Brexit, for once some facts.

Zlatan

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Perhaps electolal (pronounced like Kim Jong un's "ronnery") dysfunction? I mean the reason why starmer is a sukak clone must have something to do with representative focus groups..
Lot of years ago a Chinese chap bought a Ford Capri off me. He coped perfectly with Ford but just couldn't manage Capri. Seemed an odd purchase to buy a car that made folk smile every time he said what car he drove. Paid cash and disappeared up road, never heard from him again. Perfect customer.
 

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she should make a good pm :p
 

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I know that's the case (from my own quite old ev's trade in value as well). But don't get it when a brand new mg 4 is under 30k (with a lengthy guarantee & range etc), not in the bigger scheme of things much more expensive
Unfortunately there is a waiting list of a year plus for those MGs ... I actually enquired. My 12year old Peugeot is playing up a bit.. I think it's one of those teenage year angst things,.. it will be sprouting acnes theou the paint work one of these months. But at present it's gone into sulky fits where it locks it's brakes on and won't shift no Matter the threats.
 

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Unfortunately there is a waiting list of a year plus for those MGs ... I actually enquired. My 12year old Peugeot is playing up a bit.. I think it's one of those teenage year angst things,.. it will be sprouting acnes theou the paint work one of these months. But at present it's gone into sulky fits where it locks it's brakes on and won't shift no Matter the threats.
You and my doc may have been right about my needing to take statins. I've lose another stone but if that doesn't make serious improvements (got pain under armpits and heart irregular heartbeats after slow running on consecutive days, constant pain in one spot in my chest for awhile (over a week), if it worsens I'll go to A&E) I'll request statins. Till then, raw garlic (allicin) aplenty and Vitamin K2-rick cholesterol-free home-made Textured Vegetable Protein Natto, which already seems to be making a psychosomatic difference:

50003

Pain is much reduced after a week's raw garlic consumption... could worsen after a spot of slow jogging or cycling - will see how it goes.

A pill a day could make me apparently immortal, like you lot ;)


 
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flecc

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Unfortunately there is a waiting list of a year plus for those MGs ... I actually enquired.
I hit this problem in early 2018 after the new Nissan Leaf was announced. I'd immediately put a deposit down on one but too late already. Germany was soon announcing a one year waiting list and my local Nissan dealer suggested I take my deposit back since they couldn't give even a vague indication of delivery.

However I was able to jump the waiting list by taking advantage of the disparity of UK incomes. Knowing Nissan would be looking after their dealer chain with some allocation even in poorer areas, I kept my eyes peeled.

Sure enough, searching online one Friday evening I tripped over a newly added announcement that a Nissan dealer in Lancashire was expecting one in, coincidentally just the model and colour I wanted. With virtually no hope of an answer as it was 8pm, I jumped on the phone but to my astonishment it was answered. It transpired that their phone was switched though to that lady's home at close of business.

Having confirmed that the car wasn't spoken for I said I wanted to place a deposit on it and she advised that I could do that through their website. I did that with £1000 immediately and a short while later I received a call from her that she'd seen that, so she gave me their sales manager's name so I could contact him during business hours.

Two weeks later I was 251 miles away in Lancashire to view, test drive and pay for my new car and arrange it's delivery to avoid rapid charging a brand new one at least once to get it home.

I was even exceptionally lucky with that. It appeared there was a local chap with a Range Rover and car trailer who delivered for them who they contacted for a quote. When he learnt where the delivery was to, he didnt quote straight away saying he wanted to do some checking. Shortly after he called back with a quote for only £140, which seemed astonishingly low for an over 500 mile round trip, but it had to be on the next Friday.

On that day I didn't expect to see the car until midday at least, but to my astonishment he arrived before 9am! It was only then why the low price and only Friday was revealed. His Lancashire family had relatives at Hastings, so he'd brought his father with him so they could drive on to Hastings after delivering my car and spend the weekend there.

All in all my lucky new car which I've enjoyed for almost five years ever since.
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I hit this problem in early 2018 after the new Nissan Leaf was announced. I'd immediately put a deposit down on one but too late already. Germany was soon announcing a one year waiting list and my local Nissan dealer suggested I take my deposit back since they couldn't give even a vague indication of delivery.

However I was able to jump the waiting list by taking advantage of the disparity of UK incomes. Knowing Nissan would be looking after their dealer chain with some allocation even in poorer areas, I kept my eyes peeled.

Sure enough, searching online one Friday evening I tripped over a newly added announcement that a Nissan dealer in Lancashire was expecting one in, coincidentally just the model and colour I wanted. With virtually no hope of an answer as it was 8pm, I jumped on the phone but to my astonishment it was answered. It transpired that their phone was switched though to that lady's home at close of business.

Having confirmed that the car wasn't spoken for I said I wanted to place a deposit on it and she advised that I could do that through their website. I did that with £1000 immediately and a short while later I received a call from her that she'd seen that, so she gave me their sales manager's name so I could contact him during business hours.

