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Cassie's Law > https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-33674219
More questions for next press briefing re. Cummings
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Brexit, for once some facts.
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Cassie's Law > https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-33674219
More questions for next press briefing re. Cummings
Although I gave an overall agree, I do not agree that we are more wary now. If anything it's the opposite and everyone I speak to says they are fed up with lockdown and thinks the whole infection thing has been exaggerated.
Certainly I'm no longer bothering with concentration on distancing any more. Instead of driving to a safe spot, for weeks now for exercise I go into the nature reserve right next to me. That means one of two long narrow fenced paths used by many others from our couple of thousands living along this 800 metre long road, so we pass very close to each other on the paths and often speak too. See this link for all the photos in the reserve credited to me on the Sightings page of our organisation's web site since 12th April.
You wouldn't have made your comments if you'd seen how packed the reserve was on Bank Holiday Monday! Walkers, cyclists, so many games of football on the meadows that they were getting tangled with each other and all the sun bathers.
Health Secretary Matt Hancock would have had kittens.
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Quick word about copper keeping the bug away, yes absolutely true. You can buy copper spray for plants to kill off mildew and other parasites. Incidentally stainless is the exact opposite I believe, it can stick around for days on that metal.
Now here's a thought to ponder....cardboard is supposed to hold onto covid for quite some time, so how come we were told it's ok to handle mail from the postman ? I don't, mail gets picked up with a gloved hand opened with a letter opener and important letters placed into clear plastic sleeves so I can read without touching them.
Bills go straight into the bin naturally......well there is a war on you know
Now here's a thought to ponder....cardboard is supposed to hold onto covid for quite some time, so how come we were told it's ok to handle mail from the postman ? I don't, mail gets picked up with a gloved hand opened with a letter opener and important letters placed into clear plastic sleeves so I can read without touching them.
Bills go straight into the bin naturally......well there is a war on you know
The classic grape protection was Bordeaux mixture - copper suphate and slaked lime.
I accept your point about the bills .. but no cardboard is not a bad substrate. The Chinese study was a 10 fold decrease in activity per hour . Our policy is if the postman knocks, and we open the door , he drops the letter and parcels and they stay in the sunlit porch for probably a dayQuick word about copper keeping the bug away, yes absolutely true. You can buy copper spray for plants to kill off mildew and other parasites. Incidentally stainless is the exact opposite I believe, it can stick around for days on that metal.
Now here's a thought to ponder....cardboard is supposed to hold onto covid for quite some time, so how come we were told it's ok to handle mail from the postman ? I don't, mail gets picked up with a gloved hand opened with a letter opener and important letters placed into clear plastic sleeves so I can read without touching them.
Bills go straight into the bin naturally......well there is a war on you know
There was a select committee recording shown on tv last night about how this crisis could have been averted and so on. There was mention again about the people that were entering the UK even though a Pandemic was in the offing and was that wise. I had heard that health officials were asked at the time how would letting people into the country possibly carrying covid help us to rid it. The reply was that as it was already here it didn't matter anymore, it was just too late to stop it. Well it turns out (wait for this ) that people bringing it in to the UK were being tested and tracked, which amazingly ceased, and at that point there was no known cases here from our own transmission.
To put it another way we had it under control then blew it, so who was the smart arse who said it's alright to let it come back in again ?
To put it another way we had it under control then blew it, so who was the smart arse who said it's alright to let it come back in again ?
It's generally reckoned to be around 24 hours for cardboard, but then surely it would be the same for paper letters in that case. What is interesting is that covid takes time to affect you, but what's not always realized is it takes time to kill as well. We can use sprays, bleach & sanitizers etc but they don't work instantly. Again it's said a through job with say bleach would require leaving it on the item for at least 10 min. not always practical.
Sunlight works especially at this time of year, but again the Ultra Violet that's most effective is not very strong in our sunlight...thank god for that.
A quick heads-up to those no too scientifically minded, if you want to leave things in the sun and make the most of it's UV don't put the items on a windowsill behind glass as that will inhibit the Ultra Violet radiation. Open up your window and put it on the outside for full effect.
BJ questioned live on the box
Rambling nonsense - and desperately saying put Cummings escapades' behind him / brush it all under the carpet.
Rambling nonsense - and desperately saying put Cummings escapades' behind him / brush it all under the carpet.
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If you’re phoned up by a contact tracer and told to stay at home as you’ve had contact with an infected person, is staying at home compulsory or can people use their judgement, Clark asks.
Johnson says no, they will be asking people to stay at home. If people don’t follow that advice, financial sanctions will be considered.
You should self-isolate, he adds. If people don’t, we’ll consider fines.
What a nonsense. We know people will not stay at home (I refer you to seconds ago in the hearing!) so must a) make clear it is compulsory with no childcare let-out; b) have fines from the get-go (or not at all).
The irony of introducing at least a degree of compulsion which, so it appears, would have forced Cummings to remain at home yet supporting him in his failure to remain at home.
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Yet again, the poor, who probably don't have much option anyway (as a rule), fearing fines and the rich able to ignore them in many ways. Not least, by being able easily to afford them.
If any politicians or advisers fail to adhere, will they be defended as strongly as Cummings?
Johnson says no, they will be asking people to stay at home. If people don’t follow that advice, financial sanctions will be considered.
You should self-isolate, he adds. If people don’t, we’ll consider fines.
What a nonsense. We know people will not stay at home (I refer you to seconds ago in the hearing!) so must a) make clear it is compulsory with no childcare let-out; b) have fines from the get-go (or not at all).
The irony of introducing at least a degree of compulsion which, so it appears, would have forced Cummings to remain at home yet supporting him in his failure to remain at home.
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Yet again, the poor, who probably don't have much option anyway (as a rule), fearing fines and the rich able to ignore them in many ways. Not least, by being able easily to afford them.
If any politicians or advisers fail to adhere, will they be defended as strongly as Cummings?
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I hate the phrase, “it’s time to move on.” It’s just another way of saying, shut up, don’t talk about it anymore and keep you concerns to yourself. I wish the police had “moved on” when I was caught speeding about 5 years ago, it would have been great if they’d “moved on” and forgot about my offence.
Did you know about the changes to shielding?
Cancer, transplant and asthma patients axed from shielding list by text message
Outcry after people told they would lose government support without doctors being able to talk to them first
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/27/phone-texts-notify-cancer-transplant-and-asthma-patients-they-are-off-shielding-list
Cancer, transplant and asthma patients axed from shielding list by text message
Outcry after people told they would lose government support without doctors being able to talk to them first
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/27/phone-texts-notify-cancer-transplant-and-asthma-patients-they-are-off-shielding-list