Brexit, for once some facts.

[Zlatan]

How are we going to pay everyone a universal income? Who is going to pay the taxes?
This country can't even function without 10 million immigrants and my street (Queens Road) is still full of holes waiting to be filled.

Is there a connection? Hope not..

 

[Woosh]

Is there a connection? Hope not..

no connection. Just my usual rant - nothing works to my satisfaction: my street is full of holes and empty cans, crisp wrapping, rubbish bags left out on the wrong day etc. There is no more free parking anywhere in town, not even in public parks. The council is desparate to raise funds any way it can. I tried to ring my GP surgery for an appointment, they didn't answer this morning. I called back this afternoon: "your call is very important for us but you are 9th in the queue". I'll try again tomorrow.

 

[oldgroaner]

And for some odd reason you seem to think calling the electorate stupid is going to help?

No actually but then there isn't any help is there?
You've said so yourself ad nauseum

 

[flecc]

How are we going to pay everyone a universal income? Who is going to pay the taxes?
This country can't even function without 10 million immigrants and my street (Queens Road) is still full of holes waiting to be filled.

You really need to take off the blinkers and think outside the box in radical ways.

The country will still be as productive and probably even more so.

Ergo the same or more money is coming in and can be evenly distributed into tax requirements and the standard equal incomes for all.

And the potholes can be filled instead of filling tax haven accounts.

All without work dominating lives as it does now.

Here's a sobering thought:

The structure of our lives is almost the same as it was in medieval times. Don't you think that it's about time it changed in the way so much else has radically changed?
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[flecc]

no connection. Just my usual rant - nothing works to my satisfaction: my street is full of holes and empty cans, crisp wrapping, rubbish bags left out on the wrong day etc. There is no more free parking anywhere in town, not even in public parks. The council is desparate to raise funds any way it can. I tried to ring my GP surgery for an appointment, they didn't answer this morning. I called back this afternoon: "your call is very important for us but you are 9th in the queue". I'll try again tomorrow.

Don't take any notice of Jesus H Christ, it's much better in France. Hopefully you wouldn't get this there:

"votre appel est très important pour nous mais vous êtes 9ème dans la file"
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[Zlatan]

You really need to take off the blinkers and think outside the box in radical ways.

The country will still be as productive and probably even more so.

Ergo the same or more money is coming in and can be evenly distributed into tax requirements and the standard equal incomes for all.

And the potholes can be filled instead of filling tax haven accounts.

All without work dominating lives as it does now.

Here's a sobering thought:

The structure of our lives is almost the same as it was in medieval times. Don't you think that it's about time it changed in the way so much else has radically changed?
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Do you think much work would get done Flecc. Paying people with option to work or not reckon I, d chose no work... But I am lazy and can find infinite number of ways to pass my time.
They do say to fully appreciate doing nothing you must have loads to get done.???

 

[Jesus H Christ]

And for some odd reason you seem to think calling the electorate stupid is going to help?
All you are doing is polarising opinion and unfortunately for you, JA and Labour setting people against the very principles, policies and people you value.
I kerp telling you, it's exactly why Labour are in such a mess.. Tell people they are stupid then expect them to agree with ideas you put forward. That is the epitome of stupid and shows zero understanding of the most basic of human behaviours. You are simply reinforcing the negative aspects of labour you try to deny.
Its like OGS phoning Haaland up, tell him he, s stupid, knows nothing about football but will you play for us. He, d do what labour voters have done. Tell him to feck off and sign for somebody else.
Bet you were a nightmare to work with. Insult all your colleagues, tell them they are stupid and know nowt about "toilets" but by the way will you work over time.
Doesn't work like that OG.
No politician is ever going to gain votes or support by telling electorate they need to change or that they need "educating" or "they need to take our medicine" and then expect support.

Explain it to him in toilet economics.

If Twyfords Toilets call Ideal Toilet’s customers stupid idiots for buying Ideal’s products, they aren’t going to sell many toilets. It would be much better if Twyfords produced a superior, attractively priced toilet to lure Ideal’s customers away. Substitute Labour and Conservative into the above and you have the current political situation.

 

[Jesus H Christ]

Don't take any notice of Jesus H Christ, it's much better in France. Hopefully you wouldn't get this there:

"votre appel est très important pour nous mais vous êtes 9ème dans la file"
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It’s alright around here.

 

[flecc]

Do you think much work would get done Flecc. Paying people with option to work or not reckon I, d chose no work... But I am lazy and can find infinite number of ways to pass my time.
They do say to fully appreciate doing nothing you must have loads to get done.???

A misunderstanding, there's no choice not to work. Remember what I posted about the work distribution, one of the options being a period of national service, but at work not military service. Everyone would have to do their share, but that share would be far less than the lifetime it is now.
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[flecc]

It’s alright around here.

Jack.
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[Danidl]

Don't take any notice of Jesus H Christ, it's much better in France. Hopefully you wouldn't get this there:

"votre appel est très important pour nous mais vous êtes 9ème dans la file"
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Not with Orange France Telecom it ain't. I gave up on them after 17 flustrating years, ... Free is my telecom provider of choice.

 

[flecc]

Not with Orange France Telecom it ain't. I gave up on them after 17 flustrating years,

That must be the longest wait ever for someone to answer a call.
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[Nev]

Under 30s to be offered alternative vaccine to AZ.
Under-30s in UK should be offered alternative Covid vaccine to AstraZeneca jab, says regulator | Vaccines and immunisation | The Guardian

 

[Nev]

How are we going to pay everyone a universal income? Who is going to pay the taxes?

Dead simple, I suggest vfr can cover the cost for the rest of us out for the profit he makes from all the houses he lets out and all the shares he owns that have shot up in price.

 

[Woosh]

Under 30s to be offered alternative vaccine to AZ.
Under-30s in UK should be offered alternative Covid vaccine to AstraZeneca jab, says regulator | Vaccines and immunisation | The Guardian

under 30: why not extend it to all women under 40? or under 50 even?
Is it just a matter of cost? then make the Moderna vaccine available to buy at pharmacies.

 

[flecc]

Under 30s to be offered alternative vaccine to AZ.
Under-30s in UK should be offered alternative Covid vaccine to AstraZeneca jab, says regulator | Vaccines and immunisation | The Guardian

Justifies the stance in Mainland Europe, despite the anti-EU anti-France bile in here.
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[Jesus H Christ]

Jack.
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Not really. I just take responsibility for myself.

 

[Danidl]

That must be the longest wait ever for someone to answer a call.
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You had better believe it...

 

[Zlatan]

Uk dropped to 12th in Europe on covid death rate today. Its on virtuallysame as Italy at moment,where covid took 627 peoples' lives (Italy 1861,UK1862 deaths per million)
Italy will pass UK tomorrow.
Rather grim records around much of Europe at moment.

 

[Woosh]

This is the chart used by our government.
I wonder how the potential benefit and harm is calculated.
Any idea?