Brexit, for once some facts.

[oldgroaner]

Was that before or after:
Boris Johnson admits: I could have handled Owen Paterson affair better

PM accepts blame for Tory sleaze row, suggesting he had made an ‘unforced error' in botched attempt to reform standards system in Parliament

Boris Johnson admits 'I could have handled Owen Paterson affair better'

PM accepts blame for Tory sleaze row, suggesting he had made an ‘unforced error' in botched attempt to reform standards system in Parliament

www.telegraph.co.uk

So what would a "forced" error look like?

 

[oyster]

So what would a "forced" error look like?

Apology as footnote to COP26 in Edinburgh...
Hoping no-one noticed it.

 

[wheeler]

Utterly perthetic. A stirling effort by the idjit.

Boris doesn't do detail, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Stirling, it's all just Scotland to him.

 

[oyster]

She needs treatment - so she can come to terms with her inability to accept she was wrong, her perpetuation of the allegation for six years despite clear evidence to the contrary.

Absolutely and totally unsuited to being a minister, especially home secretary.

Priti Patel apologises to man falsely described as extremist hate preacher

Priti Patel apologises to man falsely described as extremist hate preacher

Dr Salman Butt wins compensation for being described in 2015 press release as someone who legitimises terrorism

www.theguardian.com

 

[oyster]

Boris doesn't do detail, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Stirling, it's all just Scotland to him.

Rotterdam or anywhere...

 

[flecc]

Walk-in Vaccine Centres - - - - - The Reality

On Saturday afternoon I posted that I now had the following Walk-in vaccination centres added online by the NHS:

Nearby pharmacy on my estate: Booster only.

Pharmacy on adjacent estate (3 miles): both Booster and 'Flu at same time.

I looked online again this morning and found a complete change:

Nearby pharmacy on my estate: No Booster now but 'Flu instead.

Pharmacy on adjacent estate: No longer listed at all.

So I decide to pop out and get the reality from the "horse's mouth" as it were:

Nearby pharmacy on my estate: "No we aren't doing any vaccinations and won't be."

Pharmacy on adjacent estate: "No, they have to be booked."

So I pointed out that they are no longer listed for anything, including booking:

"Oh that means we are fully booked so aren't accepting any more bookings."

That leaves me only with distant options which could turn out to be just as unreliable

So as I might have suspected with the NHS, an utter shambles, and it gets worse. There are multiple links containing access routes for the walk-in jabs, including this one:

www.nhs.uk/grab-a-jab

But as you might have guessed, different routes give different answers on the availability of centres and none appear dependable.

So I'm now back to not bothering to get either until they get their act together.
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[wheeler]

Rotterdam or anywhere...

The Blonde Bawbag's new theme tune,

 

[Woosh]

Walk-in Vaccine Centres - - - - - The Reality

On Saturday afternoon I posted that I now had the following Walk-in vaccination centres added online by the NHS:

Nearby pharmacy on my estate: Booster only.

Pharmacy on adjacent estate (3 miles): both Booster and 'Flu at same time.

I looked online again this morning and found a complete change:

Nearby pharmacy on my estate: No Booster now but 'Flu instead.

Pharmacy on adjacent estate: No longer listed at all.

So I decide to pop out and get the reality from the "horse's mouth" as it were:

Nearby pharmacy on my estate: "No we aren't doing any vaccinations and won't be."

Pharmacy on adjacent estate: "No, they have to be booked."

So I pointed out that they are no longer listed for anything, including booking:

"Oh that means we are fully booked so aren't accepting any more bookings."

That leaves me only with distant options which could turn out to be just as unreliable

So as I might have suspected with the NHS, an utter shambles, and it gets worse. There are multiple links containing access routes for the walk-in jabs, including this one:

www.nhs.uk/grab-a-jab

But as you might have guessed, different routes give different answers on the availability of centres and none appear dependable.

So I'm now back to not bothering to get either until they get their act together.
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my friend who is a nurse at Southend General told us yesterday that the covid ward at her hospital has more and more unvaccinated and fewer vaccinated. This week, all patients in there are unvaccinated.
Personally, I think the Pfizer is worth the effort.

 

[oyster]

my friend who is a nurse at Southend General told us yesterday that the covid ward at her hospital has more and more unvaccinated and fewer vaccinated. This week, all patients in there are unvaccinated.
Personally, I think the Pfizer is worth the effort.

Given that as the number of vaccinated people rises, you would expect more vaccinated to be hospitalised, even if it is very effective, that appears quite significant.

I hope the Pfizer is good - for me and for everyone else. Am glad not be getting a third AZ - in the early days, there were suggestions that a third AZ dose was more likely to cause a reaction due to sensitisation from the first two doses.

 

[flecc]

Personally, I think the Pfizer is worth the effort.

Effort isn't the issue, I spent the morning making the effort.

The issue is as I posted previously, one of risk, and this was illustrated in part by my very poor experience when getting my first jab. The second jab was a different poor experience, waiting in a queue outdoors for three quarters of an hour in poor weather again before the queue even started to move towards getting into the building. To that is now added using public transport to distant locations and both that and vaccine points full of unmasked people.

This link is to the first jab experience.

My usual life is virtually 100% risk free. The only time I get anywhere near anyone else is in my use of an out of London large supermarket in North Surrey at off peak times when it's very empty and where almost everyone still masks.

So the issue is one of taking a range of risks in order to get vaccinated against getting infected by those risks which I wouldn't normally face if not getting vaccinated.

I trust you can see how silly that is, especially when the vaccines have no guarantee of protecting me from getting infected.
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[oyster]

Labour appear to be making quite a number of moves on the sleaze front. For example:

Labour asks for lobbying by four Tory MPs to be investigated

Labour asks for lobbying by four Tory MPs to be investigated

Work of Iain Duncan Smith and three more MPs should be examined for possible rule breaches, Fleur Anderson tells cabinet secretary

www.theguardian.com

 

[jonathan.agnew]

Effort isn't the issue, I spent the morning making the effort.

