Brexit, for once some facts.

oldgroaner

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They just can't stop themselves!

Like those suffering from compulsive eating syndromes, once they see a trough...

Carrie Symonds' friend Nimco Ali given Home Office role without it being advertised
£350-a-day position as government adviser made via ‘direct appointment process’
A close friend of the prime minister and his fiancee was given an official position at the Home Office without the role being publicly advertised, a freedom of information request has revealed.

Nimco Ali, who is reportedly godmother to the son of Carrie Symonds and Boris Johnson, was appointed adviser on tackling violence against women and girls in October.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/dec/05/carrie-symonds-close-friend-nimco-ali-given-350-a-day-government-role
Isn’t it nice to have friends when you live in a Chumocracy?
 

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All those Flowers and Bulbs that fill our Florists & Supermarkets 365 days a year come from Holland all produced by private growers with the help of Gov subsidies, It runs throughout industry and always did.
If you can produce a product that's unique to your country and that it's famous for you can get state aid. I wonder how much the Scots get for kilt production ? Anyone can make a Cornish Pasty with the right ingredients but there's only one proper Scottish Kilt.....och aye !
You are correct, there is one proper kilt but it isn't the Victorian travesty of traditional Highland dress that you are probably thinking of.
I'm not sure if you are aware but no Scot uses the expression "Och aye". Harry Lauder has a lot to answer for. ;)
 

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I've got a pal who comes from Glasgow his accent is really strong. Some years ago he got nicked for getting up to some kind of mischief cant remember what and the law down at the nick couldn't understand a word he was talking.
They actually had to call in a Scots interpreter (is there such a person?) to decode what he was saying :D
 
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The fallout from brexit just keeps on falling out of the sky. So to speak.

Military planes to fly vaccines in to Britain to avoid ports hit by Brexit

Officials fear delays even after EU deal as Boris Johnson and Ursula von der Leyen order talks to resume
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/dec/05/military-planes-to-fly-vaccines-in-to-britain-to-avoid-ports-hit-by-brexit

Will they use these?

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Just thinking about the Sunderlands used for the Berlin airlift - this one near Gatow - would be wonderful. Largely because I'd love to see and hear one!

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Or Johnson's UNITED KINGDOM paintjob?

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“We’ve been holding street parties and firing rockets at our city’s most iconic buildings in the middle of a global pandemic. Now we’ve all got coronavirus, can we have some free money?” Said the Labour Mayor.

Liverpool's mayor Joe Anderson has been arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to commit bribery and witness intimidation.

Oh dear.
Also Derek Hatton !!!

Four other men have also been arrested in connection with bribery and witness intimidation allegations.
They include Derek Hatton, 72,


Lol, what a shower, they deserve each other... waste-of-space
 

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Two front pages - courtesy of BBC News



The Queen is set to receive the coronavirus vaccine "within weeks" and will publicly reveal she has had it to boost take-up of the jab, according to the Mail on Sunday's splash. The paper cites senior sources who insist the 94-year-old monarch and her husband, the Duke of Edinburgh, 99, will not get "preferential treatment" and will "wait in line" during the first wave of injections set aside for the over-80s and care home residents. Public health experts are said to believe that if the royal couple reveal they have had the jab, it could help to combat misinformation, which it is feared, could lead to a "substantial proportion" of the population refusing a vaccine.
The Sunday People says plans to vaccinate elderly care home residents against coronavirus have been thrown into "chaos" after they were told they would have to travel by bus to hospital hubs for the jabs. The paper quotes "angry" care bosses who say "there is no way" care home residents will be able to do this.
Can we expect to see QE get on a bus to get her vaccination?
 

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Respect Millwall fans?

Millwall fans who booed players taking a knee 'should be respected', says Eustice
Environment minister says Black Lives Matter should be seen as ‘political movement’
 

Barry Shittpeas

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Respect Millwall fans?

Millwall fans who booed players taking a knee 'should be respected', says Eustice
Environment minister says Black Lives Matter should be seen as ‘political movement’
I hate football, but was pleased to hear that Millwall were booing this Black Lives Matter nonsense. It is a racist & political movement based on fiction.
 
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RossG

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I see uncle Joe across the pond can't resist having another dig at the UK and it's covid vaccine. He's saying he can't see how it's going to be successfully delivered from it's cryogenic tank to the arm, can't be done.
I like Biden, I just hope he doesn't turn out to be a pain. He'll need to understand we do things our own way over here.....usually the wrong way but there you go that's us.
 

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I hate football, but was pleased to hear that Millwall were booing this Black Lives Matter nonsense. It is a racist & political movement based on fiction.
Wrong. Taking the knee in our league football is not a part of the BLM movement. Their visual protest was adopted as a handy way to protest against the very real racism expressed by football crowds with chants and direct abuse of black players. This has been going on for many years and existed long before the BLM movement was created as all the government and FA protests against it over the years bear witness.

