Brexit, for once some facts.

[50Hertz]

Johnson

Johnson winning is nothing to be thankful for.

I didn’t say it was.

In my opinion, a Johnson win is a smidgin less bad than a Corbyn win, but only by a whisker. Labour needs some new people, making Starmer or Benn the leader might be a start. They aren’t quite as bat-$hit crazy as the communists.

 

[flecc]

Remember the note from the outgoing Labour administration? There’s no money left.

That was a a joke!

There never is any money left for the incoming administration since the country runs on debt. And as the chart shown earlier revealed, Labour has always left less debt each time, since they consistently pay back more of the national debt than the Tories.
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[50Hertz]

That was a a joke!

Bugger, I missed that one. Ok, I’m convinced, let’s move Corbyn into number10.

 

[jonathan.agnew]

Those countries you list make stuff. They take raw materials, add value by applying a process to them and then sell the product. The difference between the cost of the raw materials and what they sell the product for is what pays for things.

In this country, I lend you a pound, you lend that same pound to 52 different people and somehow that makes money, except it doesn’t. So there is no money to pay for things. We can borrow, but just how are we going to pay that back? If we can’t afford these things now, so borrow instead, what is going to change to enable us to both service the mounting debt and continue to fund things at the proposed new level?

I’ve done ok financially. I puta big part of that down to never having to service debt. If you can’t afford it today, you can’t afford it tomorrow + interest.

I know the Tory party aren’t much better, but I think they are less reckless than Labour. Remember the note from the outgoing Labour administration? There’s no money left.

Where do you think our "service" based economy (make that financial "services" based in tax havens) come from? Which part of our culture imbued our economy with this void? Your dearly beloved tory party from thatcher to johnson.

 

[50Hertz]

Your dearly beloved tory party from thatcher to johnson.

I didn’t say that.

 

[jonathan.agnew]

I didn’t say that.

No, but looking back at what really harmed the uk fiscus over the past forty years, you cannot seriously think johnson less harmful than corbyn.

 

[50Hertz]

No, but looking back at what really harmed the uk fiscus over the past forty years, you cannot seriously think johnson less harmful than corbyn.

I think there is less than the width of a fag paper between them, but sadly I have to say that I think Johnson will do less economic damage. I may be wrong, but that’s how I feel.

We need properly costed, planned, affordable and sustainable social funding policies. No one is offering that.

 

[oldgroaner]

Less risky than Corbyn?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1181259274330214400

You regard Corbyn as a Marxist, imagine the screaming outrage if he had done these things, so ask yourself, what does that make Boris?
And the rest of the Tory party with all the Russian money backing them?
Do you really want Putin to have control of our government?

 

[Fingers]

You seem angry and frustrated today. Is everything satisfactory in the trouser department?

You disappoint me.

For someone with a brain I just find it sad that you can be happy with the status quo.

Not your own status quo but the country’s status quo....please don’t make a tired insipid joke about status quo.

What’s wrong with having a government that will spend to make things better? If we’ve learned anything since 2008 it’s money isn’t real.

Capitalism has failed. Let’s use this golden period to get us ready for the next stage of lies. Once we build the infrastructure it isn’t going anywhere.

You are a turd.

 

[Fingers]

Why do the Tories think a decrease of £100 a year on NI is a vote winner?what is a hundred pounds?

It’s not even a Sunday lunch for the people he is aiming at.

The tragedy of white working class voting for this fool kills me.

But I am prepared.

I will be in St Neots. I will switch off. I will not care as these idiots realise they have no doctors anymore. I will spend my days off teaching my son a decent forward defensive, how to tackle someone twice his size and how to defend a deep corner.

I almost hope these fools vote for decimation.

It’s the only way they will learn.

The problem is the turds. People that have no dog in the fight bar they hate Labour. These people know Labour is the better option. But it may cost them.

We have one here.

The Tories could say they will kill every third born but still our resident turd would vote Tory.

I can’t wait for this type of boomer to die so we can get on with making this country fit and proper for everyone.

 

[oldgroaner]

I read all 59 pages of the Tory manifesto, and the conclusion?
Nothing in it they haven't promised before really and failed to deliver
Including Brexit.
looks like a cut and paste job from the past , even the so called Environment action is really noting new.
Truth is it's toilet paper.

 

[Zlatan]

Why do the Tories think a decrease of £100 a year on NI is a vote winner?what is a hundred pounds?

It’s not even a Sunday lunch for the people he is aiming at.

The tragedy of white working class voting for this fool kills me.

But I am prepared.

I will be in St Neots. I will switch off. I will not care as these idiots realise they have no doctors anymore. I will spend my days off teaching my son a decent forward defensive, how to tackle someone twice his size and how to defend a deep corner.

I almost hope these fools vote for decimation.

It’s the only way they will learn.

