Brexit, for once some facts.

SirNigel

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1: Trump has avoided paying hundreds of millions of dollars tax by employing legal loopholes, ergo he has avoided paying it. <--- Link if you please
2: He has proudly admitted it. <---Link if you please?
or don`t you have any??
 

Danidl

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You seem to think that it's one or the other. Whatever Trump did has nothing to do with what Biden did. If Trump shot someone for nothing, it wouldn't make Biden's crimes not crimes. You're just using distraction tactics to try and avoid the Truth.
The Dates are important , or is subtraction a little too abstract for you
You are gullible and accepting of Democrat half lies.
1. The US revenue is one of the most fierce in the world. Do you honestly believe that they have not taxed President properly?
2 What evidence do you have that he has avoided tax, and more importantly, how did he manage it?

I shall be interested in seeing the evidence that you bring forward.
Well 750 dollars as a tax bill is very compelling. ..from a multi millionaire would you not think?.
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Barry Shittpeas

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Woohoo, furlough ends tomorrow. This will help us fight the virus. Scrap the job support scheme too and we will start making real headway.
 

jonathan.agnew

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Woohoo, furlough ends tomorrow. This will help us fight the virus. Scrap the job support scheme too and we will start making real headway.
God. entitled tories with their hatred of the working class. What is that about? Do you really think robbing common folk of a livelihood, making them desperate will reduce transmission? What do you think desperate people do? What would you do? Break the law off course, provide services and sell goods and run shops one isnt allowed to to put food on the table.
 

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Cummings...

Dossier alleges Cummings may have perverted course of justice in account of lockdown trip
New evidence sent to CPS contradicts statement given by Boris Johnson’s top adviser
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/oct/30/dossier-alleges-cummings-may-have-perverted-course-of-justice-in-account-of-lockdown-trip

Of course, Cummings' continued refusal to submit phone/car/whatever else for examination is making him appear guilty with an increasing degree of certainty in the eyes of many.
 
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OxygenJames

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Immunology 101: Disinfecting surfaces won't stop a virus - disinfection kills bacteria - this is a virus. Washing with ordinary water or soapy water is effective because it literally washes everything away. But using 'disinfectant' is completely useless.
Immunology 101 update: I may be wrong. Providing the disinfectant is 60-80% it may kill this virus - though the evidence is not as clear as one would like it to be given how many places seem to think a quirt of 'disinfectant' offers any real protection.
 
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OxygenJames

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Some Disinfectants are affective against covid but most are not. I don't use them for keeping covid at bay preferring certain brands of sanitiser instead. The best stuff is bleach and ironically also the cheapest, just don't spray it all over your furniture though.
Thanks Ross. I was going simply on the fact that classically a 'disinfectant' is used for bacteria not virus - but apparently some (though it's not clear which) disinfectants do indeed kill the covid virus.
 
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OxygenJames

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You are gullible and accepting of Democrat half lies.
1. The US revenue is one of the most fierce in the world. Do you honestly believe that they have not taxed President properly?
2 What evidence do you have that he has avoided tax, and more importantly, how did he manage it?

I shall be interested in seeing the evidence that you bring forward.
OJ+ evidence?!!! HA!!!!!! Come on. Be reasonable.
 

oyster

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Thanks Ross. I was going simply on the fact that classically a 'disinfectant' is used for bacteria not virus - but apparently some (though it's not clear which) disinfectants do indeed kill the covid virus.
Alcohol kills covid. And bacteria. And, for that matter, people.

At the start of the year, several cleaning product companies were being very careful not to claim they kill covid. But we have seen several validated now. I think common or garden bleach does.
 

OxygenJames

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I believe that you are wrong. Firstly, disinfecting is a process, not a product. The process of disinfecting is the removal of contamination. For example, bleach kills coronavirus, so a surface can be disinfected with a bleach soaked cloth.

This is what the World Health Organisation says about disinfecting:

The World Health Organisation (WHO) advises the use of diluted Sodium Hypochlorite (bleach) at 0.5% to regularly disinfect frequently touched surfaces such as door handles, kitchen surfaces, and bathroom surfaces.

Hope you find this useful and it helps to keep you safe.
Thanks - I've tried to correct myself already on this. What gets me is that it is really not clear anywhere which disinfectants work and which ones won't - because historically my understanding is that 'disinfectants' have been aimed at bacterial infections not viral ones.

