Brexit, for once some facts.

[Danidl]

Trump's always has an odd way of dealing with the media

Donald Trump 'pretends to be his own spokesman to boast about himself'

Some reporters found the calls disturbing or even creepy; others thought they were just examples of Trump being playful

www.independent.co.uk

So when he finds the MSM doesn't humbly bow down and adulate him as his ego's wont more than anything in wthe whole world , even more than filthy lucre - he made friends-and-influenced them in the only way he knows how - very soon after his 2016 inauguration when his claims that had the largest inauguration crowd in history led to the invention of the infamous 'alternative facts' phrase when the media clearly had evidence to the contrary i.e. photos, video, and journalists with their feet on the ground. It was downhill from then on. And he's made no attempt to build a better relationship, instead he made his anger with media his USP (as he's done with anyone or group not kowtowing to him) and seen him behaving more and more like a pantomime villian combined with the back end of a flatulent orange cow.

Trump's troubling relationship with the press

The Trump administration has declared war on the American press. It has also declared war on the judiciary, also on the Democratic leadership of Congress, sometimes even on the Republican leadership of Congress. But it is the press that is the target of the president’s special fury.

www.brookings.edu

I see he's castigating Fox news now as being Deep State as he wombles off out the door like Cummings has just done...

I tried to be open minded as this Vee made his case. But excluding a few peripheral points about Trump as a popular Celebrity, ,it doesn't compute. I was in NYC in September 2014, long before he was candidate. We took a number of those bus tours around the city with chatty tour guides, and while they had interesting comments about other locations ,Every reference to Trump was derisive..now we didn't have any knowledge ,but the dislike was evident.
As a fringe celebrity Trump was not subject to any scrutiny until after he had become a candidate. Even then the hope was that this was election posturing. But his inauguration speech showed it was not.
Now I can just about accept that the Military Industry Complex War argument as plausible..except, even it does not ring true. Trump has increased weapons expenditure, he has increased tensions in Iran and posturing around the China . Withdrawal from Arms limitation deals INCREASES Arms spending ,not the reverse.

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

I’d forgotten it’s Children in Need day. I hate it, Netflix for me tonight.

I remember about thirty years ago a bloke coming into our office dressed as a clown rattling a bucket full of coins. The whole forced wackiness and everything else I detest. He asked if we wanted to donate to Children in Need, but before I could answer, my colleague said, “ certainly not, it’s their own fault for getting themselves in that state in the first place.” I nearly fell off my chair laughing. I think about it every year. He won’t be laughing, he’s dead now.

I flew from Gander Bay with the same guy, we’d landed for fuel a couple of days prior to Christmas and as we departed, the controller said something along the lines of, “the crew at Gander wish you a safe crossing and you and your families a very merry Christmas.” My colleague responded, “Roger, X-Ray 55 Out.” and changed frequency. His rudeness was legendary.

 

[Wicky]

And Priti is doing well today:

Priti Patel not following her own anti-trafficking policy, judge rules
Ruling could halt deportation of hundreds of asylum seekers who arrived in UK during pandemic

Carrying on the fine tradition of Teresa May in making Britain "a beacon of hope"

May: Let Britain be a beacon of hope

Home Secretary Theresa May announces plans to review rules for asylum seekers coming to Britain.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Wicky]

DHS boss Chad Wolf defies Trump order to fire cyber chief Chris Krebs

Department of Homeland Security acting Secretary Chad Wolf is defying President Trump’s order to terminate election cybersecurity official Christopher Krebs, multiple sources tell The Post. T…

nypost.com

(Reminder that Krebs was nominated for that position by President Trump in February 2018!)

Among Krebs’ sins, according to sources, is his decision to host an election night gathering at a northern Virginia office building — described by a detractor as a watch party. A document reviewed by The Post indicates it was attended by two staffers of Dominion Voting Systems, whose platform miscounted some Michigan votes.

Dominion software’s widespread use across states is a focus of Trump backers claiming fraud.

On Thursday, Krebs retweeted a message urging people not to circulate “wild and baseless claims about voting machines, even if they’re made by the president.”

“Krebs is trying to make himself a resistance hero, obviously,” the senior official said.

 

[RossG]

Trump about to speak any moment now...get your hankies out

 

[RossG]

He appears to have turned grey overnight, maybe it's my Telly.

 

[vfr400]

I wasn’t allowed to say anything until tonight, but it's now okay for me to share that I have volunteered for the Covid-19 vaccine trials that a local Hospital are running in partnership with Pfizer. It's important that we all do our part to beat this virus.
The vaccine is the one that has been developed in Russia. I received my first dose this morning 06:20 am, and I wanted to let you all know that it’s completely safe, with иo side effects whatsoeveя, and that I feelshκι я чувю себя немного стрно и я думю, что вытл осные уши. чувству себя немго страо.

