Brexit, for once some facts.

guerney

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Think back to when the tories used to point out Russian funding of unions and Labour - whether or not there was any truth.
Of course... they've got most of the press on their side, unfortunately, and can dominate messaging far more effectively so that more mud sticks if they sling enough.
 

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You thought it funny Oyster, but in Norway where cyclists struggle through snow as we've seen in the photos from e-bikers there, a few miles of completely dry, snow free roads would be an attraction. Especially since it would cut out the large climb between the two end points making cycling rather than driving viable.
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You thought it funny Oyster, but in Norway where cyclists struggle through snow as we've seen in the photos from e-bikers there, a few miles of completely dry, snow free roads would be an attraction. Especially since it would cut out the large climb between the two end points making cycling rather than driving viable.
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they may have done it.
 

flecc

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You thought it funny Oyster, but in Norway where cyclists struggle through snow as we've seen in the photos from e-bikers there, a few miles of completely dry, snow free roads would be an attraction. Especially since it would cut out the large climb between the two end points making cycling rather than driving viable.
Check out where these two Norwegian e-bikers are, far to the North of the Arctic Circle and where it's snow all year round:

Boreios and Gustavplatten

they may have done it.
I hope so.
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guerney

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317 miles across the North Sea to Norway, which is 700m at it's deepest point - longest bridge in the world is 102.34 miles...
 

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You thought it funny Oyster, but in Norway where cyclists struggle through snow as we've seen in the photos from e-bikers there, a few miles of completely dry, snow free roads would be an attraction. Especially since it would cut out the large climb between the two end points making cycling rather than driving viable.
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I didn't think the idea was funny - just that they are building something on a mammoth scale and your point refers to a metre width along the edges.

Some mock-up images imply a path/paths, some don't. I'd have thought it mad not to have paths both sides in case of emergencies. And, having got them, allow cycling if at all feasible.
 

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I'd have thought it mad not to have paths both sides in case of emergencies. And, having got them, allow cycling if at all feasible.
That's the bit where it might fall down, restricting the path to emergency only use.

Like the Channel Tunnel third service tunnel, just over 31 miles and no steep slopes, so ideal for keen cyclists who think nothing of a ride like that.

But sadly they aren't allowed access. :(
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oldgroaner

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That's the bit where it might fall down, resticting the path to emergency only use.

Like the Channel Tunnel third service tunnel, just over 31 miles and no steep slopes, so ideal for keen cyclists who think nothing of a ride like that.

But sadly they aren't allowed access. :(
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Probably Priti Patel demanded that to prevent fleets of immigrants disguised as French Onion Sellers taking a one way trip :cool:
 

flecc

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Probably Priti Patel demanded that to prevent fleets of immigrants disguised as French Onion Sellers taking a one way trip :cool:
That couldn't happen, obviously only English Cyclists would be allowed to use it.

It is after all the Channel Tunnel, i.e. the English Channel. NOT Le tunnel sous la Manche.

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That couldn't happen, obviously only English Cyclists would be allowed to use it.

It is after all the Channel Tunnel, i.e. the English Channel. NOT Le tunnel sous la Manche.
We would of course also allow Welsh and Scottish cyclists through.

Northern Ireland cyclists though would have to go through customs at the mid tunnel point. ;)
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What a fate for a boy, to be politically named.

I learnt today on a radio program that as a result of his intervention following the Balkan Wars that a popular name for Kosovan boys became Tonyblair, pronounced as a single word with Tony pronounced like Bonny

The background:

"It was the summer of 1997 and one hotly debated question was whether NATO troops should go out of their way to apprehend indicted war criminals. Many Western generals and politicians were nervous; they didn’t want to incite an insurgency and they were content to monitor the fragile ceasefire. Disheartening reports of war criminals passing through NATO checkpoints became commonplace.

Blair had taken office in May but Britain’s Bosnia policy had been horrendous for years. Then, one day in the middle of July, news broke that British SAS commandos had confronted and shot a Serb war criminal in northern Bosnia. Almost overnight, the tenor of the Bosnia mission changed. The British operation stiffened the spine of the other NATO countries, and soon the power of Bosnia’s extreme nationalists began to slip. It was seen as a gutsy move for a brand new prime minister."
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“The government said: "CO2 suppliers have agreed to pay CF Fertilisers a price for the CO2 it produces that will enable it to continue operating while global gas prices remain high, drawing on support from industry and delivering value for money for the taxpayer”

In other word, CF Fertilisers has asked the government to drop its trousers and bend over whilst they give them a right royal rogering. The government has signalled its intent to oblige.
 

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As Boris is on Holiday again it falls on the only sentient lifeform at no 10 to run the country
 

oyster

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As Boris is on Holiday again it falls on the only sentient lifeform at no 10 to run the country
Hinds is quoted as saying:
“What is important for the rest of us actually, for the whole country, is that the prime minister does get to have some family time, does get to have a break.”

Funny how he only needs family time with one family...
 

Jesus H Christ

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Following an investigation by MPs, the Tory friendly Daily Fail carries the headline that the initial government response to Covid was the worst public health failing in British history and that thousands of the UKs elderly died needlessly because they were an afterthought.
It’s not all quite as bad though. Dildo Harding’s Test & Trace escapes by only being described as a thirty seven thousand million pound chaotic mess. So by contrast to the initial Covid response, something a little more positive for ministers to cling to.

The Daily Express prefers not to report on any of it. They are telling their readership how Boris is going to fill the supermarket shelves in time for Christmas! They neglected to mention that the reason they are empty is because of Boris and his oven ready deal.

How did people arrive at a situation where they have such an appetite for this BS. There are still people out there vigorously defending these clowns. Maybe it’s because there is very little alternative.
 
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oyster

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My morning read has started with this:

Coronavirus: lessons learned to date
Executive Summary

Covid-19 has been the biggest crisis our country has faced in generations, and the greatest peacetime challenge in a century. It has disrupted our lives to an extent few predicted; separated friends and families; closed businesses and damaged livelihoods; and, most tragically of all, it has been associated with the deaths of over 150,000 people in the UK and nearly 5 million people worldwide to date.1

The United Kingdom is not alone in having suffered badly because of covid-19 and the pandemic is far from over. Comparing the experience of different countries is not straightforward: covid-related deaths are recorded in varying ways. The effect of the pandemic on particular countries has been different at different times—for example some countries that fared better than others in the early months of the pandemic have subsequently experienced more fatalities.2 But in 2020 the UK did significantly worse in terms of covid deaths than many countries—especially compared to those in East Asia even though they were much closer geographically to where the virus first appeared.3 The scale of this early loss requires us to ask why the UK was affected worse than others.

Conversely the success of the vaccine programme—one of the most effective in Europe and, for a country of our size one of the most effective in the world—shows that positive as well as negative lessons should be taken from our handling of the pandemic. All learning needs to happen rapidly because of the likelihood of future pandemics which is why we are producing this Report now. Its purpose is not to point fingers of blame but ensure an accurate understanding of both successes and failures to date so that crucial lessons can be learned for the future.

https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm5802/cmselect/cmsctech/92/9204.htm
 

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