Brexit, for once some facts.
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This not being a topic I have any familiarity with, I did what most reasonable people do... I read up the eHrc website . I find that that allegations were made, information requested ,a due date given ,a due date passed.. some 5 months ago and SILENCE.
Making allegations and forcing or making public statements that there will be investigations ,is now a well established political trick... Just look at the US Congress.
Had there been an open and shut case, it is hard to see why preliminary reports would not have been published.
So very succinctly Mr 50 put up or shut up.
An investigation IS ongoing. Not, there will be an investigation. It’s happening, the result is awaited, as I have state further up in this thread.
Pay attention boy!
Investigation into the Labour Party | EHRC
We investigated allegations of antisemitism in the Labour Party.
www.equalityhumanrights.com
Can you actually get anything right? You are so wrong, so often about so many different things that I am beginning to think that you purposefully get things wrong. Either that or you are extremely old and senile. No one can be so ill informed and still manage to switch on a computer and operate a keyboard. It simply is not possible.
They don't have that grievance, it's fabricated in order to protect unfair advantage, therefore worthless. Like so many you really need to know a lot more about this subject than what you've been told to think.
Just consider this. Post WW2, thanks to the right wing Nazi's appalling treatment of the Jews, the Jewish population voted solidly left wing, including for Labour in this country. Some were so anti-right that they famously spied for Russia.
And that left wing Jewish bias continued right up to Corbyn's Labour's objection to the inclusion of the attempt to define criticism of Israeli action as anti-semitic in the UN definition.
Then suddenly they become anti Labour and invented this myth that Labour was anti-semitic, solely for that reason. Just as they behave in Israel and the West Bank, they are determined to get their own way by any means, and that includes the culture of victimhood, pretending they are still being terribly treated.
They aren't. In both the UK and the USA, and in many other countries, they are the most privileged of the population, even given special advantages.
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You really do need to read the stuff you write about.An investigation IS ongoing. Not, there will be an investigation. It’s happening, the result is awaited, as I have state further up in this thread.
Pay attention boy!
Investigation into the Labour Party | EHRC
We investigated allegations of antisemitism in the Labour Party.
Can you actually get anything right? You are so wrong, so often about so many different things that I am beginning to think that you purposefully get things wrong. Either that or you are extremely old and senile. No one can be so ill informed and still manage to switch on a computer and operate a keyboard. It simply is not possible.
The initial call for information was March 2019, The document was dated May last
The deadline was and I quote ..
"The deadline for submitting information or evidence was 31 July 2019. Any information or evidence submitted after this date will not automatically be considered as part of the investigation; however, we may consider it if we think it necessary and appropriate."
We are now at the tail end of .. April May June, July , August, September, October . NOVEMBER
So if the evidence was as obvious as being assumed,it would not take 8 months to collate.
Three apologies now ,if you don't mind.
And completely misunderstood the reason in the process, do try to keep up, you really cannot be that dense.
The BBC tried to avoid the fact the audience were ridiculing Johnson by laughing at him, so they edited out the laughter.
Surely even you can understand that, when everyone else who saw what happened did.
What excuse have you got for being so dim?
If they can't actually come to any conclusion months after the deadline for evidence expired then they either have no viable case or are incompetent when it comes to presenting one.
Which means
- Either they have no case and don't want to admit it
- They are really really inefficient at collating and presenting their case: should this take longer than Brexit?
Your choice, which are they?
Or are you insinuating there must be a case simply on the basis of so far unproven rumours?
An investigation ongoing. I’ve never said anything different. No apologies due. Check your facts.
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Your brain is decaying by the day.
The BBC were quite clear. As was I before they even released their statement. The edit was done for reasons of time. 12 seconds of laughter in a 1’ 40” piece is a massive amount of dead time.
It wasn’t done to make Johnson look good or bad it was merely a device to get the quote on in the time frame that was designated.
You can see conspiracies wherever you want and I’m sure you do but it doesn’t change the facts.
You seem the think when you say ‘the BBC’ it’s one person controlling and deciding everything. You are a moron.
You’re not allowed to question their motives for fear of being anti Semitic.
We have the chief rabbi telling every Jew in Britain not to vote for Labour because it’s leader is the biggest anti Semite since Hitler. It’s led the news for 24hours and headlined every single newspaper.
There are companies based and funded in Israel whose sole purpose is to smear anyone or anything that has the merest whisper of not being pro Israel.
Jeremy Corbyn isn’t anti Israel but he is pro Palestine. He just thinks that human beings shouldn’t be locked in giant internment camps, treat like dogs and not have their land stolen from them. Contentious stuff I know but it’s enough for the pro Israel machine to click into action. There was no suggestion he was an anti Semite before he became leader of the Labour Party. He is well known for being one of the most anti racist people on the planet.
But here we are.
A very common retort when someone attempts to do something outside their usual range is to suggest they don't give up their day job.
In this case, yes, he should not try this again. But I'd be delighted if he DID give up his day job (such as it is).
'I set trends dem man copy': Michael Gove mocks Stormzy Labour support
In this case, yes, he should not try this again. But I'd be delighted if he DID give up his day job (such as it is).
'I set trends dem man copy': Michael Gove mocks Stormzy Labour support
Those are the facts. If you want other facts you had better fabricate them yourself. I am rather particular that way..I tend to let facts speak for themselves.,
The apologies are due for the continued personal insults and untruths
So a Simple question. Has there been a preliminary report published between July 2019 and today?. Or has there been silence. ?
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I'm sure you must have been put up to this nonsense
What was salient was that the public laughed at Johnson, that crap about saving a few seconds has nothing to do with what happened
Saving Johnson's public embarassment was the reason for the edit.
The rest of the clip was what was the waste of time with the laughter deleted, as he just waffled.
And kindly leave off the insults, it's unbecoming behaviour
I have said that Labour is being investigated by the EHRC.
I have said that the only other political party to undergo such an investigation is the EDL.
I have said that the outcome of the investigation is not yet known.
Which bits of the above are untrue?
The problem you face is the this: You take simple straightforward statements and add lots of superfluous words, many of which you don’t fully understand. You then become confused, disorientation then develops and you mess up. This is a repetitive pattern of behaviour. Get it under control.
If you are going to play the straightforward statement game then I think it’s only fair the same rules apply to you.
They are not investigating the Labour Party at all. You are incorrect.
They have launched an investigation into allegations of antisemitism in The Labour Party.
Get it right and I won’t have to do this.
So 4 to 5 months no response?.... Silence Is that short enough?. That is what I initially said. So has there been even a preliminary report ... A YES or NO might suffice, and you can ignore my personal motivations.
I also implied that the threshold for initiating an investigation is low. All it needs is a few orchestrated complaints.
I’d go for dreadful inefficiency. The IOPC and CPS took 4 years to investigate, and to make the decision to bring a murder charge against a police officer who arrested a man who later died.
With these sorts of organisations, seemingly protracted investigation time is no indicator as to whether evidence exists. My leprechaun friend should take note of this.
I’ve sent a reply to OG which will do for you, so I’ll paste it here:
The IOPC and CPS took 4 years to investigate, and to make the decision to bring a murder charge against a police officer who arrested a man who later died. These types of bodies are appallingly inefficient, but likely not to be corrupt. Also, seemingly protracted investigation time is no indicator as to whether evidence exists, as illustrated by the above example.
So the Labour Party are being investigated. Thanks for clearing that one up.
If they were investigating the Conservative Party, your statement that The Labour Party are not being investigated might have made sense.