Brexit, for once some facts.

Danidl

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Nothing but nothing is better at spreading a virus than lots of human beings going into a polling station.

Well, maybe not 'nothing', but it isn't a good idea.
Exactly, so lots of polling stations each with low density of people , or even Marquee tents .. Come off it , this is not rocket science. . I have never been in a polling station where there was more than 20 people and that scattered over the dimensions of a full school hall, And of course you are incorrect. Much better is funnelling people into stadia via underground tunnels and keeping the roof closed
 

OxygenJames

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A total underestimate!! Potential for 1.8million fraudulent ballots.
This mail-in voting has to be thrown out

Analysis finds 353 counties with 1.8 million more registered voters than there are eligible citizens

Posted by: Chris Elliot|October 20, 2020 |Categories Editorial, Featured, Must Reads, News

Judicial Watch recently released a report which showed that 353 counties in the United States are reporting far more registered voters than are legally allowed. That should scare anyone who is concerned about the outcome of this year’s presidential election.
“This new study shows 1.8 million excess, or ‘ghost’ voters, in 353 counties across 29 states. This data highlights the recklessness of mailing blindly ballots and ballot applications to voter registration lists. Dirty voting rolls can mean dirty elections.”

German journalist, Stefan Neimann, who is living in Washington, D.C. said:
Niemann said:
“The chaos that Trump lamented with the delivery of mail voting papers is here. I am not allowed to vote here…But three ballots came to my Washington address: for the previous tenant who moved five years ago, the landlady living in Puerto Rico, and her deceased husband.”

That's not what we were talking about.

We were specifically talking about that Wisconsin screenshot you sent in.

Which has been proven to be completely false.

Sorry mate - you're on the secret list now.
 

flecc

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A total underestimate!! Potential for 1.8million fraudulent ballots.
This mail-in voting has to be thrown out

Analysis finds 353 counties with 1.8 million more registered voters than there are eligible citizens

Posted by: Chris Elliot|October 20, 2020 |Categories Editorial, Featured, Must Reads, News

Judicial Watch recently released a report which showed that 353 counties in the United States are reporting far more registered voters than are legally allowed. That should scare anyone who is concerned about the outcome of this year’s presidential election.
“This new study shows 1.8 million excess, or ‘ghost’ voters, in 353 counties across 29 states. This data highlights the recklessness of mailing blindly ballots and ballot applications to voter registration lists. Dirty voting rolls can mean dirty elections.”

German journalist, Stefan Neimann, who is living in Washington, D.C. said:
Niemann said:
“The chaos that Trump lamented with the delivery of mail voting papers is here. I am not allowed to vote here…But three ballots came to my Washington address: for the previous tenant who moved five years ago, the landlady living in Puerto Rico, and her deceased husband.”

All of which works just as well for Republicans as for Democrats.

Trump has lost, get used to it.

That long Ad campaign on TV a while ago was wrong:

The future isn't Orange.
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SirNigel

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I am like vfr on this.
It's up to you what to believe.
The National Crime Agency, with all its investigatory powers; ability to check bank records, phone records, interview witnesses who would only cooperate under threat of arrest, found no evidence. They formally cleared Arron Banks.

But feck it what do they know, i`ll go with the opinion of a bike salesman, you`ve convinced me!
 

oyster

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A total underestimate!! Potential for 1.8million fraudulent ballots.
This mail-in voting has to be thrown out

Analysis finds 353 counties with 1.8 million more registered voters than there are eligible citizens

Posted by: Chris Elliot|October 20, 2020 |Categories Editorial, Featured, Must Reads, News

Judicial Watch recently released a report which showed that 353 counties in the United States are reporting far more registered voters than are legally allowed. That should scare anyone who is concerned about the outcome of this year’s presidential election.
“This new study shows 1.8 million excess, or ‘ghost’ voters, in 353 counties across 29 states. This data highlights the recklessness of mailing blindly ballots and ballot applications to voter registration lists. Dirty voting rolls can mean dirty elections.”

German journalist, Stefan Neimann, who is living in Washington, D.C. said:
Niemann said:
“The chaos that Trump lamented with the delivery of mail voting papers is here. I am not allowed to vote here…But three ballots came to my Washington address: for the previous tenant who moved five years ago, the landlady living in Puerto Rico, and her deceased husband.”

Trump had four years in which he could, if he had wished, have pushed for improvements in voting arrangements.

Thoughtful changes might have got through with support from all sides.

He didn't seem to care in the slightest that such issues might well have ensured his election. Only now that defeat is a real oncoming train.
 

SirNigel

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This Fraud is never ending,

"Saddam Hussein never held an election in which he got all of 23,277 ballots cast. Yet here we are in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, in the United States of America ... and Joe Biden gets 23,277 votes out of 23,277 ballots cast?"

:eek::eek:
 

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The National Crime Agency, with all its investigatory powers; ability to check bank records, phone records, interview witnesses who would only cooperate under threat of arrest, found no evidence. They formally cleared Arron Banks.