Two weeks later I was 251 miles away in Lancashire to view, test drive and pay for my new car and arrange it's delivery to avoid rapid charging a brand new one at least once to get it home.

I was even exceptionally lucky with that. It appeared there was a local chap with a Range Rover and car trailer who delivered for them who they contacted for a quote. When he learnt where the delivery was to, he didnt quote straight away saying he wanted to do some checking. Shortly after he called back with a quote for only £140, which seemed astonishingly low for an over 500 mile round trip, but it had to be on the next Friday.

On that day I didn't expect to see the car until midday at least, but to my astonishment he arrived before 9am! It was only then why the low price and only Friday was revealed. His Lancashire family had relatives at Hastings, so he'd brought his father with him so they could drive on to Hastings after delivering my car and spend the weekend there.

All in all my lucky new car which I've enjoyed for almost five years ever since.
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It's nice when a plan comes together ..it's even nicer when it wasn't even planned.
 
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jonathan.agnew

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I hit this problem in early 2018 after the new Nissan Leaf was announced. I'd immediately put a deposit down on one but too late already. Germany was soon announcing a one year waiting list and my local Nissan dealer suggested I take my deposit back since they couldn't give even a vague indication of delivery.

However I was able to jump the waiting list by taking advantage of the disparity of UK incomes. Knowing Nissan would be looking after their dealer chain with some allocation even in poorer areas, I kept my eyes peeled.

Sure enough, searching online one Friday evening I tripped over a newly added announcement that a Nissan dealer in Lancashire was expecting one in, coincidentally just the model and colour I wanted. With virtually no hope of an answer as it was 8pm, I jumped on the phone but to my astonishment it was answered. It transpired that their phone was switched though to that lady's home at close of business.

Having confirmed that the car wasn't spoken for I said I wanted to place a deposit on it and she advised that I could do that through their website. I did that with £1000 immediately and a short while later I received a call from her that she'd seen that, so she gave me their sales manager's name so I could contact him during business hours.

Two weeks later I was 251 miles away in Lancashire to view, test drive and pay for my new car and arrange it's delivery to avoid rapid charging a brand new one at least once to get it home.

I was even exceptionally lucky with that. It appeared there was a local chap with a Range Rover and car trailer who delivered for them who they contacted for a quote. When he learnt where the delivery was to, he didnt quote straight away saying he wanted to do some checking. Shortly after he called back with a quote for only £140, which seemed astonishingly low for an over 500 mile round trip, but it had to be on the next Friday.

On that day I didn't expect to see the car until midday at least, but to my astonishment he arrived before 9am! It was only then why the low price and only Friday was revealed. His Lancashire family had relatives at Hastings, so he'd brought his father with him so they could drive on to Hastings after delivering my car and spend the weekend there.

All in all my lucky new car which I've enjoyed for almost five years ever since.
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My serendipitous luck was buying a used car before the pandemic and lockdowns and chip shortage. But doesn't time fly, seems the other day you bought it.
 
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flecc

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My serendipitous luck was buying a used car before the pandemic and lockdowns and chip shortage. But doesn't time fly, seems the other day you bought it.
Indeed, it's difficult to believe that it was nearly five years ago with it's third MOT coming up.

Incidentally WeBuyAnyCar have just sent their 17th email pleading to buy it. Their message has changed this time:

"We noticed your NISSAN price has dropped.
Now could be a good time to sell as your price may fall again."

So now it's threats!!
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"support for rejoining the EU had increased to 57%, against 43% preferring to stay out".
according to a recent poll.
 

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guerney

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Ginger's primal scream therapy will be televised, ladies and germs... once the coffers are full, and while she still has her figure: she'll get sick of playing mother and ditch him for a real man


 

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Four more percent swing and we can start demanding at 61/39.
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What if we vote again on brexit? If the result is rejoin, that will drag this country into years of negotiations, eating up bandwidth. Best to join EFTA instead. Starmer may consider it.
 

flecc

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What if we vote again on brexit? If the result is rejoin, that will drag this country into years of negotiations, eating up bandwidth. Best to join EFTA instead. Starmer may consider it.
Agreed, but either will be much easier if Rees Moggs Retained EU Law (Revocation and Reform) Bill is rejected.

If it isn't, even joining EFTA could mean years of renegotiation since the required laws have to have parity first.
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What if we vote again on brexit? If the result is rejoin, that will drag this country into years of negotiations, eating up bandwidth. Best to join EFTA instead. Starmer may consider it.
Agreed. The UK had quite an enviable relationship with the EU previously. None of which would apply if we requested to rejoin. I'm betting the pound would have to go as a minimum requirement. I was/am a definite "Remoaner" but not a "Re-joiner" what is done is done. No way back now which would satisfy the masses despite any spin put on it.

TTFN
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