Disabled cyclist; with one bad choice behind her, needs help with a new bike

[Katymac]

I know what I don't want (I already have that)

I need a low step through, with shedloads of power to take me not very fast, everywhere, even up hills

I needs to be light, with big wheels, suspension, very sit up and beg

In fact a complete cross between the 2 bikes I have

The crusa is too heavy and all the weight is at the back so it's unstable when I walk with it or load it on the train

The fazua is too big for me I can't get my leg over the bar and my legs aren't strong enough to register on the torque/motor

 

[Giraffe]

Thanks, I am struggling to sell it - I'll have a go

The frame is from a small boutique brand - ATR

I cant trade it in locally as the bike shop that offers trade in doesn't sell anything suitable

I really have a green elephant in the corner of my spare room!

Now looking at a Ribble which is a similar weight bit I have worked out the motor yet

Maybe also advertise it in a few other places?

Cycling UK has a forum where you can sell bikes (not specifically ebikes but people sell all sorts of bikes: tourers, vintage, recumbents, trikes as well as ebikes). I have sold bikes there in the past. https://forum.cyclinguk.org. You don't need to be a cycling UK member to join the forum. Scroll down to find the bike sale thread. You might need to check up on it every so often to keep it active.

I wonder if there is a Facebook Group or Reddit Group for people interested in bikes with Fazua motors that might be worth advertising in? I am a bit wary of Facebook Marketplace but an a special interest group might be different.

 

[Katymac]

I'm back (said with a cackling laugh)

So I've palmed the green bike off to my husband as I couldn't sell it he thinks it's ok

& I'm remortgaging the house to buy a new bike

Someone suggested a cube, so I'm looking at them more closely & an estarli too

I've downgraded my 20 miles to 15 (Manngingtree and back) each way

I still want to be high up, still love my riding position of the Crusa & I want a more central centre of gravity as I still get the train

New info, I'm a nana now so I need a baby trailer! Looking at a Croozer

I may buy a new battery for the crusa for when I want to go far & wide so I'll be a 2 bike person!!

 

[saneagle]

I'm back (said with a cackling laugh)

So I've palmed the green bike off to my husband as I couldn't sell it he thinks it's ok

& I'm remortgaging the house to buy a new bike

Someone suggested a cube, so I'm looking at them more closely & an estarli too

I've downgraded my 20 miles to 15 (Manngingtree and back) each way

I still want to be high up, still love my riding position of the Crusa & I want a more central centre of gravity as I still get the train

New info, I'm a nana now so I need a baby trailer! Looking at a Croozer

I may buy a new battery for the crusa for when I want to go far & wide so I'll be a 2 bike person!!

Those choices are sending you down the same route again. People are recommending bikes that are good for them, not you, just like your brother did and probably half the people on this forum will. If you can't pedal very hard, you need a bike that gives power from a cadence sensor, not a torque sensor, and, ideally, it should have a working throttle too. I'm not sure about the Esteril. It might be OK or not. It seems a bit expensive if it has a normal cadence sensor, and wouldn't be so suitable if it has a torque sensor. Don't believe anything you read in magazine, Youtube or best buy reviews. They're all totally corrupt. Anybody with a Youtube channel gets offered free ebikes if you promise to do a favourable review.

Some bikes have a boost button or throttle that gives a boost to full power as long as you're turning the pedals and whenever you press it, which means that you can air-pedal if you get tired. The Engwe L20 Boost is one example. It's quite heavy, but very powerful and good for towing if you can find a way to attach a trailer. The Miriders also have that. They're more lightweight for taking on trains and transporting in car boots.

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[Nealh]

This is what I don't understand and the lady seems set on a TS bike which isn't the right drive system for her.
Katy has a Woosh Crusa and likes it , the hub drive system with Cadence PAS must suit her otherwise she wouldn't like the bike.
So why the view that a TS is the anwser ?

 

[guerney]

I suspect @Katymac is attracted by the comparatively low weights of the Cube and Estrali, for heaveaboutability. Sadly, neither will provide the ease of pedalling that her existing cadence sensored Crusa does.

