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If Trump presently thinks that he won't be the next president, why is he sorting out his personnel? If these guys were any good and Biden won, Biden would just re-employ them, so can you explain what's going on and what's the significance of your post?
Trump does think he will be the next President though vfr, even when he sitting in his Bath Chair peering out of the window on the top floor of Trump Towers he'll still think he's actually the real President.
I'm starting to feel more and more inclined to stop taking the P**s and perhaps have a more sympathetic view.
He's not nuts just disillusioned, look at him alone on his golf course in his own world maybe not so funny.
 
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Trump does think he will be the next President though vfr, even when he sitting in his Bath Chair peering out of the window on the top floor of Trump Towers he'll still think he's actually the real President.
I'm starting to feel more and more inclined to stop taking the P**s and perhaps have a more sympathetic view.
He's not nuts just disillusioned, look at him alone on his golf course in his own world maybe not so funny.
If it weren't for the impact on everyone else, there might be some argument for sympathy.
 
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If Trump presently thinks that he won't be the next president, why is he sorting out his personnel? If these guys were any good and Biden won, Biden would just re-employ them, so can you explain what's going on and what's the significance of your post?
they get 'embedded' into the civil service with long term contracts.
Biden can't just replace them like some 4,000 other political appointees that Trump put in place.
They owe their job to Trump but that's less important than that they are Trump's followers. Whatever Trump asks, they'll do. Trump or one of his sons will run in 2024, no matter what.

It's incredible that in this point in time of human development, so many Americans like what he says (small government, protection for the unborn, cut taxes, bring troops home) to the point that they don't care about his misdemeanours and disrespect of facts.
 
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so can you explain what's going on and what's the significance of your post?
Its's a tad awkward for Trump to have been responsible setting up an election security govt dept as part of the Homeland Security Agency and appointing Krebs, which has worked with States and counting equipment manufactures. For the dept it must be crazy going to work when Trump is batshit crazy twittering CT contradicting their work and what's on the .gov website.


CISA posted a “rumor control” page ahead of the general election in order to combat misinformation and disinformation, which has spiked following the contentious presidential election. The website has rebutted conspiracy theories about voter fraud that have been promoted by some Trump supporters.

Krebs has tweeted out updates to the page over the past week, reportedly drawing concerns from the White House.

Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.), the vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, strongly defended Krebs on Thursday.

“Chris Krebs has done a great job protecting our elections,” Warner tweeted. “He is one of the few people in this Administration respected by everyone on both sides of the aisle. There is no possible justification to remove him from office. None."

Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.), another member of the Intelligence panel, also voiced his support for Krebs.

“Under Chris Krebs’ leadership, CISA has been a trusted source of election security information,” Wyden tweeted. “If Donald Trump fires him, it will suggest Trump is preparing to spread lies about the election from a government agency."

The White House did not offer comment, and a spokesperson for acting Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) did not immediately respond to The Hill’s request for comment.

Krebs’s potential ouster would leave a tremendous leadership vacuum at DHS and would leave the top government cybersecurity role vacant at a critical moment.
 
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If it weren't for the impact on everyone else, there might be some argument for sympathy.
Just build a replica White House office for him, with TVs showing 24/7 suitably faked news and reruns of his rallies, let a few familar faces pop in with important blank sheets of paper to sign - occasionally drive him in a blacked out limo to his local golf course allowing people to wave at him from a suitable distance. He wouldn't know the difference.

 
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Just build a replica White House office for him, with TVs showing 24/7 suitably faked news and reruns of his rallies, let a few familar faces pop in with important blank sheets of paper to sign - occasionally drive him in a blacked out limo to his local golf course allowing people to wave at him from a suitable distance. He wouldn't know the difference.

Must have Sharpies!

(I was using a fountain pen well before the end of primary school. But I must have been a Stabilo genius.)
 

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Dominic Cummings is quitting in January. Good timing that. Just when it hits the fan.
Where'd'y'see see that?

