Brexit, for once some facts.
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With Truss as chancellor. It will be a dream team. A world beater. And I mean beater (as in the way some of the piglet's friends were apparently beating off during those nr 10 parties).johnsontwat back in number 10, world king.....................hope not, no sunny uplands for anybody
If they did join we'd have to incorporate all their flags into the Union Jack.
If you ever had a paintbox as a child you'll know what happens when all the colours are mixed, so here would be the new Union Jack:
Model y (entry level) is discounted 7k to 44k I see. test drove one last year (jittery ride, leans in corners, interior underwhelming, not much faster than mg4 - circa 7s to 60 - and feels it) - and I'm probably not mentally adjusting to inflation, or just tight, but 44k for a car seem absurd.
It's the norm now.
As I've been saying in a number of posts, car manufacturers are using the e-car switch to completely change their marketing policies. They are rightly fed up with fiercely competing with each other to sell the cheapest small cars in order to make a loss on each one and compensating for that loss by selling a few premium models. It's why GM walked out of Europe
So now it's out with high numbers of small loss making cars, instead only marketing smaller numbers of premium cars at a healthy profit. Why not? Less work, more profit.
And of course that is precisely what governments worldwide also want, far fewer people able to afford cars and causing no end of trouble and expense using them.
Welcome to the future, it's going to be a shock to the many.
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Musk has discounted new models recently, including y
Tesla slashes UK prices by as much as £8000 | Autocar
American EV firm has cut prices to £42,990 for entry-level Model 3 and £44,990 for Model Y
No chance. That 7k reduction is because Tesla have always grossly overpriced, but as you've noted, £44,000 is still very expensive for what the model Y is.Musk has discounted new models recently, including y
Hopefully other ev manufacturers follow suite (though probably not entry level such as mg)Tesla slashes UK prices by as much as £8000 | Autocar
American EV firm has cut prices to £42,990 for entry-level Model 3 and £44,990 for Model Ywww.autocar.co.uk
You can't take any notice of MG prices , that's China out of line. If the Chinese step too far out of line they'll just get a high anti-dumping tax applied as happened to their e-bikes. In any case an MG at £30k is still double the ic cars of the old pricing market.
The cost of motoring is now doubling, both the new cars and the fuel to run them. And we've already been warned the VED goes up from 2025.
And even for those who can afford to carry on driving, they'll increasingly be doing that at the ever spreading town 20 mph and smart motorway speed limits.
The fun days are behind us now.
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the Telegraph has published an article admitting brexit has not worked out as leavers expected.
Britain is going to rejoin the EU far sooner than anyone now imagines (telegraph.co.uk)
Britain is going to rejoin the EU far sooner than anyone now imagines (telegraph.co.uk)
It will be much easier than you think, the EU will enjoy the "We told you so" experience. And a country rejoining after leaving will strengthen the EU by causing uncertainty among the anti-EU elements in other member countries.If they think leaving was painful, wait until they try to rejoin.
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I personally don't see it happening in my lifetime. Much closer links yes, possibly even a covert rejoin under the radar.
But I think the proposal of another referendum would be catastrophic for whoever was in power at the time. Doing it without a referendum would be catastrophic for whoever was in power as well. "Brexiteer's" didn't get the "Brexit" they wanted and I don't think "Re-Joiners/Remainers" would get the deal they want either.
(Mind you another referendum on Brexit would give Nicola Krankie the perfect argument for her appeals against the blocking of a new "Scottish Independence" vote).
TTFN
John.
That's already happening.
I would John. I'm a remainer who always wanted the UK to be a fully participating member in the euro area and with fully open borders, supporting eventual union into a single country called Europe, comprised of member states.
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Again, I don't disagree with you Flecc. But as usual we have a different amount of faith in the general populous.
To most, (Or at least those in my local area). The original referendum was about sovereignty and taking control of our borders (So how's that going for them).
An undercover alignment is in my opinion the best that can be hoped for in the near future.Of course, by the time I'm kicking up daisies the planet will be a very different place and the youth of today will all be middle aged and if you believe the various polls most never supported it anyway.
TTFN
John.