Someone suggested a cube, so I'm looking at them more closely & an estarli too

Are both Cube and Estrali bikes available from various places for trial rides? Best try them out thoroughly. You will most likely be disappointed. Too expensive for an impulse purchase. I reckon, like myself, the "Natutal" feel of torque-sensored ebiking is the last thing you need or want. Sounds sweaty and far too much hard work.

 

[Katymac]

I suspect @Katymac is attracted by the comparatively low weights of the Cube and Estrali, for heaveaboutability. Sadly, neither will provide the ease of pedalling that her existing cadence sensored Crusa does.



Are both Cube and Estrali bikes available from various places for trial rides? Best try them out thoroughly. You will most likely be disappointed. Too expensive for an impulse purchase. I reckon, like myself, the "Natutal" feel of torque-sensored ebiking is the last thing you need or want. Sounds sweaty and far too much hard work.

I don't understand the way the motors are described so unless the say torque sensor I won't recognise one when I'm looking online

Sorry

 

[Woosh]

I don't understand the way the motors are described so unless the say torque sensor I won't recognise one when I'm looking online

Sorry

The Crusa has a throttle which can help you going up a hill or rest your legs if you are tired. Bikes with a torque sensor don't have throttle and the motor gives more power if you pedal harder which makes them unsuitable to those with health or musculoskeletal problems. With torque sensored bikes, you have to pedal hard to climb hills.

 

[Peter.Bridge]

Maybe :

Pardon our interruption...

Or if you can find a relatively light (maybe without front suspension from a weight point of view) step through bike with disc brakes as a donor bike, fit a kit to it (or get someone to help fit a kit).

Just for example, this is a womens Boardman Hyb8.6 that weighed 11kg (cost £240 second hand) - added kit and battery (£500) 16kg

I suspect a stepthrough donor bike would be slightly heavier
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[saneagle]

I don't understand the way the motors are described so unless the say torque sensor I won't recognise one when I'm looking online

Sorry

Anything that has a Bosch, Shimano, Yamaha or Brose motor has a torque sensor, and the power you get depends mostly on how hard you pedal. You'd have to try one on a steep hill on max power setting to see if it can give enough power for what you need. They're mostly a bit more powerful than your previous bike, but when you're tired and can't pedal hard, you don't get maximum power. There are many other bikes that use torque sensors, but it's not always mentioned in the listings, so stick to ones that you're sure of.

 

[Katymac]

Anything that has a Bosch, Shimano, Yamaha or Brose motor has a torque sensor, and the power you get depends mostly on how hard you pedal. You'd have to try one on a steep hill on max power setting to see if it can give enough power for what you need. They're mostly a bit more powerful than your previous bike, but when you're tired and can't pedal hard, you don't get maximum power. There are many other bikes that use torque sensors, but it's not always mentioned in the listings, so stick to ones that you're sure of.

So any of those are bad! I can learn I promise!!

So I need a list of those that are OK...


Plus I need to look at lightweight ladies bikes on Ebay maybe

 

[guerney]

So any of those are bad! I can learn I promise!!

So I need a list of those that are OK...


Plus I need to look at lightweight ladies bikes on Ebay maybe

Drop off a suitably low weight step-through bike to a professional conversionator, ask for a centrally situated battery, and possibly motor too, for more even weight distribution than your Crusa, and a suitably low weight high power cadence sensored motor kit, for overall lower weight than your Crusa.

Best post links to bikes and kits you're intersted in for the conversonators among us to suggest ideas.

 

[saneagle]

So any of those are bad! I can learn I promise!!

So I need a list of those that are OK...


Plus I need to look at lightweight ladies bikes on Ebay maybe

The problem is that lightweight and high power don't normally go together, except for bikes with small wheels (20"), which are generally smaller and lighter, and you get higher torque because of the mechanical advantage of the smaller wheels.

 

[Nealh]

Kat any EAPC you see that utilises a middle motor/crank motor will be a Torque sensing type irrelevant of brand .
For your needs as with the Woosh Crusa one will be looking for an EAPC with a hub motor.

 

[Woosh]

What's the vote thing at the top for?

I plead not guilty.