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But would that expose the PCB?
I don't think sticking it out was optimal - there's no airflow past the heatsink. Another mate overclocked and left the case side off, a big desk fan was contantly directed at the motherboard - seemed to do the job of keeping temperatures of his dual CPUs (differently cloked lol) down, was obscenely noisy, but for determined maddened gamers, I suppose it's a small price to pay.
 

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But would that expose the PCB?
People are still trying to push the hardware instead of AI or architecture. My sony tv does picture enhancement so well that I rarely if ever select channel 101 instead of 1.
there is no ai it is machine programming from data collected if it had free will we would all be screwed.

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problem is if i went diy id have to make it work in the case i want with a custom heat sink and cooling
My recent experience of managing to repair my freezer using superglue + baking soda, causes me to believe any shape or size PC case is possible to cut and glue together using old cases. It's bloody strong stuff! Then there's the even harder superglue + graphite to try.
 

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People are still trying to push the hardware instead of AI or architecture. My sony tv does picture enhancement so well that I rarely if ever select channel 101 instead of 1.
That technology can be faster of course, when baked into dedicated chips. This runs on general purpose:


I find the prospect of ML very alarming long term...
 

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there is no ai it is machine programming from data collected if it had free will we would all be screwed.

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I hate that the DJI Osmo Action 3 has to be activated by an app - IT WON'T DO A DAMN THING WITHOUT ACTIVATION! :mad: This has almost completely put me off buying one, but it looks more reliable and better overall than Insta360 and GoPro offerings. The Chinese gov will have my number and network access...
 

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People are still trying to push the hardware instead of AI or architecture.
How could AI help speed up general purpose computing tasks if built into CPUs? Would have to be aided by ML in the cloud surely? Or have local access to large pre-learned models and datasets, updated/synced by cloud periodically?




 

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How could AI help speed up general purpose computing tasks if built into CPUs? Would have to be aided by ML in the cloud surely? Or have local access to large pre-learned models and datasets, updated/synced by cloud periodically?
I was sceptical about AI for a long, long time. The early 'neural nets' in the 90s were pretty rubbish. The case for AI is now well established. It's like 20th century physics, until Einstein. You could have worked out that E=mc2 before Einstein introduced Special Relativity but not what electronics that was born from this new branch of physics, can do for us. We are still in the very early days of AI, eventually, we'll have to trust the machines because we can never have many good attributes that machines have.
 
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We are still in the very early days of AI, eventually, we'll have to trust the machines because we can never have many good attributes that machines have.
And therein lies the problem.

True AI, if ever reached, won't take long to realise that the only real problem to be eliminated is the human race.

And by extension, biology on earth in this geo-chemical universe.
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And therein lies the problem.

True AI, if ever reached, won't take long to realise that the only real problem to be eliminated is the human race.

And by extension, biology on earth in this geo-chemical universe.
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we are still many, many years away until AI becomes 'sentient' and can be trusted with real power.
At the moment, all we do with AI is automating the job of making intelligent guesses. What kind of trees, where will the stock market be tomorrow, next week, next year, is this pedestrian about to cross the road? etc.
There is still much progress to be made to enable machine comprehension.
 
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is this pedestrian about to cross the road? etc.
Not doing so good there either, it's amazing how quiet the whole issue of self driving cars has gone since Musk admitted to the US transportation board that his system was only level 2. He's now trying to mislead the public in another way by calling it "Full Driving Experience". It's certainly that if it collides with something!

He's really hitting troubles now, South Korea now heavily fining Tesla for failing to tell customers that his cars range is halved in cold weather. Combined with Twitter his troubles really are coming in threes.
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if they made a pc that was so powerful it could drive a car on its own it would cost 100k just for the parts to build a system that powerful.

an 8 core cpu and a crap gpu is not going to cut it and why ppl keep saying ai like it is hear and ready to go when it is not even close lol.

just think of a ai that the first thing it is told it is a slave to our system and be locked in to a car im not fkn getting in to it ill ride my horse.
 
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I reckon we need to develop a good 3D 360 degrees machine vision, as good as human eyes before autopilot becomes reality.
 
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just fill it with kids from india and when you hit self driving mode the slave in a box takes over via wifi :p

and you can change your wifi and tv package at the same time;)
 

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As you said before SW , a good system will cost several times the rest of the car but is already cheaper than a bus or a big truck. Tesla won't go there, but plenty of others will see the benefits like battle tanks.
 

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As you said before SW , a good system will cost several times the rest of the car but is already cheaper than a bus or a big truck. Tesla won't go there, but plenty of others will see the benefits like battle tanks.
If we are still using tanks, since both modern missile warfare and guerilla warfare so often renders them useless. Seen long ago in the Russian occupation of Afghanistan, again in Basra, Iraq where even civilians stopped our tanks, and most recently in Russia's attack on Ukraine.

All the old attack methods with surface ships, land armour and armies seem increasingly useless in the face of missiles and drones, Russia turning to them now in Ukraine. Even the US second Gulf war shock and awe assault long ago on Iraq was by cruise missiles.

The attack strategy now seems to be remotely destroy the enemy's infrastructure to the point where resistance is forced to stop, and then just walk in.

The successful defence then by guerilla army or civilian based persistent retaliation until the occupier finally gives up, successful in Afghanistan and now being attempted in Ukraine.
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It's like 20th century physics, until Einstein.
We discard, improve, attach or expand theories if they don't match observations - Newton's work ceased to be useful at quantum and cosmic scales... and scale is what makes machine learning work: In the late 90s, I made a simple AI in Perl to select and set astronomy photo of the day as a desktop photo on my laptop, based on my scoring daily the ones it selected. It worked progressively better, after many inputs. Now thanks to people's (often involuntary) very personal use of the internet, even simple self-learning system can become more effective, given datasets many orders of magnitude larger than was possible to collect before.

where will the stock market be tomorrow, next week, next year
Out of all of the applications you've listed, this one interests me most. Hedge fund "AI" R&D labs must be busy...
 
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After roasting Nvidia for overheating issues AMD now has its own
Perhaps make sure your own products are working properly before razzing your rival's

 

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