Since you say you hate football and presumably don't watch it, either out of ignorance you presume this racism doesn't exist or you deny it for racist reasons.

Those of us who do watch football live or on TV have long been aware from seeing it how real and vile in nature this racism is, so support any action which exposes it as utterly repulsive and totally unacceptable. No one should ever be abused for the colour of the skin they were born with.

We had hoped that this protest action would result in the racism disappearing, enabling the taking to knee to stop. Sadly it seems a few Millwall fans want to stay true to their past unacceptably racist behaviour.

I do agree with you that in some other areas unaffected by racism that taking the knee is overtly political. Hamilton taking it into Formula One for example was in no way justified since Formula One has never suffered from racism, least of all against him with all the privileges it has afforded him to display his talent since a very young age.

But our league football has long suffered horrendous degrees of racism from supporters against black players and often extending far beyond. As for example when Chelsea fans forced a black Parisian man off a Paris Metro train while chanting racist slogans, leaving him feeling utterly humiliated.

Fortunately after the French police traced them they were prosecuted in court here in England and received bans on attending matches for up five years. The Chelsea club has additionally banned them for life and one lost his job in financial services.

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Wrong. Taking the knee in our league football is not a part of the BLM movement. Their visual protest was adopted as a handy way to protest against the very real racism expressed by football crowds with chants and direct abuse of black players. This has been going on for many years and existed long before the BLM movement was created as all the government and FA protests against it over the years bear witness.

Since you say you hate football and presumably don't watch it, either out of ignorance you presume this racism doesn't exist or you deny it for racist reasons.

Those of us who do watch football live or on TV have long been aware from seeing it how real and vile in nature this racism is, so support any action who exposes it as utterly repulsive and totally unacceptable. No one should ever be abused for the colour of the skin they were born with.

We had hoped that this protest action would result in the racism disappearing, enabling the taking to knee to stop. Sadly it seems a few Millwall fans want to stay true to their past unacceptably racist behaviour.

I do agree with you that in some other areas unaffected by racism that taking the knee is overtly political. Hamilton taking it into Formula One for example was in no way justified since Formula One has never suffered from racism, least of all against him with all the privileges it has afforded him to display his talent since a very young age.

But our league football has long suffered horrendous degrees of racism from supporters against black players and often extending far beyond. As for example when Chelsea fans forced a black Parisian man off a Paris Metro train while chanting racist slogans, leaving him feeling utterly humiliated.

Fortunately after the French police traced them they were prosecuted in court here in England and received bans on attending matches for up five years. The Chelsea club has additionally banned them for life.

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I think racism in football has reduced, but not disappeared. There is still some work to do.

The knee business has been hijacked by BLM, which definitely is a vile racist movement.

Hamilton did suffer racism earlier in his career. Spanish audiences did the complete routine, bananas and monkey noises. That was at the time he was trouncing Alonso, but not acceptable.

The knee is a politically symbol now, it needs to be stopped. BLM should be classed as a prescribed terrorist organisation.

There is genuine racism, I don’t deny that. Attention and actions should be focused on ending it.
 

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I hate football, but was pleased to hear that Millwall were booing this Black Lives Matter nonsense. It is a racist & political movement based on fiction.
If the Millwall fans should be respected for booing, why not respect the players taking a knee?

If Eustice is booed every time he tries to say anything , anywhere, from now on, I'll not be surprised. As a politician and having claimed that booing is a part of a political movement against the knee takers, he'll not have a leg (or knee) to stand on were he to complain.
 
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flecc

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I think racism in football has reduced, but not disappeared. There is still some work to do.
We won't know if it really has reduced until after the crowds return. The Millwall incident is not an encouraging sign

Hamilton did suffer racism earlier in his career. Spanish audiences did the complete routine, bananas and monkey noises. That was at the time he was trouncing Alonso, but not acceptable.
Agreed, but that was a very long time ago and unconnected in any way to the "Knee taking" gesture

The knee is a politically symbol now, it needs to be stopped. BLM should be classed as a prescribed terrorist organisation.
I'm not aware of any BLM terrorism. It's a protest against police murdering black people.

There is genuine racism, I don’t deny that. Attention and actions should be focused on ending it.
It needs to be ended among football fans and there is a very simple way to do that. At the first sign of racist behaviour all the players should immediately walk off the pitch, ending the game and no ticket refunds.

Since only a minority are racists, the rest of the fans, usually the great majority, would quickly turn on them for ending their enjoyment of the game.

Let the game police the game.
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Oh dear - Rudy has CV.
I am surprised that didn't happen sooner.
maybe that's the signal for Trump's followers to start wearing masks from now on.
 
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