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Jesus H Christ

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There is something awful about the way Handcock’s claw is placed on this bird’s arse. I can’t quite work out what makes it look so dreadful, but something definitely isn’t right.

How can the man possibly persuade the public to follow Covid safety measures after this? Guiding and leading the public through the pandemic is at the heart of his job. He simply had no credibility left to do that.
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can someone think of a reason as to why BJ hasn't sacked Jenrick, Patel, Williamson and now Hancock?
 
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can someone think of a reason as to why BJ hasn't sacked Jenrick, Patel, Williamson and now Hancock?
Because whatever legal, procedural or moral transgression any of them are guilty of, Boris Johnson is also guilty of the same unacceptable conduct, multiple times over and to a far greater extent.

I think the sacking threshold is now so high, it would take a disclosure of Catholic Priest scale kiddy fiddling to get fired. Maybe not even then if they sniffed half a chance of getting away with it.
 

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can someone think of a reason as to why BJ hasn't sacked Jenrick, Patel, Williamson and now Hancock?
The current main contender seems to be spineless. But "what have they got on him?" has got to be a possibility.

But I prefer the idea that he simply hasn't got anyone to put in their places. His coterie is spent and there aren't any new joiners.

Too stupid to realise that CCTV is recording seems to be a damned good reason for him to go.

But, as the aide's boss (in some way - after all he gave her the job), there are so many workplace relationship issues.
 
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Because whatever legal, procedural or moral transgression any of them are guilty of, Boris Johnson is also guilty of the same unacceptable conduct, multiple times over and to a far greater extent.

I think the sacking threshold is now so high, it would take a disclosure of Catholic Priest scale kiddy fiddling to get fired. Maybe not even then if they sniffed half a chance of getting away with it.
Reminds me of May before that fateful election when everyone said she could garrot the queen on live TV and still beat corbyn. Happily the court of public opinion is, glacialy, shifting.
 

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The current main contender seems to be spineless. But "what have they got on him?" has got to be a possibility.

But I prefer the idea that he simply hasn't got anyone to put in their places. His coterie is spent and there aren't any new joiners.

Too stupid to realise that CCTV is recording seems to be a damned good reason for him to go.

But, as the aide's boss (in some way - after all he gave her the job), there are so many workplace relationship issues.
Stating the bvious, but if I or anyone I can think of did it we'd be out of a job (and professional registration) in a week
 

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But I prefer the idea that he simply hasn't got anyone to put in their places. His coterie is spent and there aren't any new joiners.
He's not stuck for talent, here's 10 Tory MPs listed among the top 20 MPs in the Commons to watch:

Siobhan Baillie, Laura Trott, Dehenna Davison, Jonathan Gullis, Richard Holden, Saqib Bhatti, Miriam Cates, Danny Kruger, Alicia Kearns, Lee Anderson.

I suspect the trouble is that Boris is not comfortable in the company of more capable people.
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oyster

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Does this also apply to those who got Covid-19, and survived due to getting almost unavailable "compassionate use" medicines in Walter Reed hospital in Washington DC? That is, does previous infection have a greater or lesser protective effect than Pfizer vaccine?
 

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He's not stuck for talent, here's 10 Tory MPs listed among the top 20 MPs in the Commons to watch:

Siobhan Baillie, Laura Trott, Dehenna Davison, Jonathan Gullis, Richard Holden, Saqib Bhatti, Miriam Cates, Danny Kruger, Alicia Kearns, Lee Anderson.

I suspect the trouble is that Boris is not comfortable in the company of more capable people.
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How many of them are really Johnson-ites?
 
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He's not stuck for talent, here's 10 Tory MPs listed among the top 20 MPs in the Commons to watch:

Siobhan Baillie, Laura Trott, Dehenna Davison, Jonathan Gullis, Richard Holden, Saqib Bhatti, Miriam Cates, Danny Kruger, Alicia Kearns, Lee Anderson.

I suspect the trouble is that Boris is not comfortable in the company of more capable people.
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" listed among the top 20 MPs in the Commons to watch: "
Damned with faint praise, or has someone hacked into the CCTV and is that a comment on their sexual proclivity? o_O
 
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flecc

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I think he exploits more capable people as sidekicks to his buffoon character. To that extent, I think he does like them.
Only if they are "yes men" like the present bunch, and I dont see all of them as particularly capable. Matt Hancock, Chris Grayling and Priti Patel for example.
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