This is probably what Boris thinks floods are like:
Well, maybe not, but that is where is hiding, we hear. Chevening.
Brexit, for once some facts.
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Well, maybe not, but that is where is hiding, we hear. Chevening.
David Frost, apparently "our" brexit negotiator (even if brexit is a forbidden term):
Describing Treasury predictions in 2018 about the economy after Brexit as “speculative”, Frost said the studies exaggerated the impact of non-tariff barriers and customs costs to businesses and failed to recognise the likely upside of an increase in productivity.
He said: “There is obviously a one-off cost from the introduction of friction and a customs and regulatory border but I am simply not convinced it is anything like the scale of effect that these studies suggest …
One-off! What sort of utter blindness and ignorance is that? We will be paying that cost every minute of every day for eternity. (Or until we re-join or whatever.)
Describing Treasury predictions in 2018 about the economy after Brexit as “speculative”, Frost said the studies exaggerated the impact of non-tariff barriers and customs costs to businesses and failed to recognise the likely upside of an increase in productivity.
He said: “There is obviously a one-off cost from the introduction of friction and a customs and regulatory border but I am simply not convinced it is anything like the scale of effect that these studies suggest …
One-off! What sort of utter blindness and ignorance is that? We will be paying that cost every minute of every day for eternity. (Or until we re-join or whatever.)
the fact that duty and VAT on cigarettes brought in about £7 billions a year while the cost borne by the NHS due to tobacco is about £2 billions may explain why successive government have not banned cigarette sales.Or indeed any other previous government for the last XXX years
On the other hand, the correlation of burning fossil fuel and humidity in the atmosphere seems to be well established. A law obliging companies to be carbon neutral would not be detrimental to society.
Idiot of the day award to this man
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The UK's Brexit negotiator also dismissed the idea an EU court would have a role in future trade disputes, saying: "We only want what other independent countries have."
Wouldn't it be a good idea to send someone who actually knows how the system works?
Continuously relying on supporters being too thick to understand you are talking nonsense again seems to be Government policy
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The UK's Brexit negotiator also dismissed the idea an EU court would have a role in future trade disputes, saying: "We only want what other independent countries have."
Wouldn't it be a good idea to send someone who actually knows how the system works?
Continuously relying on supporters being too thick to understand you are talking nonsense again seems to be Government policy
The latest excuse for Boris is
The Prime minister's views are well publicised
Here for your delectation is a small sample
Not a good start Boris
The Prime minister's views are well publicised
Here for your delectation is a small sample
Not a good start Boris
All political parties do things that suit their aims rather than suit society in general. It’s unfair to say that XXX party should have done something when in fact all governments have opportunities to do things but choose not to.
There are always inconsistencies in words versus actions and whilst government bashing is a very popular activity in the media and on other platforms it’s almost always exaggerated and unfair.... if you are willing to balance the reality of the alternates.
Here is an example that will be unpopular here on what is seemingly a very vocal anti conservative thread. Let’s protect the NHS in from privatisation! There have been countless opportunities for previous governments and opposition coalitions, for generations to legislate preventing “ selling off our NHS” you might think that to protect the NHS from privatisation would be a prime objective for some parties. Plaid Cymru just recently at the end of the last government administration tried to do that. Surprise surprise , the majority holding Labour government did not support it and voted it down (I think 37 to 7 against) of course if you protect the NHS from privatisation in law you can’t jump about claiming the conservatives are going to sell our precious NHS ...
Of course the spin Doctors came up with plausible stories why it wouldn’t be the correct thing to do, but in truth it was simply because it is an opportunity to sway voters. On this occasion the excuse Welsh Labour used was that it wouldn’t be right for the principality to affect future trade discussions. This is where it becomes obvious that there are no moral principles involved. Protection could have been done almost anytime since the inception of the NHS but Labour choose not to. Slogans about NHS privatisation are damned handy during an election campaign.
So when people shout about what XXX government should do I always smile quietly to myself and think yep.. and why didn’t YYY do it......and do you really believe that ZZZ will do it in the future.
