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It did. But not, so far as I am aware, in debates, etc.

There were numerous comments in newspapers, online but often more subtle to comply with editorial policies.
Is she indicating should things go badly awry at the conference, she's ready to chuck kwasi Kwasi under the bus?

 

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Is she indicating should things go badly awry at the conference, she's ready to chuck kwasi Kwasi under the bus?

She's already done so, as far as I can see.

The fallout from the LK interview is pretty much a pyroclastic flow. Just about to leave MET and KK in some kind of preserved condition and, hopefully, buried for at least many centuries.

Gove has, more or less, said he won't vote for the so-called mini-budget. And he almost certainly carries quite a number with him.

All who vote against will lose the tory whip.

Two options, MET and KK go. Or the tory party goes down the plug-hole - with, I imagine, the creation of some sort of new party.
 
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Not surprised, North Donetsk inland is very vulnerable since it's always been mostly Ukrainian. The coastal region will be a different story.
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No flecc. All of Ukraine as defined by the 1991 borders is Ukraine. All of Russia as defined by the 1991 borders is Russia. If your point was that there are more Russian sympathetic Ukrainians closer to the Border with Russia , ..well of course. Just like there are more Basque sympathetic French in the Pyrenees than in Lille . And of course in the narrow strip of the Border region where Rusia was instigating violence for 8 years, there would be very few Ukrainian supporting Ukrainians left alive. Those with any wit had moved West on their own accord or were invited to leave .
 
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No flecc. All of Ukraine as defined by the 1991 borders is Ukraine. All of Russia as defined by the 1991 borders is Russia. If your point was that there are more Russian sympathetic Ukrainians closer to the Border with Russia , ..well of course. Just like there are more Basque sympathetic French in the Pyrenees than in Lille . And of course in the narrow strip of the Border region where Rusia was instigating violence for 8 years, there would be very few Ukrainian supporting Ukrainians left alive. Those with any wit had moved West on their own accord or were invited to leave .
Flecc . referring to your icon .you can have your own opinion , but not your own facts.
 

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No flecc. All of Ukraine as defined by the 1991 borders is Ukraine. All of Russia as defined by the 1991 borders is Russia. If your point was that there are more Russian sympathetic Ukrainians closer to the Border with Russia , ..well of course. Just like there are more Basque sympathetic French in the Pyrenees than in Lille . And of course in the narrow strip of the Border region where Rusia was instigating violence for 8 years, there would be very few Ukrainian supporting Ukrainians left alive. Those with any wit had moved West on their own accord or were invited to leave .
Now you are just being cussed with your opening sentences. Your fourth sentence showed you knew exactly what I meant in my post, the relative populations, but you just wanted to make out I'd meant something different.

You really can be such a obvious twerp at times.
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flecc

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Flecc . referring to your icon .you can have your own opinion , but not your own facts.
See my answer above and stop pretending I posted my own facts. My post was a factual one on the relative populations, as you acknowledged you knew.

I don't know what you mean by my "icon". Are you referring to my avatar?
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jonathan.agnew

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She's already done so, as far as I can see.

The fallout from the LK interview is pretty much a pyroclastic flow. Just about to leave MET and KK in some kind of preserved condition and, hopefully, buried for at least many centuries.

Gove has, more or less, said he won't vote for the so-called mini-budget. And he almost certainly carries quite a number with him.

All who vote against will lose the tory whip.

Two options, MET and KK go. Or the tory party goes down the plug-hole - with, I imagine, the creation of some sort of new party.
Fwiw I hope the lady's not for turning & digs in & plays to the faithful thick tory bubble that choose to attend. Gilt markets have been stabilised by BoE, but that temporary fix expire in two weeks. Two weeks of soaring mortgages, approaching swinging cuts in services followed by rising gilts to spook markets, fevalue pound. Then systemic crisis (perhaps another run on gilts) to excise her. Its bizarre irony that markets are protecting what democracy we have.
 
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jonathan.agnew

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See my answer above and stop pretending I posted my own facts. My post was a factual one on the relative populations, as you acknowledged you knew.

I don't know what you mean by my "icon". Are you referring to my avatar?
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My dear fellow forumites. I realize websites subsist on hits. And burnt out old fart that i am, i can appreciate the terrible need to stir controversy to generate these. But if we flog what's left of the vertebra of this poor ******* horse much more we risk of being dragged of to the Hague for a war crime, a crime against humanity.
 
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This is a "Dear Ernst, you may rely on me to do what is expedient" moment
before Hitler had Rohm assassinated

Classic "How many people voted for your plan?"
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"What do you mean by that!"
Actually it was very democratic in one sense
One man one vote? :cool:
Just switched, while on treadmill run, on sky news to mordaunt invoking dead queen at conference as part of telling us to be obedient and stoic and sacrifice ourselves for her very new friend other liz. Switched to temple of doom on 4 to stop the dry retching
 

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My dear fellow forumites. I realize websites subsist on hits. And burnt out old fart that i am, i can appreciate the terrible need to stir controversy to generate these. But if we flog what's left of the vertebra of this poor ******* horse much more we risk of being dragged of to the Hague for a war crime, a crime against humanity.
On the naive assumption that anyone can remember what the thread was originally about/
Like the liberation of Ukraine, I intend keep right on till the EU borders are fully restored
 
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Hang about! have you just done a Liz Truss on me? o_O
You'll need to explain how this links to my reply to Danidl.

First Danidl's reference to my icon, whatever he means by that. Now this obtuse response from you. This forum gets ever more baffling.

Yet I'm the one JA accuses of using illicit drugs or alcohol, neither of which I do!
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Like the liberation of Ukraine, I intend keep right on till the EU borders are fully restored
I'm all for that, kick out all the former Warsaw Pact and Johnny come lately members of the EU and restore the true original 12 member EU of 7 February 1992:

Great Britain, France, Germany, the Irish Republic, Spain, Portugal, Italy, Greece, Denmark, Luxembourg, Belgium, and the Netherlands.
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flecc

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On the naive assumption that anyone can remember what the thread was originally about
I remember of course, since I started it.

BUT, it was only ever intended to be a link to an informative radio program about leaving the EU. I had no intention that it should be a continuing thread. But for some odd reason those discussing the referendum in an existing thread jumped ship.

The BBC normally keep such programs online for a year, but that program I linked to can still be listened to from post 1 on this thread after six and half years.

Obviously the Beeb must also be following this thread, so aware of the need. ;)
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You'll need to explain how this links to my reply to Danidl.

First Danidl's reference to my icon, whatever he means by that. Now this obtuse response from you. This forum gets ever more baffling.

Yet I'm the one JA accuses of using illicit drugs or alcohol, neither of which I do!
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I thought he had usurped my hard fought for position with your reference to him:)
 
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oldgroaner

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I remember of course, since I started it.

BUT, it was only ever intended to be a link to an informative radio program about leaving the EU. I had no intention that it should be a continuing thread. But for some odd reason those discussing the referendum in an existing thread jumped ship.

The BBC normally keep such programs online for a year, but that program I linked to can still be listened to from post 1 on this thread after six and half years.

Obviously the Beeb must also be following this thread, so aware of the need. ;)
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And don't forget our fan club of the boys and girls at Menwith Hill :cool:
 
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You'll need to explain how this links to my reply to Danidl.

First Danidl's reference to my icon, whatever he means by that. Now this obtuse response from you. This forum gets ever more baffling.

Yet I'm the one JA accuses of using illicit drugs or alcohol, neither of which I do!
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By icon I meant the little symbol with a thumbs down you posted.
 
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