E-scooters 'are five times safer than bikes' - Study by The Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents

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Probably his breeding days gone!

Reminds me, though now in my eighties, as a child miss judging the spacing of two bollards on an inter estate walkway. Jammed handle bars and a trip down the crossbar.
 

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Probably his breeding days gone!

Reminds me, though now in my eighties, as a child miss judging the spacing of two bollards on an inter estate walkway. Jammed handle bars and a trip down the crossbar.
Had he hit that barrier on a bike - up and over, landing on his unhelmeted head and jaw, instead of broken ribs potentially puncturing a lung, or whatever injuries he sustained.
 
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Had he hit that barrier on a bike - up and over, landing on his unhelmeted head and jaw, instead of broken ribs potentially puncturing a lung, or whatever injuries he sustained.
I'm sure his phone would have broken his fall. :D

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Had he hit that barrier on a bike - up and over, landing on his unhelmeted head and jaw, instead of broken ribs potentially puncturing a lung, or whatever injuries he sustained.
It was the lad "finding" the van I had in mind, sorry not the one referred to in the OP, I should have made that point.
 
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IMO there is no lack of "clarity" on "private electric scooter laws". surely the legality is clear enough, just everywhere the laws are both flaunted and ignored?

If the laws on use of private scooters need changing is quite a different question; again, IMO I can't see with the history of overlooking them, it ever now being reigned back, so by default the norm will morph into the legal.
 

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Easy. Go after Halfords for selling vehicles that ers illegal to use, fine 'em a couple of million. That should be enough to put off most sellers and raise public awareness to discourage buying.
Well in my dreams anyway.
 

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Easy. Go after Halfords for selling vehicles that ers illegal to use, fine 'em a couple of million. That should be enough to put off most sellers and raise public awareness to discourage buying.
Well in my dreams anyway.
"Dreams" yes, as they are not "illegal to use", just illegal to use as some buyers, I suspect nearly all, choose to use them.

The nearly total lack of enforcement of the law on illegal users has IMO lead to now an uncorrectable situation, well any widely acceptable one.