Dominic Cummings in new ‘special treatment’ row over lockdown trips

Dominic Cummings was shown a key statement by police investigating his trips during lockdown ‘as a courtesy’ before it was made public. Fresh accusations of special treatment have been levelled over the advance notice given to the Prime Minister’s chief advisor by Durham Police. Mr Cummings – currently caught up in a power struggle at the heart of Downing Street – drove 260 miles from London to his parents’ farm in Durham during the first lockdown in March after his wife displayed Covid-19 symptoms.

https://metro.co.uk/2020/11/12/dominic-cummings-in-new-special-treatment-row-over-lockdown-trips-13582395/

Ah! Google didn't bring much up but DuckDuckGo was good - Mail, Telegraph, etc.:

Dominic Cummings is set to quit Downing Street in the New Year after his closest ally was ousted in a power struggle with Boris Johnson’s fiancée.

The Prime Minister talked Mr Cummings out of resigning immediately following the departure of No 10 communications director Lee Cain on Wednesday night.


And BBC is saying "by Christmas".
 
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Interesting watching CNN here, Biden has a lot of messages waiting for him at the WH but Trump wont let him see them.
Ordinarily the President elect can get to read such information before being inaugurated but not with Trump.
 
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This guy speaks sense..
With a degree of what many might call paranoia:

The scientist behind the BioNTech/Pfizer coronavirus vaccine has defended his company from Donald Trump’s accusation that it deliberately delayed news of its rapid progress until after the election, saying “we don’t play politics”.
 
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Another lost case for Trump et al.
Really?? :D :D
BREAKING: Pennsylvania Court Rules In Favor Of Trump
Moments ago, a Pennsylvania judge gave the Trump campaign a huge victory in their battle to overturn the rampant voter fraud that altered the outcome of the 2020 election.
A Pennsylvania court ruled in favor of the Trump campaign on Thursday, ordering that the state may not count ballots where the voters needed to provide proof of identification and failed to do so by Nov. 9.

State law said that voters have until six days after the election — this year that was Nov. 9 — to cure problems regarding a lack of proof of identification.

After the Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruled that mail-in ballots could be accepted three days after Election Day, Pennsylvania Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar submitted guidance that said proof of identification could be provided up until Nov. 12, which is six days from the ballot acceptance deadline. That guidance was issued two days before Election Day.
 

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BREAKING: Pennsylvania Court Rules In Favor Of Trump
Moments ago, a Pennsylvania judge gave the Trump campaign a huge victory in their battle to overturn the rampant voter fraud that altered the outcome of the 2020 election.
A Pennsylvania court ruled in favor of the Trump campaign on Thursday, ordering that the state may not count ballots where the voters needed to provide proof of identification and failed to do so by Nov. 9.

State law said that voters have until six days after the election — this year that was Nov. 9 — to cure problems regarding a lack of proof of identification.

After the Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruled that mail-in ballots could be accepted three days after Election Day, Pennsylvania Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar submitted guidance that said proof of identification could be provided up until Nov. 12, which is six days from the ballot acceptance deadline. That guidance was issued two days before Election Day.
So far as I understand, even if not appealed, the actual effect will be tiny.
 
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BREAKING: Pennsylvania Court Rules In Favor Of Trump
Moments ago, a Pennsylvania judge gave the Trump campaign a huge victory in their battle to overturn the rampant voter fraud that altered the outcome of the 2020 election.
A Pennsylvania court ruled in favor of the Trump campaign on Thursday, ordering that the state may not count ballots where the voters needed to provide proof of identification and failed to do so by Nov. 9.

State law said that voters have until six days after the election — this year that was Nov. 9 — to cure problems regarding a lack of proof of identification.

After the Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruled that mail-in ballots could be accepted three days after Election Day, Pennsylvania Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar submitted guidance that said proof of identification could be provided up until Nov. 12, which is six days from the ballot acceptance deadline. That guidance was issued two days before Election Day.
But of course The US will STILL have a new Democratic Pres come Jan. 20th
 

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BREAKING: Pennsylvania Court Rules In Favor Of Trump
Moments ago, a Pennsylvania judge gave the Trump campaign a huge victory in their battle to overturn the rampant voter fraud that altered the outcome of the 2020 election.
A Pennsylvania court ruled in favor of the Trump campaign on Thursday, ordering that the state may not count ballots where the voters needed to provide proof of identification and failed to do so by Nov. 9.

