Brexit, for once some facts.

oyster

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Maybe after compost for growing their cannabis.
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Getting some peat before it is finally banned?

(Anyone remember all sorts of "Stop peat digging" things back in the early 1970s? Seems they always manage to proclaim things no longer contain peat in big letters, in advertising. But never mention when they revert to peat.)
 
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oyster

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How many illegal plants and lighting set up's went missing? :cool:
If the grid starts to fallover, think how many pot plants won't survive!

I suspect that growers will see their electricity usage sticking out like a sore thumb this winter - if anyone is looking at consumption. (Even if they bypass meters, perhaps measurement at transformer level would act as a beacon.)
 

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If the grid starts to fallover, think how many pot plants won't survive!

I suspect that growers will see their electricity usage sticking out like a sore thumb this winter - if anyone is looking at consumption. (Even if they bypass meters, perhaps measurement at transformer level would act as a beacon.)
Speaking of electricity, has anyone tried the new brompton electric? Wife does not like hills, and it's useful for travelling. Does the 15.5mph official top speed for pedelecs still mean an unofficial 19mph (as it did perhaps 6 years ago when I bought my last one)?
 

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what do you mean unofficial 19mph? did you have a tongxin kit on your old Brompton without an LCD? If you have an LCD, the speed limit is set in the LCD. You can change the setting but the motor won't go much above 15mph derestricted.
 
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what do you mean unofficial 19mph? did you have a tongxin kit on your old Brompton without an LCD? If you have an LCD, the speed limit is set in the LCD. You can change the setting but the motor won't go much above 15mph derestricted.
It was a kalkhoff (non folding, against all odds reliable, torque sensor mid drive, no adjustment i know of on LCD) which gave ok assistance to somewhere between 18 and 19 mph (in power mode). I'm afraid I haven't had a powered brompton yet
 

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so you are thinking of getting an electric Brompton? or have you got an old Brompton that you want to electrify?
 

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so you are thinking of getting an electric Brompton? or have you got an old Brompton that you want to electrify?
What attracted me to the new electric brompton is that it apparently has a torque sensor. Having tried both movement and torque sensors I greatly prefer this. Which is unfortunate because halfords sell a very cheap quite attractive 16 folder with a movement sensor, and I find the brompton's ride quite compromised (hard, lots of road noise - have had an unpowered one for years). On the other hand, i suspect torque sensored e bikes give their batteries an easier time. I have a classic bickerton with a lovely ride, but sadly no one seem to make very small torque sensored kits.
Edit - my mistake, the xiaomi mi comes with a ttn torque sensor, will have to try it
 
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@jonathan.agnew - I went for a slow jog last night, first time in months. I've been gardening and pretending to pedal for exercise... and today my legs are aching like hell. It was only two miles! Amazing how quickly leg muscles change, for the worst in my case. Obviously time to get back to it, regular like and fast! My heart isn't going to strengthen itself.
 
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So many lies, so much deception, but - true or not - I like this story:

Ukraine using wooden decoys to lure Russia into wasting its missiles - report
Replicas of US-supplied rocket launcher systems drew at least 10 Russian Kalibr cruise missiles, reports say

A Kalibr is reported to cost around $6.5 million. (Unclear if that is the price to Russia or an equivalent cost in the USA.)

Looks like Ukraine should be snuggling up close to Ikea for their new ranges of dummy military kit. Why, the Russians have even chosen an Ikea-esque name - Kalibr.
 
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What attracted me to the new electric brompton is that it apparently has a torque sensor. Having tried both movement and torque sensors I greatly prefer this. Which is unfortunate because halfords sell a very cheap quite attractive 16 folder with a movement sensor, and I find the brompton's ride quite compromised (hard, lots of road noise - have had an unpowered one for years). On the other hand, i suspect torque sensored e bikes give their batteries an easier time. I have a classic bickerton with a lovely ride, but sadly no one seem to make very small torque sensored kits.
Edit - my mistake, the xiaomi mi comes with a ttn torque sensor, will have to try it
@Nealh mentioned something called a Gaspade the other day - a very small mid motor which only weighs 2.46kg... but may be cadence sensing only? Reminded me of Pratchett's "Gaspode The Wonder Dog".
 
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Ebico using Octopus as a supplier is working well for me - I provide readings every month and they only charge me what I've used. I have no idea how Octopus charge their own customers. I'm about to get the gas disconnected because I don't use it for anything, and it's silly to pay the mad standing charge... or I was until I realised cooking with gas was a bit cheaper... then changed my mind because it isn't much cheaper when the mad standing charge is taken into account.
 
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Ebico using Octopus as a supplier is working well for me - I provide readings every month and they only charge me what I've used. I have no idea how Octopus charge their own customers. I'm about to get the gas disconnected because I don't use it for anything, and it's silly to pay the mad standing charge... or I was until I realised cooking with gas was a bit cheaper... then changed my mind because it isn't much cheaper when the mad standing charge is taken into account.
I'd not be wanting to cut off gas right now.

Yes - I am well aware of the standing charge issue. But what we do not know is whether electricity will be available throughout the winter. Our resilience is wafer-thin even if we can just about manage. Hence, any disruption could see power cuts.

It is more difficult to turn off gas!

(Obviously, some gas devices won't run without electricity. Such as my boiler. Am assuming at least your hob will work.)
 

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I'd not be wanting to cut off gas right now.

Yes - I am well aware of the standing charge issue. But what we do not know is whether electricity will be available throughout the winter. Our resilience is wafer-thin even if we can just about manage. Hence, any disruption could see power cuts.

It is more difficult to turn off gas!

(Obviously, some gas devices won't run without electricity. Such as my boiler. Am assuming at least your hob will work.)
I haven't owned a gas cooker for years - short lived ceramic, so don't know if the newer ones with the gas safety cutoff device need plug in power. I suppose I could burn gas to power a genny made using my ebike motor, a kettle and some paddles? Or I could go hydro, use water pressure...

Quite seriously, now might be a good time to buy a small petrol generator.
 

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I haven't used a gas cooker for years - short lived ceramic, so don't know if the newer ones with the gas safety cutoff device need plug in power. I suppose I could burn gas to power a genny made using my ebike motor, a kettle and some paddles? Or I could go hydro, use water pressure...
Don't know why I assumed you had a gas hob! What do you have on gas?

I have gas hob (which does not need electricity) and electric induction hob.
 

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Don't know why I assumed you had a gas hob! What do you have on gas?

I have gas hob (which does not need electricity) and electric induction hob.
Absolutely nothing uses gas anymore - new electric boiler last year, just haven't got around to installing a gas cooker... but with the mad standing charge padding which the energy companies are using to bypass the energy price cap, and quite horrendous looking future increases for what seems may be years, I may have gas to my home amputated asap. Octopus don't charge, they say, but someone else might.
 
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I have gas hob (which does not need electricity) and electric induction hob.
Some mombers of my family have asthma, thought I'd remove all in-house pollution sources.
 
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Truss will move in Tuesday. I predict giveaways galore and very confused ruinous (for the country) policies, when what needs to happen is nationalisation of energy - even Tory voters want it... unclear if it's the half full or half empty half.


Labour is doomed if she out-Corbyns Corbyn...
 
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