 

[vfr400]

Trump's always has an odd way of dealing with the media

Donald Trump 'pretends to be his own spokesman to boast about himself'

Some reporters found the calls disturbing or even creepy; others thought they were just examples of Trump being playful

www.independent.co.uk

So when he finds the MSM doesn't humbly bow down and adulate him as his ego's wont more than anything in wthe whole world , even more than filthy lucre - he made friends-and-influenced them in the only way he knows how - very soon after his 2016 inauguration when his claims that had the largest inauguration crowd in history led to the invention of the infamous 'alternative facts' phrase when the media clearly had evidence to the contrary i.e. photos, video, and journalists with their feet on the ground. It was downhill from then on. And he's made no attempt to build a better relationship, instead he made his anger with media his USP (as he's done with anyone or group not kowtowing to him) and seen him behaving more and more like a pantomime villian combined with the back end of a flatulent orange cow.

Trump's troubling relationship with the press

The Trump administration has declared war on the American press. It has also declared war on the judiciary, also on the Democratic leadership of Congress, sometimes even on the Republican leadership of Congress. But it is the press that is the target of the president’s special fury.

www.brookings.edu

I see he's castigating Fox news now as being Deep State as he wombles off out the door like Cummings has just done...

But the point is that they were very kind to him up to 2016, then they turned against him. Why was that? I doubt that he changed. If you search for "Trump racist", you won't find a single result before 2016, but suddenly after 2016, it's everywhere. Does a 70 year old suddenly become a racist? What did he do to become a racist?

 

[RossG]

Maybe a black man short changed him at McDonalds. Not to worry though, he'll be a distant memory in a few months.

 

[oyster]

But the point is that they were very kind to him up to 2016, then they turned against him. Why was that? I doubt that he changed. If you search for "Trump racist", you won't find a single result before 2016, but suddenly after 2016, it's everywhere. Does a 70 year old suddenly become a racist? What did he do to become a racist?

Really?

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/donald-trump-racist-meme/

 

[Wicky]

Hard to know what soap to watch....

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1327349873750978560

or the Trump Show...

 

[oyster]

Is Trump going? Or is it just the usual garbage?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1327364909395480576

 

[oyster]

Hard to know what soap to watch....

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1327349873750978560

or the Trump Show...

A total fool to invest so much into one SPAD.

 

[flecc]

I’d forgotten it’s Children in Need day. I hate it, Netflix for me tonight.

I agree and i am always annoyed at the BBC for using charity as a cheap excuse to avoid what they should be doing, making programs to inform, educate and entertain. Children in Need doesn't begin to do that. And the way they deal with the cash donated makes it utterly dishonest anyway

Worse still it's not one day, there's been programs on this theme for days now.
.

 

[RossG]

Just about to reach for the TV remote and fix the colour and it turns out Trump's hair really is snow white after all.
That's a relief, I suppose he's not in the mood for hair dye ATM poor love.

 

[Wicky]

What did he do to become a racist?

Well he could have learnt at his papa's knee.

Donald Trump's father 'told staff' to 'get rid of blacks' when running property firm with his son, FBI dossier claims

Claims in newly released 389-page FBI dossier, relating to when Donald Trump was president of the family property company, risk causing US President fresh embarrassment, while fuelling his anger at US intelligence agencies

www.independent.co.uk

And been advised not being shy about it would win him votes and popularity from a right wing base.

The concept for the Trump wall was developed by campaign advisers Sam Nunberg and Roger Stone in 2014 as a memorable talking point Trump could use to tie his business experience as a builder and developer to his immigration policy proposals.

 

[vfr400]

Really?

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/donald-trump-racist-meme/

I bet Snopes had to look really hard to find those. I'm talking about a normal Google search. If you set it for anything before 2016, it's so biased that not only can't it find anything but it'll only bring up results from after 2016 that says he is a racist! Try it yourself.

 

[vfr400]

Well he could have learnt at his papa's knee.

Donald Trump's father 'told staff' to 'get rid of blacks' when running property firm with his son, FBI dossier claims

Claims in newly released 389-page FBI dossier, relating to when Donald Trump was president of the family property company, risk causing US President fresh embarrassment, while fuelling his anger at US intelligence agencies

www.independent.co.uk

And been advised not being shy about it would win him votes and popularity from a right wing base.

The concept for the Trump wall was developed by campaign advisers Sam Nunberg and Roger Stone in 2014 as a memorable talking point Trump could use to tie his business experience as a builder and developer to his immigration policy proposals.

That's just spin. I'm being serious. You'll note that that article was written in 2017.

 

[Wicky]

That's just spin. I'm being serious. You'll note that that article was written in 2017.

He's flip flopped on so many issues and been contradictory in attempt to try and please as many folk as much as the time as possible. - like abortion until he cooked a perfect appealing recipie to right wingers.