But feck it what do they know, i`ll go with the opinion of a bike salesman, you`ve convinced me!
He can take the journalist to Court if he wants to.
My view is that he won't. You don't have to agree.
there is no need to get all het up about this. Let's just leave it at that.
The NCA deals with frauds, Aaron Banks did not defraud anyone nor break any law regarding his donation. I said so myself.
 
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oyster

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This Fraud is never ending,

"Saddam Hussein never held an election in which he got all of 23,277 ballots cast. Yet here we are in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, in the United States of America ... and Joe Biden gets 23,277 votes out of 23,277 ballots cast?"

:eek::eek:
Just 23,277? Peanuts to Saddam Hussein. And he got those votes even if the person was unable to vote at all.

A presidential referendum took place in Iraq on October 16, 2002. It was the second presidential election under the rule of Saddam Hussein (the first having taken place in 1995). According to official statistics, the turnout was 100%, with all 11,445,638 Iraqis registered to vote having voted "yes" in a referendum whether to support another seven year-term for President Saddam Hussein, which would legally have ended in 2009.
 

oyster

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Meanwhile, back at the ranch, our very own National Audit Office is far from convinced about brexit planning:

UK-EU trade faces major disruption even with deal, say auditors
Spending watchdog claims ports and businesses are not ready for 1 January, with Northern Ireland a big concern
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/nov/06/uk-eu-trade-faces-major-disruption-even-with-deal-say-auditors

Not just the Guardian, also, for example, The Times:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/britain-warned-by-national-audit-office-to-be-ready-for-border-chaos-deal-or-no-deal-kdmgblgkw
 
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Barry Shittpeas

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Why are votes still coming in? The election was on Tuesday.

Regardless of whether any fraud has taken place, going to bed knowing that Trump is leading and waking up to find that Biden has suddenly overtaken him in the darkness seems fishy.
 
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SirNigel

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He can take the journalist to Court if he wants to.
My view is that he won't. Court is on 26thNovember!
The NCA deals with frauds, Aaron Banks did not defraud anyone nor break any law regarding his donation. I said so myself. Smart disclaimer mr woosh!
So those on here who previously inferred that he did would you like now to step forward please?
 

oyster

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Why are votes still coming in? The election was on Tuesday.

Regardless of whether any fraud has taken place, going to bed knowing that Trump is leading and waking up to find that Biden has suddenly overtaken him in the darkness seems fishy.
Even in the UK we can see severely delayed results - for example, the ballot boxes for the Scillies or the Western Isles can be delayed due to weather. If the military were send helicopters, it might be impossible to land.

The USA also has a significant number of military personnel around the world who are entitled to vote. Those can take time.

But some of the delay is not with the ballot papers getting to the count, but the detailed approaches they have used. Some allowed mail-in votes to be counted almost as they arrived. Others insisted they could not start counting them until the polls closed. Some demand that in-person ballot papers are counted before mail-in. And so on.
 
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Wicky

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A total underestimate!! Potential for 1.8million fraudulent ballots.
This mail-in voting has to be thrown out

Analysis finds 353 counties with 1.8 million more registered voters than there are eligible citizens

Posted by: Chris Elliot|October 20, 2020 |Categories Editorial, Featured, Must Reads, News

Judicial Watch recently released a report which showed that 353 counties in the United States are reporting far more registered voters than are legally allowed. That should scare anyone who is concerned about the outcome of this year’s presidential election.
“This new study shows 1.8 million excess, or ‘ghost’ voters, in 353 counties across 29 states. This data highlights the recklessness of mailing blindly ballots and ballot applications to voter registration lists. Dirty voting rolls can mean dirty elections.”

German journalist, Stefan Neimann, who is living in Washington, D.C. said:
Niemann said:
“The chaos that Trump lamented with the delivery of mail voting papers is here. I am not allowed to vote here…But three ballots came to my Washington address: for the previous tenant who moved five years ago, the landlady living in Puerto Rico, and her deceased husband.”


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  • Trump claimed “people that have died 10 years ago are still voting,” citing a report that found 1.8 million deceased people remain on voter registration rolls. But the report did not find evidence of wrongdoing, and numerous studies have found such voter fraud is virtually nonexistent.
 
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Wicky

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Why are votes still coming in? The election was on Tuesday.

Regardless of whether any fraud has taken place, going to bed knowing that Trump is leading and waking up to find that Biden has suddenly overtaken him in the darkness seems fishy.
Because Trump appointed over the Summer Louis DeJoy to head the US Post Service who immediately started dismantling it - hence why some posted ballots are still arriving


 

oyster

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Reports coming in from the States are saying that the White House is in a frenzy. The noise from a hundred document shredders all whirring at once must be deafening :D
We have seen many video reports over the years of the messes left by leaders who have been removed (by whatever means, ballot box, popular rebellion or otherwise). For example, Romania:


Tacky and tasteless are automatic.

If Trump does anything other than clean handover, I hope Biden's folk do a full video as they go in.
 

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