Brexit, for once some facts.

Wicky

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Father Frank Pavone: “Contrary to Media Manipulation, Joe Biden Has Not Won the Election”

For the attention of all you unbelievers, a few FACTS from Father Frank Pavone - lets be seated,

He's drunk on Trump's kookaid

 

Wicky

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Let us also consider that Dominion is actually a Canadian headquartered company, allegations of this seriousness (if anyone could take them at face value) have a major international dimension. Canada isn't just any old country, they have a huge land border and considerable trade and numerous other ties.

(Are you sure you are being fair to the buttplug seller? Are they really 10th-rate? Is this from experience?)
Now Trump is back off the golf course it's now a veritable hosepipe of Twittered keyword salad conspiracy theories....

 
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Barry Shittpeas

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No it's not, it's very much to do with race and colour.

We've known this since the earliest months of the infection, clearly you weren't paying attention, but there's more to it than getting infected. Their death rates from Covid-19 once infected are far higher, up to over 4 times higher.

The ONS ratios for the ethnic groups back at 8th May are ON THIS LINK

Not conforming to rules can increase the chance of infection, it cannot multiply the death rate once infected, that is due to a genetic vulnerability.
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I agree that genetics appear to make people from ethnic minority groups more susceptible to a fatal outcome after contracting Coronavirus. All the more reason to exercise greater caution. Congregating in large groups and swinging from statues is not a good plan. It’s daft. When I saw the images of people behaving in this way a few weeks ago, I knew they’d be bleating, moaning and BLAME ing a few weeks down the line. Here we are, today is the day.

We know what to do, we know how the virus is passed on. It’s not hard to stop yourself joining a riot over nothing, especially if you’re likely to kill yourself in the process.
 
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Another disgusting case of biased authorities/employers putting pressure on people so that they can't run their lives under freewill.
“I’ve been requested by the competent ecclesiastical authority not to have an official title/position on the advisory boards. So, as a priest in good standing, I’ve followed that request,” Pavone told CNA July 24, in response to questions about his role in the Trump campaign.
 

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Odd this. I thought Biden had billionaire donors and Trump collected dollars bills from poor folk? Or did I get that wrong?

Billionaire Trump donors contract Covid-19 after downplaying risks
Liz and Richard Uihlein, owners of the Uline packaging company, made the announcement in a message to employees

Two of Donald Trump’s billionaire donors have contracted Covid-19 months after downplaying the risk of the disease to their employees.

Richard and Liz Uihlein, conservative megadonors who own the Uline packaging company based in Wisconsin and are two of the Republican party’s most significant financial backers, told employees on Wednesday that they had contracted the disease after being “around people with Covid”.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/12/billionaire-trump-donors-covid-19-richard-liz-uihlein
 
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I agree that genetics appear to make people from ethnic minority groups more susceptible to a fatal outcome after contracting Coronavirus. All the more reason to exercise greater caution. Congregating in large groups and swinging from statues is not a good plan. It’s daft. When I saw the images of people behaving in this way a few weeks ago, I knew they’d be bleating, moaning and BLAME ing a few weeks down the line. Here we are, today is the day.

We know what to do, we know how the virus is passed on. It’s not hard to stop yourself joining a riot over nothing, especially if you’re likely to kill yourself in the process.
You are being unfair. As Woosh pointed out they do the jobs putting them most at risk. Remember that long string of black bus driver deaths back at the outset of Covid? They weren't rioting, they wrere simply having passengers pass close to them as they boarded until the front of the buses was blocked off. Even them it was months before perspex sheet enclosures were designed to fit all the bus types and fitted. Tube workers were similarly exposed to huge numbers of the public.

Then there's my black refuse collecting crews. With my council hovering on the edge of bankruptcy and asking the unreasonable of it's staff and contractors to survive, for most of the pandemic to date our collections were around 5.30 am in darkness much of the time. A reshuffle saw that changed to an evening round at anything up to 10pm so always in darkness,

When these good people are still doing that unpleasant job in such awful conditions at anti-social hours yet still doing it to a high standard, I appreciate it and get offended when they get insulted online by someone assuming they are rioters or misbehaving because of their skin colour.

It's wrong to blame the many for the public actions of a very few.
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oyster

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Another disgusting case of biased authorities/employers putting pressure on people so that they can't run their lives under freewill.
“I’ve been requested by the competent ecclesiastical authority not to have an official title/position on the advisory boards. So, as a priest in good standing, I’ve followed that request,” Pavone told CNA July 24, in response to questions about his role in the Trump campaign.
At least the ecclesiastical authority is competent. Unlike a soon-to-be-former president.
 

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Father Frank Pavone: “Contrary to Media Manipulation, Joe Biden Has Not Won the Election”

For the attention of all you unbelievers, a few FACTS from Father Frank Pavone - lets be seated,

Most of what he took a very long time to say was extremely well known. Unfortunately along with the facts he decided to throw in untruths.. yes there are contested votes, yes not all votes are counted as of yet ,but there is NO EVIDENCE of cheating .There are allegations of cheating . Since he was so precise in his explanation of the certification process, this omission is not due to ignorance.
I find the inclusion of a Catholic priest in an overtly political stance as unacceptable. And yes if he were supporting Biden my reaction would be no different. If you separate Church and State, as the USA does, and allows Charitable ,Tax Exempt status to Churches, the separation must be total. If I were part of his congregation I would tell him so.