State law said that voters have until six days after the election — this year that was Nov. 9 — to cure problems regarding a lack of proof of identification.

After the Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruled that mail-in ballots could be accepted three days after Election Day, Pennsylvania Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar submitted guidance that said proof of identification could be provided up until Nov. 12, which is six days from the ballot acceptance deadline. That guidance was issued two days before Election Day.
How many votes does this affect? . Even if this procedure is adopted and a number of votes are disallowed, that is NOT EVIDENCE of any FRAUD. .. just tardy voters . . But my understanding is that any or all votes which arrived late have not yet been counted , so is this is giving permission for these to be counted ?
Incidentally the word MAY is much less serious than the word SHALL ... so which was it. ?
May gives permission, Shall instructs.
 
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Evidence of fraud is now never ending, even Fox has got the message, only a matter of time when the other networks try to save face,

First Dominion Whistleblower Goes Public, Exposes Illegalities in Michigan


We know that multiple Dominion whistleblowers are coming forward to the Trump campaign.

Dominion is the software used in Michigan and at least 33 other states.

The software is alleged to have changed Trump votes to Biden votes.

Rudy Giuliani has confirmed that multiple Dominion whistleblowers are helping with Trump’s lawsuits.

Now…

At least one whistleblower has gone public with her claims!

Her name is Ms. Mellissa Carone and she is a contractor for Dominion.

Carone was sent to Detroit, Michigan to provide technical support.

She has confirmed that ballots were re-scanned and re-counted at least 4 to 5 times before being discarded.

In this case, the “re-scans” are different from simply trying to get the machine to re-read the ballot

She appears to allege that this was done purposefully to inflate Biden’s vote count in Michigan!


 
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Evidence of fraud is now never ending, even Fox has got the message, only a matter of time when the other networks try to save face,

First Dominion Whistleblower Goes Public, Exposes Illegalities in Michigan


We know that multiple Dominion whistleblowers are coming forward to the Trump campaign.

Dominion is the software used in Michigan and at least 33 other states.

The software is alleged to have changed Trump votes to Biden votes.

Rudy Giuliani has confirmed that multiple Dominion whistleblowers are helping with Trump’s lawsuits.

Now…

At least one whistleblower has gone public with her claims!

Her name is Ms. Mellissa Carone and she is a contractor for Dominion.

Carone was sent to Detroit, Michigan to provide technical support.

She has confirmed that ballots were re-scanned and re-counted at least 4 to 5 times before being discarded.

In this case, the “re-scans” are different from simply trying to get the machine to re-read the ballot

She appears to allege that this was done purposefully to inflate Biden’s vote count in Michigan!


No ALLEGATIONS of fraud are never ending.... Subtle difference. If you listen very closely to Rudi, you will see that he is careful not to overstep .
Now again I dont know in detail that part, but does not each ballot have a code number, so that it will not be recounted?. She may very well have seen the same batch of ballots put into the same machine multiple times , she may have seen the same set put into multiple machines . These can easily be part of QA procedures. These are allegations , nothing less and nothing more. At least she is providing time and place information, for they can be investigated.
Even her interview is just at the level of suspicion. Her boss tells her to do her work .. whatever it is. since this guy can be named , why is he not supenia ed ? . she sees white trucks , but does not see what they are carrying ... Was she supplied with food in her 24 hour shift?

I took a few minutes to look at the Dominion website , and note that it is used in 28 of the states .. many of which voted Biden. . Perhaps it is being singled out not because it is corrupt , but because it is not.
 
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Had to laugh at this one!

BLM Co-founder: “We Want Something For Our Vote,” Requests Meeting With Biden & Harris
BLM co-founder Patrisse Cullors: "Black people won this election."





Black Lives Matter co-founder Patrisse Cullors just requested a meeting with Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, who she assumes to be the next presidential administration.
In a letter penned to both Biden and Harris, Cullors basically demands a meeting, reminding the two that black people are responsible for their alleged victory.
She says in the letter: “Black people won this election,” and then follows that with: “We want something for our vote.”

What a charming woman?
Of course, if Biden has any guts, he’d tell her to sod off.
Of course, he does not have any, so he’ll surely cater to the demands of the mob if elected.
 

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