Unfortunately, we seem to need lots of new hallowed ground...
Brexit, for once some facts.
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The inference I take is that our actual cases are much higher than shown.
Netherlands also has a very low number of recovered - 289. And Brazil is also very low - but nobody believes their figures at all.
Not wishing to defend our politicians, but Germany have been testing more, so it’s likely that thousands have had it & recovered in the U.K. without being detected on the radar. The death rate is appalling. There are serious questions needing answers. Trouble is, no one is asking them.
Germany
Coronavirus Cases:
123,878
Deaths:
2,736
Recovered:
53,913
Last updated: April 11, 2020, 19:02 GMT
United Kingdom
Coronavirus Cases:
78,991
Deaths:
9,875
Recovered:
344
This is tragic: heads should have rolled by now
Germany:
confirmed cases: 123,878
deaths: 2,736 = 2.2%
UK:
confirmed cases: 78,991
deaths: 9,875 = 12.5%
Our scientists assume that the fatality rate of CV is about 1%, the real number of cases in the UK is around 79k*12= 948k, the real number of cases in Germany is 124k*2.2=272k.
Their starting point is about the same time as us, they detect half of their cases, we detect less than 5% of cases and miss 95% of cases. All those of us either have the virus without symptom or die at home won't be tested. Consequently, Germany keeps the rate fo inflection 4 times lower than ours.
More importantly, their chance of stamping out the disease is 10 times better than ours because they only miss a fraction of cases compared to what we will have to deal with. Consequently, their economic cost is only a fraction of ours.
Back in January when we could have joined with other European countries to work out the best way to deal with COVID, BJ was consumed by one thing: get brexit done.
I wonder what BJ will have to say after the dust has settled.
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40-49 year olds 74% discharged / 26 died and 50–59 year olds 58.9% discharged / 41.1% died
An analysis of 3,883 Covid-19 patients admitted to 229 critical care units in England, Wales and Northern Ireland up to Thursday has been published by the Intensive Care National Audit & Research Centre.
Of these patients, 871 have died, 818 have been discharged, and 2,194 were last reported as still receiving critical care.
The average age of the patients was 59.8 years. Some 72.5% were male, and 27.5% female. Some 66.4% were white, 14.4% Asian, 11.9% black, and 1.3% of mixed race.
An analysis of 3,883 Covid-19 patients admitted to 229 critical care units in England, Wales and Northern Ireland up to Thursday has been published by the Intensive Care National Audit & Research Centre.
Of these patients, 871 have died, 818 have been discharged, and 2,194 were last reported as still receiving critical care.
The average age of the patients was 59.8 years. Some 72.5% were male, and 27.5% female. Some 66.4% were white, 14.4% Asian, 11.9% black, and 1.3% of mixed race.
- Nearly three-quarters of the patients had a body mass index higher than the recommended healthy level of 18.5 to 25. Some 35% had a BMI of 25 to 30 - the overweight range. And 38.5% had a BMI over more than 30 - putting them in the obese range.
- 93.2% had previously been able to live without assistance in daily activities. Only 6.7% previously needed some assistance, and just three needed total assistance.
- Focusing on the 1,053 patients who needed advanced respiratory support, the average age on admission was 61.9 years. 73% were male, 27% female. Out of this group, 66.3% died, and 33.7% are alive.
- Examining the final outcome for patients admitted to critical care, for the 133 aged 16-39, 76.7% were discharged alive, and 23.3% died. For the 484 aged 60-69, 43.6% were discharged alive, and 56.4% died. For the 434 aged 70-79, 31.3% were discharged alive, and 68.7% died. And for the 107 aged over 80, 27.1% were discharged alive, and 72.9% died.
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Lord Michael Heseltine insists that Boris Johnson is crucial to the UK's response to coronavirus and is fundamental to planning for coming out of lockdown.
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In that case we are doomed based on his recent performance, we'd be better off with Larry the Cat
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Lord Michael Heseltine insists that Boris Johnson is crucial to the UK's response to coronavirus and is fundamental to planning for coming out of lockdown.
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In that case we are doomed based on his recent performance, we'd be better off with Larry the Cat
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-national-coronavirus-testing-centre-only-conducting-1500-tests-a-day-11971991
Coronavirus: National coronavirus testing centre only conducting 1,500 tests a day
Leaked emails show the government's target of conducting 100,000 tests every day by the end of April is a long way off.
Nothing that comes from this Government is likely to be even remotely connected to the truth
Coronavirus: National coronavirus testing centre only conducting 1,500 tests a day
Leaked emails show the government's target of conducting 100,000 tests every day by the end of April is a long way off.
Nothing that comes from this Government is likely to be even remotely connected to the truth
And to show it isn't just one country:
| Austria | |
| Cases: | 13,798 |
| Deaths: | 337 |
| Recovered: | 6,604 |
2.44% |
he knows that Starmer and Ed Miliband won't be bullied in the HoC like Corbyn was.
Looks to me like Starmer & Co are doing a lot of preparation. And starting to take action:
Lisa Nandy seeks urgent meeting with Foreign Office over Covid-19 repatriations
Shadow foreign secretary wants to know why thousands remain stranded a fortnight after £75m rescue mission was announced
Those 100000 tests / day were never going to happen. Testing doesn’t make a profit so it’s useless.
Who’s holding these people to account? Where is the new leader of the opposition? The BBC have been nobbled, there’s no doubt about that, so we need someone asking questions.
That’s just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. We need to make sure there is something for them to come back to first.
They said O is the universal donor. I told them I didn't want them to make a kebab out of me.
Just what sort of negotiators are they? Good enough for brexit trade deals? Or unable to buy some untested kit with a guarantee? How come Hancock claimed so much when he was buying this crap?
Reveal cost of 3.5m unusable Covid-19 tests, health chiefs told
Payment was guaranteed for antibody kits designed to show who was immune but they later proved wildly inaccurate
Reveal cost of 3.5m unusable Covid-19 tests, health chiefs told
Payment was guaranteed for antibody kits designed to show who was immune but they later proved wildly inaccurate
I heard on the radio yesterday that the France figures include people that had died in nursing homes, ours do not. The report did not say if the French numbers also included people who had died at home.
I don't know how much of a difference including the nursing home figures makes, anyone got any idea?