Brexit, for once some facts.

[Danidl]

Documentary evidence, pictures, witnesses and cover-up doesn't leave any doubt in my mind, so it's not neither of us, it's just you. The motives and timing for the evidence isn't important.

Don't forget that Bobulinski has promised to testify under oath. He's also offered to be interviewed/cross-examined by any news channel, but none apart from Fox wants to see him.

Funny you never responded to my observation that Bobulinski referred to communications in 2017..when all the Bidens were private citizens. So even were it true it is moot. Now the Trumps getting trademarks in China in 2017 does matter.

 

[flecc]

Sorry flecc, not for the first time we must disagree. Quarantine does work, the NZ and the Chinese show it works.

In their circumstances. They are not by any stretch of the imagination our circumstances. As already posted, China can control in way we simply can't. New Zealand has an enviable isolation and immigration controls far easier to impose than here.
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[RossG]

Documentary evidence, pictures, witnesses and cover-up doesn't leave any doubt in my mind, so it's not neither of us, it's just you. The motives and timing for the evidence isn't important.

Don't forget that Bobulinski has promised to testify under oath. He's also offered to be interviewed/cross-examined by any news channel, but none apart from Fox wants to see him.

Bobulinski well I couldn't make that name up if I tried but someone did, clue... it's from a comic strip.

 

[Danidl]

Who reports the information isn't important. what matters is whether they're telling the truth. Documents, emails, SMS messages, photos and videos are compelling evidence, especially when neither Hunter nor Joe Biden have denied that the laptop and what's on it isn't genuine. Also, what makes me believe that it's all genuine is the way the MSM refused to go and look at it and the way social media tried to supress and invalidate the story. Even they have now admitted that there was nothing to indicate that it was fake at the recent senate hearing, and they've now released the restriction.

The important story is the cover-up, not the story itself. Why did CNN not want to go and see what was on the laptop when they were invited? Wouldn't you be interested if you were a news reporter and somebody said that they had conclusive documentary evidence that crooked things were going on in government?

How do you know they did not ?. Most likely they did a first hand analysis and decided there was nothing there to persue.. especially anything post 2016.
Now the reason the Bidens have not responded is obvious... . Exactly the same reason I have not yet denied I am the Second Coming, or that I own Manhattan...

 

[Danidl]

In their circumstances. They are not by any stretch of the imagination our circumstances. As already posted, China can control in way we simply can't. New Zealand has an enviable isolation and immigration controls far easier to impose than here.
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Actually no... The UK is an Island and since it was by last January outside of the EU ,it was not bound by any treaty except the CTA ,with us...and we would have been very helpful. The UKs failure was idealogical, not legal.

 

[vfr400]

Here's my take on the US elections, where one of two scenarios might play out:

1. Biden wins the election. About three months later, he's either removed or drops out for some other reason that's related to his dementia, which leaves Kamala as President. She's implicated in Hunter Biden's dodgy deals, which the FBI is supposedly investigating, but actually has it on hold while they wait for the results of the election. About 3 months after Biden leaves the presidency, the Republicans start an impeachment against her, which the dems support, and Nancy Pelosi ends up as President, which opens all the doors for the crooked legacy career politicians to do what they've always done.

2. Trump wins. There will be much turmoil shortly after that will be dealt with in a much more robust way than what's happing at the moment. Shortly after, a whole load of senior FBI personnel and their associates will be indicted and go to jail. Joe will be left untouched because of his dementia. Hunter will be indicted for child related offences.

There could be a third scenario, where the result is very close. All I can say is heaven help them if that happens.

 

[vfr400]

How do you know they did not ?.

Bolulinski said so in his interview.

Even now, senior dems are giving character reference for him as a non-partisan.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1322181851134525442

 

[flecc]

Actually no... The UK is an Island and since it was by last January outside of the EU ,it was not bound by any treaty except the CTA ,with us...and we would have been very helpful. The UKs failure was idealogical, not legal.

That reply didn't begin to address what I posted.

