Brexit, for once some facts.
- Thread starter flecc
- Start date
It didn't emphasise sufficiently that people up and down the country were watching press briefings where PM, CMO, etc., were too close and the journos were packed in. Contempt for everyone's health.
Luckily I just ordered all of of those, just waiting to get a Tesco delivery slot...
More seriously, I do have plenty of liquorice.
And from early 20th century medicine we have offerings like intravenous potassium permanganate if you slide into pneumonia.
Last edited:
Possibly we should be considering that quite a few Greeks live on islands? Not long ago, Corfu was one of the few remaining "tourist" destinations which were without any cases confirmed. And, IIRC, Mykonos.Not a good start Boris
Coronavirus Action Plan Gov.UK
The most significant paragraph is this one
vidence to date points toward 2019-nCoV having the potential to be the second-most-severe respiratory pathogen pandemic in the last century have comparable severity to the 1918 flu pandemic in the absence of effective control and treatment, when averaged across all ages.
Estimated attributable excess mortality in the UK
200,000 Young adults, elderly and young children
Assuming intervention ineffective.
The most significant paragraph is this one
vidence to date points toward 2019-nCoV having the potential to be the second-most-severe respiratory pathogen pandemic in the last century have comparable severity to the 1918 flu pandemic in the absence of effective control and treatment, when averaged across all ages.
Estimated attributable excess mortality in the UK
200,000 Young adults, elderly and young children
Assuming intervention ineffective.
The problem with her analysis is that.Telegraph idiot journalist of the day
1. Most people under 50 have some medical condition, be it obesity, smoking related COPD, diabetes , undetected heart mumurs and burees . Life has a habit of making us ill at some time,and the effects are lasting.
2. There is no guarantee...in fact there is now evidence that CV19, in itself damages lungs. Those people who get such a mild dose that they don't even notice the illness, are reckoned to be susceptible to get it a second time.. ( not yet proven, but suspicious)
Dying of cancer or in a road traffic accident are at least spread out over the next, what?, 30 to 50 years. Surely she can't mean over the same time period? Can she? Otherwise she doesn't half live on some dangerous roads.
Dying of covid-19 seems likely to be within the next week to eighteen months.
And, as you say, covid-19 might well have a sting (or more) in its tail. I have already seen anecdotal suggestions that it might precipitate shingles.
Why not actually every single day?
Patel, asked where she had been in recent weeks, said she had been working “virtually every single day” on a range of policy areas related to the pandemic.
My mother used to tell me of people saying "Don't you know there's a war on?" to excuse or explain everything. Patel, don't you know there's a coronavirus crisis on?
Or, for Raab: Wot, no foreign secretary? (Thanks Lisa Nandy.)
Patel, asked where she had been in recent weeks, said she had been working “virtually every single day” on a range of policy areas related to the pandemic.
My mother used to tell me of people saying "Don't you know there's a war on?" to excuse or explain everything. Patel, don't you know there's a coronavirus crisis on?
Or, for Raab: Wot, no foreign secretary? (Thanks Lisa Nandy.)
Priti Patel was the most competent person available to the UK government today. It seems important to point this out. 
She's worse at SUMS than Dianne Abbott
"Priti Patel: "Three hundred thousand and thirty four, nine hundred and seventy four thousand tests carried out across the UK"
She's worse at SUMS than Dianne Abbott
"Priti Patel: "Three hundred thousand and thirty four, nine hundred and seventy four thousand tests carried out across the UK"
Last edited:
As long as there's enough beds and staff to admit everyone infected needing hospital treatment. If hospitals are overwhelmed then otherwise people who could recover could likely die without treatment.Telegraph idiot journalist of the day
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/coronavirus-us-hospital-admissions-young-adults-elderly-a9411016.html
‘There will be people age 20 and up. They have to be careful, even if they think that they’re young and healthy,’ says public health professor
American adults of all ages — not just those in their 70s, 80s and 90s — are being seriously sickened by the coronavirus, according to a report on nearly 2,500 of the first recorded cases in the United States.
The report, issued Wednesday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, found that — as in other countries — the oldest patients had the greatest likelihood of dying and of being hospitalised. But of the 508 patients known to have been hospitalised, 38 per cent were notably younger — between 20 and 54. And nearly half of the 121 patients who were admitted to intensive care units were adults under 65, the CDC reported.
Journalists should have a compulsory understanding statistics course. (On the assumption that they have the mental capacity ...)
Germany
Coronavirus Cases:
123,878
Deaths:
2,736
Recovered:
53,913
Last updated: April 11, 2020, 19:02 GMT
United Kingdom
Coronavirus Cases:
78,991
Deaths:
9,875
Recovered:
344
This is tragic: heads should have rolled by now
Last edited:
Updated from Johns Hopkins:
Germany
Cases: 123,878
Deaths: 2,736
Recovered: 53,913
UK
Cases: 79,865
Deaths: 9,891
Recovered: 614
(And that paltry number of recovered already seems to include half of Downing Street leaving precious few recoveries for the rest of the population.)
I still cannot get my head around why our "recovered" numbers are about the worst in the world.
But the Germans were unadventurous and just followed WHO advice.
Update
The number of people to have died in the UK after contracting #coronavirus has leapt by 917 to 9,875 (via
@LBCNews
)
We were much braver in treading exciting new ground.
"Once more into the breach dear friends
and close the wards up with our English dead"
If you don't test until somebody's nearly dead, and only count tested cases, the recovery rate will be very low. Even lower if you don't test the recovered ones so don't count them as recovered.
Also, to be a little fairer it may be some tested as recovered aren't really.