Brexit, for once some facts.

[oldgroaner]

Rupert Murdoch writes down value of Sun newspapers to zero
Move follows £200m loss caused by Covid-19 pandemic and one-off charges related to phone hacking

The only place where the demise of the Sun would be lamented is in on Building site Chemical toilets, where normal toilet rolls get "nicked" on a regular basis

 

[Danidl]

Ironic That Hancock sticks with it when one considers that this quick results testing was promoted by his arch critic, Dominic Cummings.

Frankly both the PCR and Lateral Flow tests are so unreliable they might as well stop all mass testing and save the many millions wasted doing it. Just PCR testing on hospital admissions together with death rates give all the information needed to know if we are gaining or losing in dealing with Covid-19, and that is all we need to know.
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Interesting.. this debate is getting an airing in our Dail this week. The Travel lobby are whinging that air travel is very restricted, into Ireland and want these antigen tests. Our CMO has given his opinion, and the travel lobby don't like it. It seems the FDA and our CMO sing from the same hymn sheet.

 

[POLLY]

Ironic That Hancock sticks with it when one considers that this quick results testing was promoted by his arch critic, Dominic Cummings.

Frankly both the PCR and Lateral Flow tests are so unreliable they might as well stop all mass testing and save the many millions wasted doing it. Just PCR testing on hospital admissions together with death rates give all the information needed to know if we are gaining or losing in dealing with Covid-19, and that is all we need to know.
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The pandemic is a 100% hoax

 

[Nev]

I've just been reading some rather worrying stats about the Delta (Indian) variant from an article in the guardian linked below. In summary:-
CV cases in England rising at their fastest rate since the winter wave.
96% of Covid cases in England are now down to the Delta variant.
The Delta variant appears to be 64% more transmissible that the Alpha (Kent) variant and twice as likely to lead to hospitalisations.
The Delta variant appears to be somewhat resistant to vaccines, particularly after just one dose.
Of the 42 deaths recorded in England within 28 days of a positive test involving the Delta variant, 23 individuals were unvaccinated, seven had received one dose, and 12 were fully vaccinated.
More details here
England’s lockdown easing on 21 June likely to be delayed by up to four weeks | Coronavirus | The Guardian

 

[POLLY]

I've just been reading some rather worrying stats about the Delta (Indian) variant from an article in the guardian linked below. In summary:-
CV cases in England rising at their fastest rate since the winter wave.
96% of Covid cases in England are now down to the Delta variant.
The Delta variant appears to be 64% more transmissible that the Alpha (Kent) variant and twice as likely to lead to hospitalisations.
The Delta variant appears to be somewhat resistant to vaccines, particularly after just one dose.
Of the 42 deaths recorded in England within 28 days of a positive test involving the Delta variant, 23 individuals were unvaccinated, seven had received one dose, and 12 were fully vaccinated.
More details here
England’s lockdown easing on 21 June likely to be delayed by up to four weeks | Coronavirus | The Guardian

The pandemic is a 100% hoax

 

[Danidl]

The pandemic is a 100% hoax

tiresome

 

[POLLY]

tiresome

tiresome, but true.

 

[Kenny]

The pandemic is a 100% hoax

Polly, if you’ve got nothing new to add please GTF.
Many of us enjoy this thread.

 

[POLLY]

Polly, if you’ve got nothing new to add please GTF.
Many of us enjoy this thread.

The pandemic is a 100% hoax, True.

 

[flecc]

tiresome

Polly, if you’ve got nothing new to add please GTF.
Many of us enjoy this thread.

Do what I've done, hover over the name POLLY on the left of one of his posts and click the middle Ignore option.

Then close and reopen your browser and you'll not see POLLY's original posts any more, they'll all permanently vanish (unless someone quotes one). As far as I'm concerned he's no longer here.
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[oldgroaner]

An Irish View on the G7
EU gives Johnson a reason to be constructive on NI protocol Cost to the UK of failing to find a way forward will be more than a few sausages

And my view?

To have any hope of making Brexit work we might as well sacrifice the sausages to the discworld Crocodile God Offler.

 

[sjpt]

Do what I've done, hover over the name POLLY on the left of one of his posts and click the middle Ignore option.

Then close and reopen your browser and you'll not see POLLY's original posts any more, they'll all permanently vanish (unless someone quotes one). As far as I'm concerned he's no longer here.
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Good point, thanks. No need to close/open the browser, refresh should do it (F5 on most computer browsers).

 

[oyster]

Just received this email:

Peter – or Baron, as for now we must call him – Cruddas was once a Treasurer of the Conservative Party.

In March 2012 the Sunday Times published a rather mean piece about him which included the claim that (as the Court put it) “in return for cash donations to the Conservative Party, [he] corruptly offered for sale the opportunity to influence government policy and gain unfair advantage through secret meetings with the Prime Minister and other senior ministers.”