We cannot impose like China, we do not have New Zealands isolation or immigration control. And as for us being an island, how does that equate with rubber dinghies turning up on our coast, stowaways on the convoys of thousands of trucks entering and Heathrow with landings from overseas every 90 seconds, something NZ couldn't remotely experience.

Some island.
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[RossG]

Hardly any countries have sorted Covid, we are isolated from the very few because they are very far away. There are none in our region, the whole of Europe is in difficulties with rising infection rates, including those prematurely praised like Germany.
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Many places in Asia - South Asia and so on have it sorted to a fashion, there are no lockdowns, social distancing is not necessary because those around you are not carrying the virus. Wearing of masks is not obligatory although many do as they always have done and young people don't cram into Wetherspoons or have raves just because they are told not to. As I always see it we Brits still think we're living in the days of the Raj, where the sun never set and Punkha Wallah pulled his string for the Memsahib. We are best at everything world beating in fact and those natives know nothing. GOD SAVE THE QUEEN.
Of course reality is a little different that's why we still have the dreaded pox and they don't.

 

[RossG]

Bolulinski said so in his interview.

Even now, senior dems are giving character reference for him as a non-partisan.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1322181851134525442

That's a load of Bolulinski's. I wonder what they called that guy at school ?

 

[RossG]

Here's my take on the US elections, where one of two scenarios might play out:

1. Biden wins the election. About three months later, he's either removed or drops out for some other reason that's related to his dementia, which leaves Kamala as President. She's implicated in Hunter Biden's dodgy deals, which the FBI is supposedly investigating, but actually has it on hold while they wait for the results of the election. About 3 months after Biden leaves the presidency, the Republicans start an impeachment against her, which the dems support, and Nancy Pelosi ends up as President, which opens all the doors for the crooked legacy career politicians to do what they've always done.

2. Trump wins. There will be much turmoil shortly after that will be dealt with in a much more robust way than what's happing at the moment. Shortly after, a whole load of senior FBI personnel and their associates will be indicted and go to jail. Joe will be left untouched because of his dementia. Hunter will be indicted for child related offences.

There could be a third scenario, where the result is very close. All I can say is heaven help them if that happens.

What about the fourth scenario ?

 

[SirNigel]

This is outside the French Embassy in London Friday.

Where's the mass arrests?
Where's the baton attacks, cs gas, water cannon?
Where's the fines?
Why aren’t they wearing masks or being penalised?
Social distancing?
Have the Met ran out of knee-pads or wot? Possibly away breaking up a house party, checking the pubs and restaurants all have the shutters up?

 

[RossG]

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This is outside the French Embassy in London Friday.

Where's the mass arrests?
Where's the baton attacks, cs gas, water cannon?
Where's the fines?
Why aren’t they wearing masks or being penalised?
Social distancing?
Have the Met ran out of knee-pads or wot? Possibly away breaking up a house party, checking the pubs and restaurants all have the shutters up?

You've never been to a Muslim car boot sale ?

 

[OxygenJames]

Exactly as I forecast and demonstrated the other day with its total failure here in London from day one of its introduction. It can't be made to work because it cannot be policed without completely paralysing the country and finally destroying the economy. Freedom of movement of people and goods is the very foundation of our whole economy.

The fact is that none of the defensive measures against the virus are working anywhere in the world, and we are no exception in having the huge current increases in infection.

The defensive measures don't work because they cannot work as I've repeatedly been posting. My first mention of that right at the start of the measures in spring was how supermarket basket handles were virtually never being disinfected, passing from hand to stack and back to hand without any attention. Since about a third of that shopping is done using a basket by the near third of all households that are single person, that system is a failure.

Nor is such disinfecting a success on trolleys, since after an initial burst of a fair degree of compliance many locations are only doing it in cavalier token fashion. At the huge superstore I use almost every trolley goes from hand to hand without any disinfecting, not because of negligence but due to it's structural circumstances. They do some disinfection, but the disinfected trolleys are not the ones that get used.

There are parallels with those failures for every defensive measure tried, from disinfections and social distancing through to the current attempts at tiers.

