Cadence Sensor, Torque Sensor or Throttle?

[Cyclezee]

I don't understand how you can wire your bike for torque sensor + throttle.

Falco eMotors have systems that have a torque sensor + throttle.
The throttle overrides the others sensor.
eZee have worked on the torque sensor + throttle combination, I have tried it and it works.

 

[Cyclezee]

Following up on my previous post, Falco eMotors were a bit of a disaster as far as the UK is concerned and Team Hybrid who were the UK importers stopped dealing with them after a series of problems.
This culminated in them getting out of the electric bike business to focus entirely on their excellent hand cycles for the disabled, the electric version use Heinzmann and eZee systems.

 

[Cyclezee]

Your votes please, it only takes a second to choose your preference

 

[Lancslass]

Your votes please, it only takes a second to choose your preference

Difficult to have a preference when I've only been on one type of bike.
It doesn't feel right voting with my lack of experience.

 

[JohnCade]

Difficult to have a preference when I've only been on one type of bike.
It doesn't feel right voting with my lack of experience.

If only more people took such a sensible stance in other fields. General elections for instance....

 

[Cyclezee]

If only more people took such a sensible stance in other fields. General elections for instance....

...you would end up with a one party state

 

[RobF]

...you would end up with a one party state

Vote for the Party - everyone has to buy a Cyclezee bike.

 

[Cyclezee]

Vote for the Party - everyone has to buy a Cyclezee bike.

They would be out of luck, there is no such brand

 

[trex]

there ought to be, methinks.

 

[Ajax]

Which do you prefer and why?

My first Ebike, a PowerCycle Salisbury had torque and throttle.. which i just took for granted until i got my second ebike.

The torque sensor was very natural, the harder you pedaled the more the motor compensated. You could start very gradually on the torque sensor, or with full assist using the the throttle.

On the other hand my current bike has the pedal sensor which on its own requires a real effort to pedal the bike unassisted for those first few strokes until the motor suddenly kicks in. This can be very disconcerting and kinds of defeats the purpose of having a motor assisted bike...

For that reason i generally always use the throttle which offers more control than pedal sensor alone. I shudder to think of those people who, according to what i've read, wont have throttle controls, just the pedalic sensor.

 

[marwigan]

i'd vote for any that'd get me out of the embarrassing stall i had this afternoon. Had fiddled with chain/gears and installed a 11 toothed motor pulley on my Raleigh Leeds's panasonic motor, which from a forced halt due to hasty gear change could not start me up again, up the short steep section behind our house and with an inelegant dismount due to lack of forward travel - drat that crossbar-had to clamber off and PUSH. You know that feeling when you know folk in passing cars are having a bit of a leer. Hateful. Back to the 'niner' I think.

 

[anotherkiwi]

On the other hand my current bike has the pedal sensor which on its own requires a real effort to pedal the bike unassisted for those first few strokes until the motor suddenly kicks in. This can be very disconcerting and kinds of defeats the purpose of having a motor assisted bike...

It is no good then... My motor starts after the third magnet has passed the sensor i.e. about 1/3 of a rotation. The kick in isn't sudden - unless you are in assistance level 5 and the battery is fully charged in which case yes, you will be shot forward against the nearest hard object. You only do that once...

I have seen people with bikes that act like yours, a silly old fool almost mowed me down with his in a parking lot near my house last summer.

 

[Lancslass]

It is no good then... My motor starts after the third magnet has passed the sensor i.e. about 1/3 of a rotation. The kick in isn't sudden - unless you are in assistance level 5 and the battery is fully charged in which case yes, you will be shot forward against the nearest hard object. You only do that once...

I have seen people with bikes that act like yours, a silly old fool almost mowed me down with his in a parking lot near my house last summer.

I am but a bairn in throttle experience but am finding that I am best using assist 1 or 2 out of 5 when setting off, and employing the throttle selectively on hill starts or when coming onto a busy road from a quiet lane, and only rarely otherwise. I have yet to need the throttle elsewhere but I'm glad I've got the use of It in case I need it. I suspect it may be useful if I happen to have to stop in a high gear as well!

 

[Cyclezee]

With only one day left to vote the turnout has been rather disappointing but not entirely unexpected.
Voting does however show anything other than a cadence or torque sensor is preferred to a throttle.

 

[Emo Rider]

I have replied to this earlier with regard to having to have a wide choice of systems and styles to meet all customer's needs. One thing is for certain, with the feedback I have received in the last month, the 15mph throttle will be missed. However, customers new and naive to ebikes will never know what was if it is not mentioned. Will it hurt sales in the long run? Time will tell.

One last observation I will make is that crank drive bikes are starting to sell better than ever. I believe this is due to the success of the Bosch and Yamaha systems. I did see some bikes with a Bafang crank drive at the NEC show. Any thoughts on these?