The problem is the turds. People that have no dog in the fight bar they hate Labour. These people know Labour is the better option. But it may cost them.

We have one here.

The Tories could say they will kill every third born but still our resident turd would vote Tory.

I can’t wait for this type of boomer to die so we can get on with making this country fit and proper for everyone.

In many peoples defence, including I suspect 50's,the problem is not Labour. Its Corbyn. Yes, we all know he, s been attacked by right wing press, but take all that away and he still has lots of issues putting folk off him.
Labour would already be in power and would have a landslide victory this time if it werent for Corbyn. (and McDonel and Abot)
I suspect many like myself will now be voting Labour not because of Corbyn but inspite of Corbyn.
Their Manifesto is fine, their spending needed, their defence policies ok, their wealth redistribution policies fairer, and their priorities toward social care a must. All they need is a centrist leader and deputy. Get Milliband(the small clever one) back with Blair his deputy and they would get a 50 plus majority.

 

[50Hertz]

What’s wrong with having a government that will spend to make things better? If we’ve learned anything since 2008 it’s money isn’t real.

Absolutely nothing wrong. I‘m a big fan. However, it must be sustainable spending, Corbyn’s Labour approach is not. It will end in financial crisis and hardship. Look at their fifty eight thousand million pound WASPI plan, cobbled together in 48 hours on a whim, what a twat. (That would actually benefit us to the tune of about £9K, but it’s absurd, just like Corbyn’s Labour.)

 

[50Hertz]

Why do the Tories think a decrease of £100 a year on NI is a vote winner?what is a hundred pounds?

It’s not even a Sunday lunch for the people he is aiming at.

The tragedy of white working class voting for this fool kills me.

But I am prepared.

I will be in St Neots. I will switch off. I will not care as these idiots realise they have no doctors anymore. I will spend my days off teaching my son a decent forward defensive, how to tackle someone twice his size and how to defend a deep corner.

I almost hope these fools vote for decimation.

It’s the only way they will learn.

The problem is the turds. People that have no dog in the fight bar they hate Labour. These people know Labour is the better option. But it may cost them.

We have one here.

The Tories could say they will kill every third born but still our resident turd would vote Tory.

I can’t wait for this type of boomer to die so we can get on with making this country fit and proper for everyone.

You are wasting energy getting upset and angry. Stop it. The Conservative party will win and you are powerless to stop them.

Labour will implode after the election and the communist regime will be gone. A better, fairer, less racist and more financially responsible Labour will emerge and they will whoop the Tory’s asses at the next but one election.

 

[Zlatan]

Absolutely nothing wrong. I‘m a big fan. However, it must be sustainable spending, Corbyn’s Labour approach is not. It will end in financial crisis and hardship. Look at their fifty eight thousand million pound WASPI plan, cobbled together in 48 hours on a whim, what a twat. (That would actually benefit us to the tune of about £9K, but it’s absurd, just like Corbyn’s Labour.)

Problem is the alternative is absurd in so many ways. Tories have proven incapable of delivering promises. Look at their "new first homes ' objectives. Cant remember figures, somebody will find them I think they promised 200,000.Number built. Zero. That is having a laugh at the poorest in society' s expense. We ignore it.
Everywhere you look we have confusion and decay. Roads, rail, health, schools, welfare.We seem good at holidays for those that can afford them. You really think Tory way is working? It isnt 50.
But I agree we, d all be better off with a less radical Labour.

 

[oyster]

We seem good at holidays for those that can afford them.

We actually seem rather better at picking people up from holidays arranged by failed operators than keeping holiday companies going.

And it wasn't Whitehall that arranged the operation but the CAA and many others. Can't even imagine the mess if FCO had been in charge.

 

[Zlatan]

We actually seem rather better at picking people up from holidays arranged by failed operators than keeping holiday companies going.

And it wasn't Whitehall that arranged the operation but the CAA and many others. Can't even imagine the mess if FCO had been in charge.

Good point.

 

[oyster]

Well aware he is deeply unpopular, but he is right:

General election: Tony Blair says Tories and Labour both 'peddling fantasies' – live news

 

[Fingers]

fantastic news about Uber.

Khan has shown he is 20 times better than Johnson in this one move

 

[flecc]

Their Manifesto is fine, their spending needed, their defence policies ok, their wealth redistribution policies fairer, and their priorities toward social care a must. All they need is a centrist leader and deputy. Get Milliband(the small clever one) back with Blair his deputy and they would get a 50 plus majority.

But that wouldn't be the manifesto they carried out. It would be a repeat of Blair's pseudo Tory government again, which is not the socialism we need.

The reason the Labour manifesto is so acceptable is because Corbyn and McDonnell wrote it and they are true socialists, which David Miliband and Blair will never be. That's why David was not the Miliband the unions chose, going for socialist Ed instead.
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