Note ..I had not seen Wickys post when I wrote this , but my view is certainly in conformance with standard Catholic church protocols
 
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Another disgusting case of biased authorities/employers putting pressure on people so that they can't run their lives under freewill.
“I’ve been requested by the competent ecclesiastical authority not to have an official title/position on the advisory boards. So, as a priest in good standing, I’ve followed that request,” Pavone told CNA July 24, in response to questions about his role in the Trump campaign.
vfr.. he can and do what he wants as a citizen, but not while wearing the garb of a Catholic Priest. Had that video been done, while sitting on a sofa, in a teeshirt but without the majesty of church furnishings ..no problem.
He is entitled to freewill, and to join the KKK , but not while presenting himself as the representative of an organisation.
 
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Most of what he took a very long time to say was extremely well known. Unfortunately along with the facts he decided to throw in untruths.. yes there are contested votes, yes not all votes are counted as of yet ,but there is NO EVIDENCE of cheating .There are allegations of cheating . Since he was so precise in his explanation of the certification process, this omission is not due to ignorance.
I find the inclusion of a Catholic priest in an overtly political stance as unacceptable. And yes if he were supporting Biden my reaction would be no different. If you separate Church and State, as the USA does, and allows Charitable ,Tax Exempt status to Churches, the separation must be total. If I were part of his congregation I would tell him so.

Note ..I had not seen Wickys post when I wrote this , but my view is certainly in conformance with standard Catholic church protocols

Bit rich that coming from a citizen of a state run entirely by the Catholic church until very recently
 

Barry Shittpeas

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You are being unfair. As Woosh pointed out they do the jobs putting them most at risk. Remember that long string of black bus driver deaths back at the outset of Covid? They weren't rioting, they wrere simply having passengers pass close to them as they boarded until the front of the buses was blocked off. Even them it was months before perspex sheet enclosures were designed to fit all the bus types and fitted. Tube workers were similarly exposed to huge numbers of the public.

Then there's my black refuse collecting crews. With my council hovering on the edge of bankruptcy and asking the unreasonable of it's staff and contractors to survive, for most of the pandemic to date our collections were around 5.30 am in darkness much of the time. A reshuffle saw that changed to an evening round at anything up to 10pm so always in darkness,

When these good people are still doing that unpleasant job in such awful conditions at anti-social hours yet still doing it to a high standard, I appreciate it and get offended when they get insulted online by someone assuming they are rioters or misbehaving because of their skin colour.

It's wrong to blame the many for the public actions of a very few.
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You make some fair points.
 

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Another lost case for Trump et al.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A U.S. judge dismissed on Thursday a libel lawsuit filed by President Donald Trump’s re-election campaign against CNN over its publication of a 2019 opinion piece, according to a court document.

The campaign sued CNN in March over an opinion piece it had run in which the author suggested the Trump campaign would be open to Russian interference in the 2020 election. U.S. District Judge Michael Brown dismissed the suit, saying the campaign had failed to prove the piece was maliciously published.
 

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Krebs has drawn praise from both Democrats and Republicans for his handling of the U.S. election, which generally ran smoothly despite persistent fears that foreign hackers might try to undermine the vote.

But he drew the ire of the Trump White House over a website run by CISA dubbed “Rumor Control” which debunks misinformation about the election, according to the three people familiar with the matter.

White House officials have asked for content to be edited or removed from the website, which has pushed back against numerous false claims about the election, including that Democrats are behind a mass election fraud scheme. In response, CISA officials have refused to delete accurate information.

In particular, one person said, the White House was angry about a CISA post rejecting a conspiracy theory that falsely claims an intelligence agency supercomputer and program, purportedly named Hammer and Scorecard, could have flipped votes nationally. No such system exists, according to Krebs, election security experts and former U.S. officials.
 

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Odd this. I thought Biden had billionaire donors and Trump collected dollars bills from poor folk? Or did I get that wrong?

Billionaire Trump donors contract Covid-19 after downplaying risks
Liz and Richard Uihlein, owners of the Uline packaging company, made the announcement in a message to employees

Two of Donald Trump’s billionaire donors have contracted Covid-19 months after downplaying the risk of the disease to their employees.

Richard and Liz Uihlein, conservative megadonors who own the Uline packaging company based in Wisconsin and are two of the Republican party’s most significant financial backers, told employees on Wednesday that they had contracted the disease after being “around people with Covid”.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/12/billionaire-trump-donors-covid-19-richard-liz-uihlein
Trump had 120 donors for $328 million. Biden had 186 for $637 million. As I said before, the bulk of the Dems money was donated and disseminated through non-profits. China donated massive amounts that way. Trump doesn't have such a sophisticated structures to do the same.

As I also said, where did those billions of BLM donations go? Why would Pepsi donate $400 million, Walmart $100 million, Apple $100 miilion, etc?.

How many black lives have been made better so far? All I see is black people's businesses being destroyed by white people dressed in black, who are financed by non-profits.
 
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If Trump presently thinks that he won't be the next president, why is he sorting out his personnel? If these guys were any good and Biden won, Biden would just re-employ them, so can you explain what's going on and what's the significance of your post?
 

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If Trump presently thinks that he won't be the next president, why is he sorting out his personnel? If these guys were any good and Biden won, Biden would just re-employ them, so can you explain what's going on and what's the significance of your post?
1. It is thought that Trump is using this period of time to fleece his loyal followers of their last few shekels.They believe that they are funding a legal campaign, but the reality is that the money goes wherever Trump wants.
2. Phase 2 of the coup?.and removing potential goody goodies who might have read the Constitution.
 
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