But WTF. I've been wrong before and no doubt I will be again.
 

Barry Shittpeas

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God. entitled tories with their hatred of the working class. What is that about? Do you really think robbing common folk of a livelihood, making them desperate will reduce transmission? What do you think desperate people do? What would you do? Break the law off course, provide services and sell goods and run shops one isnt allowed to to put food on the table.
People are behaving like they don’t have a care in the world. They are safe in the knowledge that any reckless behaviour is unlikely to affect them. If they spread the virus and cause a national lockdown, no problem, the state will step in and bail them out. Look at the scenes of those ***** in Nottingham last night.

These fuckers need to have some skin in the game. If they know that unnecessarily spreading the virus is going to hit them hard, they will think twice.

Furlough was a disaster. People just had a mass bank holiday. ****** off to the beach for a $hit in a burger box. The building trade carried on working for cash whilst claiming furlough and business support grants.
 
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oyster

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1. The US revenue is one of the most fierce in the world. Do you honestly believe that they have not taxed President properly?
The POTUS believes they have not taxed him properly. It certainly appears that is why he has failed to disclose his tax accounts despite repeatedly saying he would do so.

The "audit" excuse completely inverts his "don't care what the rules are, I'll do it regardless" approach.
 
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jonathan.agnew

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People are behaving like they don’t have a care in the world. They are safe in the knowledge that any reckless behaviour is unlikely to affect them. If they spread the virus and cause a national lockdown, no problem, the state will step in and bail them out. Look at the scenes of those ***** in Nottingham last night.

These fuckers need to have some skin in the game. If they know that unnecessarily spreading the virus is going to hit them hard, they will think twice.

Furlough was a disaster. People just had a mass bank holiday. ****** off to the beach for a $hit in a burger box. The building trade carried on working for cash whilst claiming furlough and business support grants.
Some humanity may be in order. We live in an unequal society. When I saw the roofer on my neighbours roof retching and coughing at 7 am on cold mornings during furlough, he looked desperate, not careless. Most of us on the thread have rental properties, pensions, decent salaries. We can afford to isolate in relative comfort.
 

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historically my understanding is that 'disinfectants' have been aimed at bacterial infections not viral ones.
I'm quite sure you are right and the advertising backs you:

"Kills 99% of all known germs" is what is always claimed, and germs are bacteria.

Tough if one meets the 1% or any of the unknown ones.
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jonathan.agnew

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Many places in Asia - South Asia and so on have it sorted to a fashion, there are no lockdowns, social distancing is not necessary because those around you are not carrying the virus. Wearing of masks is not obligatory although many do as they always have done and young people don't cram into Wetherspoons or have raves just because they are told not to. As I always see it we Brits still think we're living in the days of the Raj, where the sun never set and Punkha Wallah pulled his string for the Memsahib. We are best at everything world beating in fact and those natives know nothing. GOD SAVE THE QUEEN.
Of course reality is a little different that's why we still have the dreaded pox and they don't.
Farting nora. Infection is spreading four times faster than government's worse case scenario (that estimated 85k deaths over winter) (BBC)
 
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Well 750 dollars as a tax bill is very compelling. ..from a multi millionaire would you not think?.
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That's completely fake. The $750 was nothing to do with actual tax. It was an admin bill, like a registration fee. Trump submitted his tax returns ages ago. He did the same as I have done in the past. You get fined if you don't pay your tax on time, so while any tax queries are being sorted out, you pay an amount in advance that will more than cover however much you think they will work it out to, then you get a refund of any excess you paid after it's all sorted, or you can leave the balance in your account for next time.

He paid multi-millions in advance tax. That won't show in his account as tax paid until the final reckoning. They're still trying to figure out how much he actually has to pay because there is a lot of figuring out and always a bit of negotiation with massive and complex accounts like he has. The amount will be deducted from the money they are holding on his behalf, then he'll get a refund of any excess he paid.

They're being very economic with the truth. What they're saying is that there is no entry in his tax account as tax paid because they haven't yet worked out what it should be, but they know he's paid money on account.
 
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Danidl

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I'm quite sure you are right and the advertising backs you:

"Kills 99% of all known germs" is what is always claimed, and germs are bacteria.

Tough if one meets the 1% or any of the unknown ones.
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yes ... and that 1% can multiply in hours to 1000% percent, especially when all the competition is wiped out , leaving their dead corpses as potential food.
 
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