Brexit, for once some facts.

Danidl

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I used to access the internet with my US Robotics 28.8 kilobit modem connected to pipex.
My kids had much less than 10 megabit when they grew up, that was enough to do their homework and play games.
.. are we starting on the living in cardboard shoeboxes meme again?.
 

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Just had a interesting beery evening discussing with a BT Openreach Broadband Delivery Manager and Labour campaign manager (both in my cricket club) depends if its free broadband 'railway tracks / infrastructure' for the masses and folk would would still need to pay for a 1st or 2nd class seat / access to buffet car / Intercity or old every station plodder . ...

Meanwhile Elon Musk is building an airline that could fly right over the top - a bit like if Foot had rolled out free betamax video many moons ago just as DVD was being introduced. Pace of technological change can catch folk & politicians out...
 
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Meanwhile Elon Musk is building an airline that could fly right over the top - a bit like if Foot had rolled out free betamax video many moons ago just as DVD was being introduced. Pace of technological change can catch folk & politicians out...
I've seen the same in network cabling. I can't remember how many miles of CAT5 cables we laid in our customers premises, but they are nearly all gone in the last 10-15 years.
 

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Your logic falls down on the point brexit succeeded when it made no sense either.
The likes of Facebook and Google will win, hands down. Too clever, too skilled, too powerful, too essential for us to have any taxation leverage. It will fall on PAYE, these schemes always do.
 
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Just had a interesting beery evening discussing with a BT Openreach Broadband Delivery Manager and Labour campaign manager (both in my cricket club) depends if its free broadband 'railway tracks / infrastructure' for the masses and folk would would still need to pay for a 1st or 2nd class seat / access to buffet car / Intercity or old every station plodder . ...

Meanwhile Elon Musk is building an airline that could fly right over the top - a bit like if Foot had rolled out free betamax video many moons ago just as DVD was being introduced. Pace of technological change can catch folk & politicians out...
Agreed, Corby is in great danger of making a massive investment in outdated infrastructure which stands a good chance of becoming redundant.
 

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I've seen the same in network cabling. I can't remember how many miles of CAT5 cables we laid in our customers premises, but they are nearly all gone in the last 10-15 years.
The same thing is happening in my house.
 

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Anyway, with all this talk of free broadband for all, we are overlooking the LibDems pledge to introduce gender neutral school uniforms. That’s the biggie, the real vote winner.
 

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Agreed, Corby is in great danger of making a massive investment in outdated infrastructure which stands a good chance of becoming redundant.
JC makes regularly poor choices. Free broadband is not the same as free education or clean water or clean air.
Investment needs a solid return, whether it's your own money or the national pot.
 
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Things are really hotting up now with the Tories and LibDems trying to “out tree” each other. Jonson makes an initial strike by pledging 30 million new trees, Swindon hits back with 60 million new trees. How do you come back against that? It could be game over.
 
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Things are really hotting up now with the Tories and LibDems trying to “out tree” each other. Jonson makes an initial strike by pledging 30 million new trees, Swindon hits back with 60 million new trees. How do you come back against that? It could be game over.
A tree each?
 
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Looking at all the party's spending plans it will have to be a money tree.
They don't need money trees. It's easier to fleece PAYE monkey's & confiscate worker's pension assets (share theft from utility companies).
 

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A solid 10 meg is enough for HD video content. If it’s free, that’s not a bad gift.
Only on paper as the assumed rate. Contention is the problem when lots people go online at once in a low megabit zone. I've seen video dropout on 60 plus megabit service.

No-one gets an individual service from an ISP, we are all in shared zones, the number sharing in each zone according to the price of the service.
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JC makes regularly poor choices. Free broadband is not the same as free education or clean water or clean air.
Investment needs a solid return, whether it's your own money or the national pot.
And there we have the nub of it, most attacking simply because Corbyn suggested it. None of you have any idea of what government under Corbyn will be like, you've all just soaked up the anti-Corbyn propaganda, believing it all instead of really thinking.

If you really did think about this issue you'd have realised that the cost of the scheme doesn't matter. Try to work it out if you can, if not ask.
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whichever way you look at it, it's not his money.
Someone has to pay for it. It's very well to pretend that the money will come from internet companies or the top 5% earners, it's another thing to make that happen.
If the British government increases taxes above the EU's, they will move their HQs or divert their income there, the divestment will crash the Pound in the same way that pre brexit damage to investors confidence did to the Pound.
Nationalisations, big infrastructure investments are not a panacea to get out of recession free. There will come a moment in time where large borrowings will push the the balance of payment to intolerable level..
Then the PAYE taxpayers will become victims of the same sort of propaganda that brought us brexit.
 
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I've seen the same in network cabling. I can't remember how many miles of CAT5 cables we laid in our customers premises, but they are nearly all gone in the last 10-15 years.
BT's aim is for seemless connectivity inside or out & about. Puter's are more and more roaming around as mobile devices have proliferated. So a mix of cable, wi-fi and 5G networking is necessary.

And if the aim is for say a future of self-driving /navigating vehicles then the network system will need extending even further and robustly.
 
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I believe in wireless technology.
 

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