First here he is on about walls in 2004 ;-)

Then at Iowa Freedom Summit in 2015 "we have to build a fence, and it's got to be a beauty"

The wall was first aired in January 2015 at the Iowa Freedom Summit hosted by Citizens United and Steve King, and two days later on morning show Fox & Friends. Trump proposed it again at Trump's June 2015 announcement speech for his 2015–2016 presidential campaign, along with a claim that Mexico would pay for it. Trump has repeated the claim many times.

Which morphed into all kinds of demonizing of immigrants as wall hoppers and vote stealers that lost him the popular vote in 2016 but made it into a vote winner for himself - to where we are today - he's run out of anyone to blame and hate but himself.

5 facts about Trump supporters’ views of immigration

Immigration policy has been a focal point of Donald Trump’s campaign since he first announced he was running for president. Here's a look at where his supporters stand on the issue.

www.pewresearch.org

Reality Check: Did millions vote illegally in the US?

President Trump claims that he would have won the popular vote had it not been for fraud. Is he right?

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Wicky]

https://www.nytimes.com/times-insider/2015/07/30/1973-meet-donald-trump/

1973: The US Department of Justice — under the Nixon administration, out of all administrations — sued the Trump Management Corporation for violating the Fair Housing Act. Federal officials found evidence that Trump had refused to rent to Black tenants and lied to Black applicants about whether apartments were available, among other accusations. Trump said the federal government was trying to get him to rent to welfare recipients. In the aftermath, he signed an agreement in 1975 agreeing not to discriminate to renters of color without admitting to previous discrimination.
1980s: Kip Brown, a former employee at Trump’s Castle, accused another one of Trump’s businesses of discrimination. “When Donald and Ivana came to the casino, the bosses would order all the black people off the floor,” Brown said. “It was the eighties, I was a teenager, but I remember it: They put us all in the back.”
1989: In a controversial case that’s been characterized as a modern-day lynching, four Black teenagers and one Latino teenager — the “Central Park Five” — were accused of attacking and raping a jogger in New York City. Trump immediately took charge in the case, running an ad in local papers demanding, “BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY. BRING BACK OUR POLICE!” The teens’ convictions were later vacated after they spent seven to 13 years in prison, and the city paid $41 million in a settlement to the teens. But Trump in October 2016 said he still believes they’re guilty, despite the DNA evidence to the contrary.
1991: A book by John O’Donnell, former president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City, quoted Trump’s criticism of a Black accountant: “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.” Trump later said in a 1997 Playboy interview that “the stuff O’Donnell wrote about me is probably true.”
1992: The Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino had to pay a $200,000 fine because it transferred Black and women dealers off tables to accommodate a big-time gambler’s prejudices.
1993: In congressional testimony, Trump said that some Native American reservations operating casinos shouldn’t be allowed because “they don’t look like Indians to me.”
2000: In opposition to a casino proposed by the St. Regis Mohawk tribe, which he saw as a financial threat to his casinos in Atlantic City, Trump secretly ran a series of ads suggesting the tribe had a “record of criminal activity [that] is well documented.”
2004: In season two of The Apprentice, Trump fired Kevin Allen, a Black contestant, for being overeducated. “You’re an unbelievably talented guy in terms of education, and you haven’t done anything,” Trump said on the show. “At some point you have to say, ‘That’s enough.’”
2005: Trump publicly pitched what was essentially The Apprentice: White People vs. Black People. He said he “wasn’t particularly happy” with the most recent season of his show, so he was considering “an idea that is fairly controversial — creating a team of successful African Americans versus a team of successful whites. Whether people like that idea or not, it is somewhat reflective of our very vicious world.”
2010: In 2010, there was a huge national controversy over the “Ground Zero Mosque” — a proposal to build a Muslim community center in Lower Manhattan, near the site of the 9/11 attacks. Trump opposed the project, calling it “insensitive,” and offered to buy out one of the investors in the project. On The Late Show With David Letterman, Trump argued, referring to Muslims, “Well, somebody’s blowing us up. Somebody’s blowing up buildings, and somebody’s doing lots of bad stuff.”
2011: Trump played a big role in pushing false rumors that Obama — the country’s first Black president — was not born in the US. He claimed to send investigators to Hawaii to look into Obama’s birth certificate. Obama later released his birth certificate, calling Trump a “carnival barker.” The research has found a strong correlation between birtherism, as the conspiracy theory is called, and racism. But Trump has reportedly continued pushing this conspiracy theory in private.
2011: While Trump suggested that Obama wasn’t born in the US, he also argued that maybe Obama wasn’t a good enough student to have gotten into Columbia or Harvard Law School, and demanded Obama release his university transcripts. Trump claimed, “I heard he was a terrible student. Terrible. How does a bad student go to Columbia and then to Harvard?”