E-mopeds,e-scooters,legality?

[Kudoscycles]

I did a bit more internet searching and it looks like the e-moped and e-scooter markets are split between those who are doing it properly and those who are trying to cheat the rules.
One who is doing it properly is Zippe Electric Scooters,www.zippe.co.uk. So it is not necessary to be illegal,according to Zippe website they charge £70 to complete the DVLA registration on your behalf.
Those who are trying to cheat are largely on e-bay and often don't reveal a home address on their websites.
All seems a bit of a minefield, but you don't have to be illegal.
KudosDave

 

[Kudoscycles]

Shambolic.....I looked up the bike that I thought was same as yours,made by Nicom ......alibaba website 'nicom.en.alibaba.com'
The bike is popular in 2 models..

Model 1)...
Power 500 watt
Battery 48v x 12 Ah,lithium
Net weight 53kg
Gross weight (I assume with battery) 63kg
Restricted speed 25kph

Model 2)...
Power 800 watt
Battery 48v x 14 Ah,lead acid
Net weight 75kg
Gross weight 85kg
Restricted speed 25>42kph.

Either someone has managed to drastically reduce the weight and cut the power or someone is not being truthful?
These bikes need to be registered as e-mopeds,that is relatively easy because the bikes have EEC approval but they should be registered as e-mopeds.
You can obviously read and look at the photos on the website I have stated above.
Its a shame that these bikes cannot be legally classed as bicycles but that needs to be balanced with the thought that 14 year old teenagers could ride a 60kg machine down seafronts and cycle paths.
I rode this bike in China with 800 watts,it carried my 17 stone around very easy and in fact i took a 50kg girl on the pillion,they are very powerful relative to even the best of our 250 watt e-bikes,but that is as you would expect.
KudosDave

 

[shambolic]

First one I looked at completley different spec:

• Wattage: 251 - 350w
• Voltage: 48V
• Power Supply: Storage Battery
• Wheel Size: 18"
• Motor: Brushless
• Certification: EEC
• Frame Material: Steel
• Foldable: No
• Max Speed: 30-50km/h
• Range per Power: 31 - 60 km
• Place of Origin: Zhejiang, China (Mainland)
• Brand Name: Nicom
• Model Number: TDR48K15
• Model No: TDR48K15
• Brand Name: Nicom
• Motor power: 350W
• Tire size: 18*2.5 inch
• Battery: 48V/14AH Lead-acid
• Max speed: 32km/h
• Rated loading Weight: 125KGS
• Climbing Degree: 15degree
• F/R brake: F Drum/ R Expansion brake
• Charge time: 6-8

Same head, different tyres different motor, how many more options are there? Also this is not the chinese manufacurer my bike came from. Note the 500w one you refer to is called 'Big Power'. I know you are determined to discredit these bikes and I'm sure you have more arguements to justify this but already I have found contrary info. I know the buyers set their specs Without my getting everything double checked by a technician, I can only work on the spec given. As I understand it many of the conventional E-bikes could be questioned in some areas too.

 

[Kudoscycles]

Shambolic....but I notice that you conveniently left out the weight,the max weight of an e-bike is 40kgs,that bike TDR48K15 with the lead acid battery weighs 75kgs.....it would be a very simple matter for you to weigh your bike.
I dont wish to discredit these bikes,I did say that I thought the Nicom built bike was well built but it is an electric moped and should be registered as such,for highway use only. No bike weighing even 53 kilos will ride up a 1 in 6 hill,as the seller suggests,with only a 200 watt motor-commonsense says that is just not possible.
Maybe,someone should put one of these bikes through SVA (VOSA)to determine the legality-if they are legal as bicycles I would love to import them and sell them as bicycles. But the feedback I am getting is that if people have to register,tax,insure,wear a helmet etc,then they would prefer to buy a moped with increased speed and range.
Perhaps you could weigh your bike?
KudosDave

 

[shambolic]

I didn't 'conveniently' leave out the weight I just copied the first set of details. My point was not that this bike is within UK spec but that it was the first I saw and was completely different spec to the what you seemed to be claiming all these bikes have, thus it is reasonable to conclude that spec varies. I have enough trouble walking to the bike I've no idea how I could weigh it.