This isn't the "Best country in the worlds to live in" Boris promised
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/02/17/climate-change-means-homeowners-should-no-longer-expect-protection/
Climate change means homeowners should no longer expect protection from floods, government to announce
Homes and businesses will be told to accept that major floods are inevitable under radical plans drawn up by the Environment Agency
Hang on a minute what happened to the EU being to blame?
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/630725/EU-ban-river-dredging-blamed-flooding-crisis
EU is to BLAME for floods: Brussels ban on river dredging made crisis worse, say farmers
BRITAIN'S battle with flooding has been exacerbated by strict rules imposed by the European Union (EU) which prevent farmers dredging rivers, it is claimed.
So now we know: because we caused the problem ourselves the government won't do anything to protect the public.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/02/17/climate-change-means-homeowners-should-no-longer-expect-protection/
Climate change means homeowners should no longer expect protection from floods, government to announce
Homes and businesses will be told to accept that major floods are inevitable under radical plans drawn up by the Environment Agency
Hang on a minute what happened to the EU being to blame?
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/630725/EU-ban-river-dredging-blamed-flooding-crisis
EU is to BLAME for floods: Brussels ban on river dredging made crisis worse, say farmers
BRITAIN'S battle with flooding has been exacerbated by strict rules imposed by the European Union (EU) which prevent farmers dredging rivers, it is claimed.
So now we know: because we caused the problem ourselves the government won't do anything to protect the public.
And yet, next year, it appears that duty free will once again return to many foreign holidays and trips.
they pretty much set the bar at the lowest in trade negotiation with the EU.
On the basis that individuals cannot hold back floods, just what are they supposed to do to protect themselves? (Odd exceptions, maybe, for boys with fingers and dykes.)
Assuming that the government doesn't expect everyone to abandon anywhere prone to flooding (obviously without compensation), those affected by such a threat would need to band together. Maybe create an organisation for protecting the population? Collect money. Organise works. Maybe extend the protection to other things like "health", "fire", "crime"? And, every so often let all those covered choose who is to run the organisation.
Could call these local organisations something like "councils". Maybe set one up for the whole country and call it a "government".
One thing is a cert, it should not be run by the current so-called government.
Don't worry, all is well:
The new environment secretary, George Eustice, on Monday defended the government’s record on responding to the storms, and to the wider issue of flooding. “The government has a firm grip on this,” he told Sky News. “It’s a very difficult situation, with widespread flood alerts, but our flood defences are working as intended.”
If this is as intended, god help us all. Someone voted for these people who have such intentions?
government bashing is popular because the majority of voters did not vote for this government, posters on this thread reflects nearly accurately national average.
Privatisation is understood not to mean turning the NHS into a quoted company, just sub-contract out juicy low hanging fruits to private companies, such as eye operations, hip replacement and which drugs at what price.
Also, contracts with consultants allow them to recruit customers at NHS hospitals.
How dare you! I represent the "idiot fringe" or so I have repeatedly been told in no uncertain terms.
Average indeed....damned with faint praise once again..
If IQ and limbo dancing are both genetically determined, I suspect Sabinsky would very much be below the 80% level under the limbo.And then Limbo danced under it
I used to.How dare you! I represent the "idiot fringe" or so I have repeatedly been told.
Average indeed....damned with faint praise once again..
Then I got my hair cut.
We need to stop building houses. In the town closest to me, they have bulldozed an area of woodland on a hillside to cram in hundreds of houses and tarmac. The hillside has a lake at the bottom which feeds into a stream which runs through several villages downstream. Guess what's happened? The water has run off the new tarmac hillside, into the stream and caused flooding in the villages. What a surprise.
Another new development closely-by, built in a low lying area which has traditionally always flooded, has, well, flooded over the weekend. It's only been built within the last 18 months and they had diesel pumping sets down there pumping water out of the estate and back into the stream, which had burst its banks and caused the flooding in the first place.
We have too many houses, too much tarmac and too many people. That's the problem. The country is overloaded, it's not suitable for such a massive & uncontrolled population expansion.
I suspect that the majority of the voters didn't vote for a lot of the policies that are coming out of the woodwork.
With the exception of Scotland, Wales, and much of the North of course, if only maps extended beyond the M25!
And of course locally we are in the process of demolishing the last of the 10,000 redundant houses in the city
Are we both on the same planet, one wonders?