Brexit, for once some facts.

[Wicky]

Are you cheering them on while they gradually remove your personal liberties, while unelected oligarchs march on with their Great Reset that will have a profound effect on your life? It doesn't bother me because I'm not really invested in the future. I'm just an observer.

Parler reportedly removed posts by Trump affiliate Lin Wood calling for execution of VP Mike Pence | TechCrunch

It seems that even the "free speech" social network Parler has its limits. The social network that has attracted scores of conservative commentators

techcrunch.com

It seems that even the “free speech” social network Parler has its limits.

The social network that has attracted scores of conservative commentators because of its commitment to free speech has taken down several posts from Trump affiliate Lin Wood, according to a report in Mediaite.

In one of the posts removed from the social media platform, Wood called for the execution of Vice President Mike Pence

 

[Woosh]

Would he actually have done anything different? Not really.

he would have done these things a lot sooner.
That's the difference. Some may call it intelligence.
Work out what needs doing and quickly in time of crisis.
Johnson has the info well before Starmer and still could not make the needed decisions.
Remember how Johnson got the job: he won the beauty contest with the brexiters. He does not have to compete with Starmer on intelligence, until 2024.

 

[flecc]

I think it quite possible she might have come across as a more humane and caring HS than the current one.

As her cared for constituents already know and why they won't consider anyone else.
.

 

[Nev]

One of the Covid models suggests 1 in 5 people in England have had the virus. The big survey ONS does every week does not agree with this prediction. It's difficult to know just what is going on, anyone got any idea?
One in five in England have had Covid, modelling suggests | World news | The Guardian

 

[Zlatan]

he would have done these things a lot sooner.
That's the difference. Some may call it intelligence.
Work out what needs doing and quickly in time of crisis.
Johnson has the info well before Starmer and still could not make the needed decisions.
Remember how Johnson got the job: he won the beauty contest with the brexiters. He does not have to compete with Starmer on intelligence, until 2024.

I suspect that might have altered our position towards that of France but nothing like either Germany or more to the point New Zealand.
With correct safeguards in place and a tried and tested large scale test and trace system developed over last 10 years and with correct enforcement (and payment) legislation there is no reason why we couldn't have coped on a par with New Zealand. Next time we might have to. Imagine Covid19 with a 10% death rate and no vaccine. That could be around corner. If it is the case entire EU would literally be decimated. We need far more than locking down a few days earlier.

 

[vfr400]

You could ring the Samaritans, they help people like that all the time.

Yes, they help a lot of people, but the ones they help still have their lives ahead of them. Some of us are a lost cause.

 

[vfr400]

"The FBI have posted photos everywhere asking for help to identify the people who went into the building,"

Bit odd that if Trump et al believe the mob was "99.9%" Antifa

"all the photos are of larpers in Trump hats :"

So now they're not antifa but Ricky Gervais and the cast of Extras doing an honest day's work.

"In the background of nearly every photo are guys in ninja suits totally unrecognisable. "

Well there was this armed numpty win tactical gear with zip-ties who had the foresight to cover himself with various insignia which made it easier to pin who he was. So is he really Antifa, a bit part actor or one of 'them' or simply a faithful Trumpite obeying orders.

Did he have the laptop?

 

[vfr400]

I'd suggest less passive than that - you have a peculiar avid interest in alt-right conspiracy theories, and figures i.e Katie H and her sidekick TR along with promoting their views, misinformation and means of accessing them at every opportunity.

I'm not interested in them. I'm interested in what happened to them. When things don't add up, it's like an itch. I have to keep looking 'til I figure it out. I have the big picture now. All these things ended up related to each other. This coming year will be interesting. I'm not a financial adviser, so don't take this as advice, but I wouldn't want my finances to be dependent on private pension nor would I want to be holding too much cash or equities. Have you seen what's happened to Bitcoin. I wonder why that is?

 

[vfr400]

Parler reportedly removed posts by Trump affiliate Lin Wood calling for execution of VP Mike Pence | TechCrunch

It seems that even the "free speech" social network Parler has its limits. The social network that has attracted scores of conservative commentators

techcrunch.com

It seems that even the “free speech” social network Parler has its limits.

The social network that has attracted scores of conservative commentators because of its commitment to free speech has taken down several posts from Trump affiliate Lin Wood, according to a report in Mediaite.

In one of the posts removed from the social media platform, Wood called for the execution of Vice President Mike Pence

They're all on Telegram now. That didn't take long. Wack-a-mole eh! Telegram is privately owned (in Russia IIRC) and it's encrypted, so, if they're quick, they can stop people putting on their iphones, but they're going to struggle to get anything else done by the 20th. Let's wait and see what they come up with.

What did Mike Pence do?

 

[Danidl]

I'm not interested in them. I'm interested in what happened to them. When things don't add up, it's like an itch. I have to keep looking 'til I figure it out. I have the big picture now. All these things ended up related to each other. This coming year will be interesting. I'm not a financial adviser, so don't take this as advice, but I wouldn't want my finances to be dependent on private pension nor would I want to be holding too much cash or equities. Have you seen what's happened to Bitcoin. I wonder why that is?