The issue is as I posted previously, one of risk, and this was illustrated in part by my very poor experience when getting my first jab. The second jab was a different poor experience, waiting in a queue outdoors for three quarters of an hour in poor weather again before the queue even started to move towards getting into the building. To that is now added using public transport to distant locations and both that and vaccine points full of unmasked people.

This link is to the first jab experience.

My usual life is virtually 100% risk free. The only time I get anywhere near anyone else is in my use of an out of London large supermarket in North Surrey at off peak times when it's very empty and where almost everyone still masks.

So the issue is one of taking a range of risks in order to get vaccinated against getting infected by those risks which I wouldn't normally face if not getting vaccinated.

I trust you can see how silly that is, especially when the vaccines have no guarantee of protecting me from getting infected.
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After I had my first jab I was made to sit and wait in a muggy unairconditioned low ceilinged room with 25 other recipients for fifteen minutes (come to think of it, much as after the second and third). The perverse logic of trying to protect one from anaphylaxis by exposing one to far greater risk (aerobic infection). One reason I stoically ploughed through it was because it felt a familiar perverse english way - the self sabotaging way we do nearly everything we do.

 

[flecc]

After I had my first jab I was made to sit and wait in a muggy unairconditioned low ceilinged room with 25 other recipients for fifteen minutes (come to think of it, much as after the second and third). The perverse logic of trying to protect one from anaphylaxis by exposing one to far greater risk (aerobic infection). One reason I stoically ploughed through it was because it felt a familiar perverse english way - the self sabotaging way we do nearly everything we do.

I learnt in here about the 15 minute wait, and indeed two friends who had their jabs earlier than me both suffered it each time.

But although I used the same health centre there were no waits after the jabs. Indeed the way it was reorganised for the second jab it was needle out so close to the exit I was pointed to it without even 15 seconds wait.
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[Nev]

Here is a heads up to a prog I will be recording for later viewing. It's on channel 4 this evening at 8:30 (Dispatches) and it's about how small and medium sized businesses who export to the EU are managing post Brexit.

 

[Danidl]

my friend who is a nurse at Southend General told us yesterday that the covid ward at her hospital has more and more unvaccinated and fewer vaccinated. This week, all patients in there are unvaccinated.
Personally, I think the Pfizer is worth the effort.

Exactly our Irish experience!. As of today, Hospitals in the Republic are at surge capacity , with basically no excess capacity. There are now about 700 Covid admissions in Hospitals, of which 142 are in ICU ..about 20% . Of course hospitals also deal with other conditions, and the Covid admissions have gone up by 200 in the last 10 days. We are however in a better situation than our colleagues in NI where the hospitals are going off service. And the vast majority of hospital admissions are non vaxxed in both jurisdictions. You might not be getting that type of news in the rest of theUK.

 

[Nev]

Just got invited for booster (both of us, but at different times) - on Tuesday. Sent by post.

How long has it been since you had your second injection? I am 6 months and a few days over and I haven't heard anything, a couple of people I know who had their second injection on the same day as me haven't heard anything either.

Up until now I had been quite pleased with the Welsh Governments response to the virus but they don't seem to have sorted out the booster jabs very well. Unlike England I don't think we have any walk in centers and I don't think you can book on line like you can in England.

 

[flecc]

Here is a heads up to a prog I will be recording for later viewing. It's on channel 4 this evening at 8:30 (Dispatches) and it's about how small and medium sized businesses who export to the EU are managing post Brexit.

Indeed, I've already set my recorder for it.
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[Danidl]

Effort isn't the issue, I spent the morning making the effort.

The issue is as I posted previously, one of risk, and this was illustrated in part by my very poor experience when getting my first jab. The second jab was a different poor experience, waiting in a queue outdoors for three quarters of an hour in poor weather again before the queue even started to move towards getting into the building. To that is now added using public transport to distant locations and both that and vaccine points full of unmasked people.

This link is to the first jab experience.

My usual life is virtually 100% risk free. The only time I get anywhere near anyone else is in my use of an out of London large supermarket in North Surrey at off peak times when it's very empty and where almost everyone still masks.

So the issue is one of taking a range of risks in order to get vaccinated against getting infected by those risks which I wouldn't normally face if not getting vaccinated.

I trust you can see how silly that is, especially when the vaccines have no guarantee of protecting me from getting infected.
.

Flecc.. I am simply appalled at the treatment you are receiving. Especially someone of your advanced years. Contrast that with the treatment I have got. However I must suggest that the outcome of a covid infection with the Pfizer is orders of magnitude better than without. There are no guarantees, just probabilities

 

[flecc]

How long has it been since you had your second injection? I am 6 months and a few days over and I haven't heard anything, a couple of people I know who had their second injection on the same day as me haven't heard anything either.

It seems a bit patchy. A couple of same age friends were contacted by letter to book the booster over two weeks before the six months was up, but my first booster contact letter was 12 days after my six months. Today I also got a 'flu jab invitation letter a further 3 days on.
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[oyster]

How long has it been since you had your second injection? I am 6 months and a few days over and I haven't heard anything, a couple of people I know who had their second injection on the same day as me haven't heard anything either.

Up until now I had been quite pleased with the Welsh Governments response to the virus but they don't seem to have sorted out the booster jabs very well. Unlike England I don't think we have any walk in centers and I don't think you can book on line like you can in England.

May 12. Which makes it five months.

I get the impression that there were issues (suspect refrigeration for Pfizer), which have been overcome, and we are now on full steam ahead.