He sued the Sunday Times for defamation and, to be fair to him, he won but the Court of Appeal also said the claim above was substantially true. As a candidate for a great honour you would think he was, well, you would think he was an odd one.

On the other hand, he is Very Rich. And he has given quite a lot of money to the Conservative Party: over £3m. He gave a quarter of a million quid to them on 10 January 2020 and a few weeks later it emerged he’d been nominated as a Baron by Boris Johnson.

He was crowned, or whatever happens to them, ‘Baron’ Cruddas on 2 February 2021 and a few days later, on 5 February 2021, he gave the Tories another half a million. We’re not saying any of this was pre-arranged – there’s no evidence of that and buying and selling peerages is a crime – but the timing of it all is, well, it is odd.

Given his past record, the House of Lords Appointments Commission thought he wasn’t the kind of man we should be giving a peerage to. And it advised Boris Johnson not to make him a Baron. But Boris did anyway – making history by ignoring the Appointments Commission for the first time ever.

We don’t only think it is odd. We also think it is unlawful. We think a fair-minded and informed observer, presented with the facts of the matter, would conclude that there was a real possibility or danger of bias in the Defendant’s decision making. We also think that the Prime Minister took legally irrelevant considerations – past donations and the prospect of future donations – into account in making him a Baron.

And so we’re suing. We’ve instructed Bindmans LLP, Dan Squires QC and Alice Irving. You can read our letter here.

Make no mistake, we intend to issue proceedings. But this time, we’re not setting up a crowdfunder. What we’d really like you to do instead is (1) sign our petition calling for him to be stripped of his peerage and (2) share this update with your friends and family.

 

[daveboy]

New Yorkshire Mayor is Tracy Brabin. So that will force a by-election. If Labour lose
the seat is it the end for Keir Starmer?

It's going to be close..

 

[oyster]

Johnson's behaviour in Cornwall/G7 probably won't do him any favours.

 

[oldgroaner]

I really don't know how to feel about this...

End of the line? How Brexit left Hull’s fishing industry facing extinction The Kirkella, the distant-water trawler owned by UK Fisheries that has been forced to stop operating since Brexit. The Kirkella, the distant-water super trawler owned by UK Fisheries that has been forced to stop operating since Brexit. Photograph: UK Fisheries Ltd/PA The UK’s departure from the EU was supposed to reinvigorate our fishing industry. Instead, it has forced the country’s last distant-water trawler to sit idle

Unhappy is as near as I can put it

 

[oldgroaner]

Johnson's behaviour in Cornwall/G7 probably won't do him any favours.

Or the rest of us either

 

[oldgroaner]

Just received this email:

Peter – or Baron, as for now we must call him – Cruddas was once a Treasurer of the Conservative Party.

In March 2012 the Sunday Times published a rather mean piece about him which included the claim that (as the Court put it) “in return for cash donations to the Conservative Party, [he] corruptly offered for sale the opportunity to influence government policy and gain unfair advantage through secret meetings with the Prime Minister and other senior ministers.”

He sued the Sunday Times for defamation and, to be fair to him, he won but the Court of Appeal also said the claim above was substantially true. As a candidate for a great honour you would think he was, well, you would think he was an odd one.

On the other hand, he is Very Rich. And he has given quite a lot of money to the Conservative Party: over £3m. He gave a quarter of a million quid to them on 10 January 2020 and a few weeks later it emerged he’d been nominated as a Baron by Boris Johnson.

He was crowned, or whatever happens to them, ‘Baron’ Cruddas on 2 February 2021 and a few days later, on 5 February 2021, he gave the Tories another half a million. We’re not saying any of this was pre-arranged – there’s no evidence of that and buying and selling peerages is a crime – but the timing of it all is, well, it is odd.

Given his past record, the House of Lords Appointments Commission thought he wasn’t the kind of man we should be giving a peerage to. And it advised Boris Johnson not to make him a Baron. But Boris did anyway – making history by ignoring the Appointments Commission for the first time ever.

We don’t only think it is odd. We also think it is unlawful. We think a fair-minded and informed observer, presented with the facts of the matter, would conclude that there was a real possibility or danger of bias in the Defendant’s decision making. We also think that the Prime Minister took legally irrelevant considerations – past donations and the prospect of future donations – into account in making him a Baron.

And so we’re suing. We’ve instructed Bindmans LLP, Dan Squires QC and Alice Irving. You can read our letter here.

Make no mistake, we intend to issue proceedings. But this time, we’re not setting up a crowdfunder. What we’d really like you to do instead is (1) sign our petition calling for him to be stripped of his peerage and (2) share this update with your friends and family.

He looks like one of the Vogon guards from "The Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy"

 

[oyster]

Or the rest of us either

It's got to the point where that goes without saying.

Shame Welsh voters aren't able to vote in Batley and Spen. It isn't just once, or twice, it is almost every time he opens his gob he screws it up with at least one of NI, S and/or W.

 

[oyster]

He looks like one of the Vogon guards from "The Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy"

Not a valid basis for disqualification.