Don't flatter yourself.. you omitted to respond to the plausible scenario I provided for last Wednesdays event, so your itch has scabbed over

 

[oldgroaner]

Yes, they help a lot of people, but the ones they help still have their lives ahead of them. Some of us are a lost cause.

That makes two of us my friend, but it's better to go with a snarl than a whimper

 

[Jesus H Christ]

One of the Covid models suggests 1 in 5 people in England have had the virus. The big survey ONS does every week does not agree with this prediction. It's difficult to know just what is going on, anyone got any idea?
One in five in England have had Covid, modelling suggests | World news | The Guardian

I was discussing this the other day. I don‘t use Facebook much, but I know quite a few people with 200 -300 friends in there. A discussion going around on FB and people are asking their friends who’s had Covid-19. They are getting about 2 positive responses. That’s had COVID-19, not got it now. Now I know this is Facebook, but the people in question aren’t conspiracy theorists. It seems very queer that if 1 in 50 have Covid now and 1 in 3 are supposed to have had it, that they aren’t getting more positive responses. The same results seem to be widespread.

Only 5 people known personally to me have had Covid.

 

[oyster]

I was discussing this. I don‘t use Facebook much, but people I know with 200 -300 friends have asked who’s had Covid-19. They are getting about 2 positive responses. That’s had COVID-19, not got it now. it seems very queer.

I am on a health-related forum quite regularly. The numbers who are reporting it now seem much higher than they have ever previously been.

About 10,000 at least occasionally active members. Probably about 1,000 regularly so. And, at a guess, something like half a dozen now. And a string of reports going back to January. Even a couple of possibilities from 2019. Because it isn't a Covid-19 forum in any way, many members might simply not say anything. And quite a number are being extremely careful because they percieve themselves to be especially susceptible. Especially if they had it mildly and maybe didn't get a test (lots of reports have no test associated for various reasons). Or if they became so ill they are in hospital or died. Number of Long Covid claims has also gone up.

(Not suggesting any members are being intentionally dishonest. But we can all misinterpret things.)

However, one of the things many members do is take vitamin D. If it has even a little bit of the impact some have claimed, perhaps that has reduced the illness level?

I think I have more faith in https://covid.joinzoe.com/ than many really official sources.

On their map, I see:

• Region
  Pembrokeshire
• Number of contributors
  2165
• Active cases per million people (estimated)
  18953
• Number of active cases (estimated)
  2340

 

[oyster]

Should have been stripped years ago. Or never offered it. His record of cheating is an open not-secret. What is often called bringing a sport into disrepute.

In blow to Trump, golf’s PGA strips major championship from Trump-owned course
The 2022 PGA Championship will no longer be held at Trump Bedminster.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/blow-trump-golfs-pga-strip-major-championship-trump/story?id=75168540

 

[oldgroaner]

Even the Telegraph is getting on the Get Trump bandwagon

So now anything that pleases Biden replaces anything that pleased Trump.
What will the Leave Cabal toss over the side of their previous "principles" to get that FTA
May I suggest send Farage to the USA? that should be worth some Brownie points

 

[oyster]

May I suggest send Farage to the USA?

Nowhere near far enough. Ask Elon Musk if he has a spare seat...

 

[oldgroaner]

Even the congenital liar Hannan has been recruited for the Biden courtship attempt
"You don't like my principles?
I have others"
Groucho Marx...who else?

Before

After

The difference eh, and he forgets that the tawdry, half arsed and grotesque coup attempt he was part of succeeded

What would this slimeball have said had Trump succeeded?

 

[oyster]

What would this slimeball have said had Trump succeeded?

Simple! Anything Trump wanted or would ingratiate him with Trump.

 

[Zlatan]

I was discussing this the other day. I don‘t use Facebook much, but I know quite a few people with 200 -300 friends in there. A discussion going around on FB and people are asking their friends who’s had Covid-19. They are getting about 2 positive responses. That’s had COVID-19, not got it now. Now I know this is Facebook, but the people in question aren’t conspiracy theorists. It seems very queer that if 1 in 50 have Covid now and 1 in 3 are supposed to have had it, that they aren’t getting more positive responses. The same results seem to be widespread.

Only 5 people known personally to me have had Covid.

Perhaps numbers are emphasised (exaggerated?) as a defence mechanism.??? Keeps us more indoors?
A few weeks ago I was driving to coast. Three motorbikes came tearing past and at next bend one ran into a deer. I pulled up to help, rider was trapped under bike, myself and his 2 mates lifted bike off him, phoned ambulance etc etc. Turns out all 3 worked at some hospital and one of chaps plainly new what he was doing. One a nurse, other 2 porters.
Whilst checking on bloke nurse said to chap in Road,
"don't f....ing die, they will put you down as Covid!"???

 

[oldgroaner]

For the Brexit voters

Where are the sunny uplands?