The only thing that works, but only to a very limited degree, is total lockdown, but the country cannot live with that indefinitely since we cannot live without a fully operational economy.

We might as well take the hit because we all will in the end anyway.
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I have a friend in Chennai (India) - they do not have complete lockdown and do not need one - what they do have is a very effective track and trace system.

But then they have a culture where people have to rely upon each other and not the state (there's no welfare system) - so the moment anybody contracts the virus there is meticulous tracing and quarantine.

Infection rates have significantly dropped and there is no significant second wave.

So I would challenge the idea being put around that 'total lockdown' is the only solution - and as you rightly point out you simply can not keep such a thing going because you actually end up killing more people by the economic and other disruption it causes.

Plus - why should a town in Cornwall with no significant rates of infection have a high level lockdown? It has to be done region by region.

Places that had to deal with previous infectious flu viruses have done way better than we have done - we'll eventually learn - but we're a stubborn (and independently minded) lot so it may take a while.

 

[OxygenJames]

I don’t know why people don’t do their own disinfecting. Outside the homes, I wipe everything down or sanitise my hands after touching it. Petrol pumps, handles, buttons, I clean my hands afterwards or the surface beforehand, it’s become an automatic thing, I hardly think about it now.

Immunology 101: Disinfecting surfaces won't stop a virus - disinfection kills bacteria - this is a virus. Washing with ordinary water or soapy water is effective because it literally washes everything away. But using 'disinfectant' is completely useless.

 

[vfr400]

Funny you never responded to my observation that Bobulinski referred to communications in 2017..when all the Bidens were private citizens. So even were it true it is moot. Now the Trumps getting trademarks in China in 2017 does matter.

You seem to think that it's one or the other. Whatever Trump did has nothing to do with what Biden did. If Trump shot someone for nothing, it wouldn't make Biden's crimes not crimes. You're just using distraction tactics to try and avoid the Truth.

 

[mike killay]

I love it...... exquisite satire... he's the best all right at Tax avoidance, and when you say that you've pretty much said everything.

You are gullible and accepting of Democrat half lies.
1. The US revenue is one of the most fierce in the world. Do you honestly believe that they have not taxed President properly?
2 What evidence do you have that he has avoided tax, and more importantly, how did he manage it?

I shall be interested in seeing the evidence that you bring forward.

 

[RossG]

Immunology 101: Disinfecting surfaces won't stop a virus - disinfection kills bacteria - this is a virus. Washing with ordinary water or soapy water is effective because it literally washes everything away. But using 'disinfectant' is completely useless.

Some Disinfectants are affective against covid but most are not. I don't use them for keeping covid at bay preferring certain brands of sanitiser instead. The best stuff is bleach and ironically also the cheapest, just don't spray it all over your furniture though.

 

[RossG]

You are gullible and accepting of Democrat half lies.
1. The US revenue is one of the most fierce in the world. Do you honestly believe that they have not taxed President properly?
2 What evidence do you have that he has avoided tax, and more importantly, how did he manage it?

I shall be interested in seeing the evidence that you bring forward.

1: Trump has avoided paying hundreds of millions of dollars tax by employing legal loopholes, ergo he has avoided paying it.
2: He has proudly admitted it.

 

[Barry Shittpeas]

Immunology 101: Disinfecting surfaces won't stop a virus - disinfection kills bacteria - this is a virus. Washing with ordinary water or soapy water is effective because it literally washes everything away. But using 'disinfectant' is completely useless.

I believe that you are wrong. Firstly, disinfecting is a process, not a product. The process of disinfecting is the removal of contamination. For example, bleach kills coronavirus, so a surface can be disinfected with a bleach soaked cloth.

This is what the World Health Organisation says about disinfecting:

The World Health Organisation (WHO) advises the use of diluted Sodium Hypochlorite (bleach) at 0.5% to regularly disinfect frequently touched surfaces such as door handles, kitchen surfaces, and bathroom surfaces.

Hope you find this useful and it helps to keep you safe.