Brexit, for once some facts.
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I was out running with a group on Thursday. Two people in that group now have coronavirus. I have tested myself and it’s negative (for what that is worth). How far back is the rule for isolation? Do I need to do anything else? There seems to be very little / nothing in terms of guidance.
I disagree that flecc can’t disagree. I for one agree with flecc’s decision to disagree with you. But, I agree, you are likely to disagree with my decision to agree with flecc’s disagreement. On this I guess you & I must agree to disagree. I hope you agree.
I think partly from financial necessity, partly because the old way hasn't worked.
Perhaps it's dawned on them that it couldn't, there were too many gaps in the armour.
At the point when the first vaccinations were switched to the 40 year olds, it was mentioned that 19% of the fifties and over hadn't been vaccinated, that's a huge gap.
Then there's the unbelievers, many young, who firmly believe Covid doesn't exist, maybe 5% or perhaps many more who won't get vaccinated. Another hole in the defences.
Then there's all test and trace failings, the App that doesn't work well and the fact that 16% of the population don't own a smartphone so cannot co-operate with it.
So time to switch to co-operation. It worked for two world wars, once the people saw the need, they came forward in droves, volunteering to be killed. All we are asking for this time is that they avoid getting killed.
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"It doesn't matter what you say
'cause I'm against it anyway,
Whatever it is, I'm against it!"
Groucho of course
Perhaps try the more reliable test? My Daughter's partner has the virus and she tested negative on the flow test so has had the more stringent one.
I reckon if you plead insanity and quote the forum they are sure to give you one
(and maybe even the whatever it's name test that works too)
I don't think that like the "Wet paint, don't touch" signs this hasn't a snowflake in hell's chance of working
Did you post this a week or so too early?
Watching BJs press conference today I found the following stats given by PV and CW a little surprising. They said after two doses of the vaccine you had 50% protection from catching the virus. This was a lower figure than what I have seen in the past I am sure I had seen you had 70% protection from catching the virus.
They did however go on to say that a double dose of the vaccine gave you over 90% protection from having to go to hospital.
JA wrote on here recently that the ONS thought long covid was happening in around 13% of people who caught covid, does anyone know if you have both doses of the vaccine but still catch covid what are the chances of getting long covid?
If the answer to the above is still around 13%, then if we assume the advisors figures are correct and a double vaccine only provides 50% protection from actually catching the virus, and for the ones that are vaccinated but who do go on to catch the virus then if that is still 13% then that is an awful lot of people who are likely to get long covid once all restrictions have been removed.
They did however go on to say that a double dose of the vaccine gave you over 90% protection from having to go to hospital.
JA wrote on here recently that the ONS thought long covid was happening in around 13% of people who caught covid, does anyone know if you have both doses of the vaccine but still catch covid what are the chances of getting long covid?
If the answer to the above is still around 13%, then if we assume the advisors figures are correct and a double vaccine only provides 50% protection from actually catching the virus, and for the ones that are vaccinated but who do go on to catch the virus then if that is still 13% then that is an awful lot of people who are likely to get long covid once all restrictions have been removed.
Might be worth watching this - times definitely wrong for Wales!
Long Covid: Will I Ever Get Better?
Panorama
BBC correspondent Lucy Adams is one of more than a million people in the UK with long Covid. She speaks to other patients desperate to know when they will be well again.
12 July 2021
29 minutes
Today 19:35
BBC One except Northern Ireland, Northern Ireland HD, Wales & Wales HD
bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000xwjg
Note the confusion as to when and where it will be shown. Still, we can expect it in iPlayer sometime.
It has also been reported that the long Covid facilities which are supposed to exist are not working properly. People being turned away if they had not been hospitalised - no matter how bad they now are. Six months waiting list. And things like that.
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Nev.. unfortunately this is a moving target, and when the Delta variant was neglible, those figures of 90% were applicable. But as each week progresses, and it becomes the dominant strain, then the ratio changes. So with increased numbers of infections and increased variants, at what stage are the original recovery from an infection or the original vaccination status irrelevant.
The UK had the father and mother of a superspreader event , over the length and breath of the land yesterday, ..but we will know that next week.
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So you think what we've been doing has been working well?
And that we should continue doing it?
And that we should add another £300 billion to our national debt?
All to double the failure we've achieved so far?
You do realise that we've failed, don't you?
Remember, doing the same thing over and over while expecting a different result is the definition of madness.
And remember that I was told a year ago by large numbers of you that Sweden would suffer terribly from their policies that I advocate. They didn't, starting from the same point of failure, they ended up far better off than our 50% more deaths pro rata.
Of course asking for co-operation after bullying first won't work initially, we should have started that way. But since we are going to suffer a lot more anyway, we might as well put it to use teaching the public the hard way by letting them have control and know what they are responsible for doing.
It's called being cruel to be kind.
Enough snowflakes in hell could put the fire out.
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I posted the below over four months ago, note my 54% in paragraph 4.
Note what flecc says, not Vallance or Whitty. They are political animals who say what is expedient while keeping their crossed fingers hidden.
Brexit, for once some facts.
Singular? Surely not. Zlatan will never learn not to make What he regards as sly little digs,and everybody else thinks so bloody childish. This is too tempting are you asking for someone else to be added as well as yourself,zlatan?
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Ultimately less, but it could have been far less if they hadn't gone heavy handed last year.
But what's happened has gone, we can only alter the future as individuals. The days of it being shaped by throwing money at it are no longer possible.
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Just watched and made some notes:
33,000 children in UK have long Covid
1 in 8 progress from Covid to long Covid
A third had it more than a year
120,000 healthcare workers with long Covid
1 in 5 with long Covid struggle with memory or brainfog
I haven't said that, it's just your wrong interpretation of the impossible, imagining that it can be ignored.
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