' in that period ?

There is something I do not understand here, maybe I am just confused ........

 

[guerney]

Sometime after 10th May, they'll be legal on their way to a ram raid?

Four teens arrested after scooter used to try smash into B&M

Three girls, all aged 13, and a 15-year-old boy have been arrested on suspicion of attempted burglary with police slamming the 'mindless behaviour'

www.chroniclelive.co.uk

...actually, it might not have been electric.

 

[PC2017]

Dare I say misinformation, indeed, how many "millions" of mile traversed on a bike compared to that of an escooter.

 

[guerney]

I expect the government to announce strict unenforceable standards for private e-scooters, to which many can't be adapted to conform, and announce major expansion of rental schemes, as they've been paid to do by lobbyists. And because ebikes are apparently so unsafe in comparison, maybe those same companies are even now considering pulling the same set of tricks on pedelecs, at some point in the future?

 

[oyster]

Another e-scooter fire destroys a house:

Fire service sends urgent plea after onlookers blocked response to major blaze caused by e-scooter

PEOPLE are being urged to stay clear of incidents after crews tackling a major house fire in Basingstoke were blocked by the public this afternoon.

www.basingstokegazette.co.uk

I'd like to see something done regarding genuinely spontaneous battery fires. You could imagine a mandatory insurance being required which might incentivise sellers to reduce the danger.

Obviously, people buying from overseas make that difficult but leaving things as they are is unacceptable.

 

[guerney]

There is no way that the Police can seize 750,000 illegal private e-scooters! And most will remain illegal I expect, after legal e-scooters are somewhat defined in 3 days... unless the government haven't been bribed by e-scooter rental lobbyists to (coincidentally) define legal e-scooters exclusively to the specifications which rental e-scooter companies currently offer.

I see kids riding the things all the time

Kids on electric scooters seen travelling wrong way up dual carriageway

A dashcam image has been shared by a driver in the hope their parents will take action

www.walesonline.co.uk

 

[guerney]

I'd like to see something done regarding genuinely spontaneous battery fires. You could imagine a mandatory insurance being required which might incentivise sellers to reduce the danger.

Obviously, people buying from overseas make that difficult but leaving things as they are is unacceptable.

Do you mean insurance required of the seller, manufacturer or buyer and user? Insurance required of the buyer and user might make them more discerning; influence them to buy quality branded battery packs. If sellers and/or manufacturers are required to be insured against battery fires, as you say - people will simply buy from overseas cheaper.