where did you get the figure of 15 million doses from?
the right wing press propaganda?
even if the figure is correct, how many days of stock does the 15 millions represent? go on, do the maths.
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the right wing press propaganda?
even if the figure is correct, how many days of stock does the 15 millions represent? go on, do the maths.
The figure is from the BBC.
When you have 15 000 000 unused items in the cupboard, you can’t claim there is a shortage.
Does it include Pfizer stock? Quote the link if you can.
their population: 512,596,403
15M / 512M = 3%
At the beginning of the vaccination, we have stock of 20+ million doses for 65 million people.
Compare the two.
totally unjustified.
France is a couple of months behind us at the moment and will catch up rapidly in 2-3 months.
Correction, hospitalization and deaths are falling, but infection is not (or at least, not significantly). I fear that with the natural lag cases->hospitalization->deaths we will see hospitalization and deaths levelling out pretty soon too. Still, I am pretty sure that the level will be well below the level would have been without the vaccination program.
If the masses buy into programme. Refusal rate was estimated at 51%, yep a poll and we all know what they are like, but all the adverse information around vaccines in general and AZ specifically could have a massive bearing.
Infection could be falling, as numbers drop we have relatively loads more testing capacity.. More testing finds more positive results. The important figures are ONS sample studies and hospitalisation.Correction, hospitalization and deaths are falling, but infection is not (or at least, not significantly). I fear that with the natural lag cases->hospitalization->deaths we will see hospitalization and deaths levelling out pretty soon too. Still, I am pretty sure that the level will be well below the level would have been without the vaccination program.
You can't really use the number found by NHS TandT as a guide.
And, as posted earlier, it is first time in months we have had zero in ICU.. I suspect that is vaccines working. (ICU was still filling as last wave subsided, folk in care homes etc) So far signs are good. But early days.
Where did you get your facts from?
Up to the end of last week, France received 9.3 million doses (Pfizer + AZ), all used except 1.2 million doses in reserve and that includes Pfizer.
The number of infections per day is still falling.Correction, hospitalization and deaths are falling, but infection is not (or at least, not significantly). I fear that with the natural lag cases->hospitalization->deaths we will see hospitalization and deaths levelling out pretty soon too. Still, I am pretty sure that the level will be well below the level would have been without the vaccination program.
France is a shambles. They have totally unjustified doubts over the Oxford vaccine. That’s now a massive barrier to vaccine take up.
They are now facing a headwind of infections raging out of control. Another barrier to vaccination.
They won’t catch up. Too much indecision, fannying about and vaccine politics.
"The EU is in desperate need of our help at this time and the U.K. should do what it always does, put aside personal dislike and help those in need.. ". Since the UK has exported no vaccine, but instead has imported around half its current usage from the EU, that seems a strange statement. Moreover they are now planning on importing from India. . In what way would you justify it?. While not going into specifics, I think it also imports the glass bottles . I do understand that the UK exports one of the adjuncts used in the vaccines manufactured in the EU.
Just heard on LBC that a poll in France has revealed that only 20% of those asked said they would accept the Oxford vaccine!
The treacherous oily pigmy has done a magnificent job.
The treacherous oily pigmy has done a magnificent job.
Only a predicted 20% take up of Oxford vaccine in France after Micron, Von-Trap and the Unfuckable German Pig have systematically undermined confidence in it. It’s probably similar in other countries within the EU.
What’s the point in it going into the EU to sit in a cupboard with the other 15,000,000 unused doses? They EU should stop using the Oxford vaccine and free up doses for places where it will be used.
opinion without fact = signs of a closed mind.
Is that why we jumped in first so we could get the vaccine first and deny it to others?
How was that helping others?
Was it hell as like it was a desperate act by a government panicking not so much about the 120,000 dead as salvaging it's own deservedly tattered reputation
Even Cummings described them as a disaster zone, than managed to make it worse.
Do you imagine for a moment that after the arrogance and lying this government has been committing internationally, anyone other nations doesn't see that act as utterly negating our promises of helping others?
So we aren't blocking export of vaccines for political reasons?
First we don't export any
Second other nations are aware we are embargoing export of 100 Covid treatment related Drugs and have been for some time.
And trying (far too late as everyone is aware of it) to avoid mentioning that fact.
No one outside this country has any reason to trust anything we say, and we have our government, particularly the Blond Wurzel Gummidge tribute act in charge.
Its variable. My previous one was ok with me after the first jab and would probably have taken me without, but another I'd tried first wouldn't accept me at all at my high risk age.
There doesn't seem to be any strong enough ruling guidance.
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They Dutch were saying very similar.
Most asked said they were unsure about vaccine, would not have AZ but might Pfizer.
I suppose folk change when they roll up at centre as they do when they roll up at polling booths. We won't know for a few months but I wouldn't bet on Vaccine's working in much of EU?
Woosh a few corrections.. AZ promised and committed to 100% in the EU. ,with due dates etc last August. They then admitted in January that they could at best deliver 40% and with revised delivery dates, Then subsequently have failed to deliver and if they are hitting 30% of schedule its a good week. At present EU average is about 90% Pfizer and 10% AZ.. For various reasons , Ireland having a younger healthcare workforce was running at a higher AZ percentage. 130k/480k . 95% of AZ vaccine is used within a week of its arrival in Ireland.