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Most of them would never vote Tory (Mining community) but they would vote for the Brexit party. If Boris does a deal, the Brexit party could pick most of the Tory votes and a lot of the Labour ones.
I think that Farage's money backers may abandon him after yesterday's vote.
Without money, you can't fight elections.
 

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I think you might be right....But if the Brexit party chooses not to stand in Tory strongholds and vice versa..The coalition will be Boris and Farage.
You grossly overrate farages company. They will lose far more often than win and simply damage the conservative vote in the process proving to be as big an asset as Cummings
 
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You grossly overrate farages company. They will lose far more often than win and simply damage the conservative vote in the process proving to be as big an asset as Cummings
How can they damage the Tory vote if they don't put candidates in Tory winnable seats?
 

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How can they damage the Tory vote if they don't put candidates in Tory winnable seats?
if there is no election pact between the conservatives and the BXP, Farage will go on TV and twitter everyday to tell brexiter not to trust Bojo.
Some may prefer not to vote rather than voting for Bojo where they would have voted BXP.
 
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I hope you are right but I fear you are not. My local MP is Yvette cooper and she is hated by most of the 69% of her constituents that voted leave, Most of them would never vote Tory (Mining community) but they would vote for the Brexit party. If Boris does a deal, the Brexit party could pick most of the Tory votes and a lot of the Labour ones.
That's an assumption. I live in a very tory seat down south. Many of the tories I know are so disgusted by boris's antics they are considering voting lib dem because they are not quite depraved enough to sign up to the destructive hard brexit party its become
 
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if there is no election pact between the conservatives and the BXP, Farage will go on TV and twitter everyday to tell brexiter not to trust Bojo.
Some may prefer not to vote rather than voting for Bojo where they would have voted BXP.
Brilliant deduction Holmes...(Or no **** Sherlock) but I said if they did a deal.
 

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Brilliant deduction Holmes...(Or no **** Sherlock) but I said if they did a deal.
even if they agree a non-aggression deal, they can't agree between themselves.
Bojo is for a deal without the backstop, Farage opposes any deal with the EU.
They will criticise one another publicly and hard brexiters are not the kind of voters to accept compromises.
Bojo has turned the tories into another BXP and this country is not big enough for both Bojo and Farage.
 
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even if they agree a non-aggression deal, they can't agree between themselves.
Bojo is for a deal without the backstop, Farage opposes any deal with the EU.
They will criticise one another publicly and hard brexiters are not the kind of voters to accept compromises.
Bojo has turned the tories into another BXP and this country is not big enough for both Bojo and Farage.
Farage has already said a deal with Boris would have to mean a hard Brexit.
 

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Farage has already said a deal with Boris would have to mean a hard Brexit.
Bojo has boxed himself into a corner. WTO brexit fast becomes toxic.
The Pound regained nearly 3% since Monday.
 

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JRM confirms vote on early GE is scheduled for Monday evening.
If Bojo loses, the GE will be postponed to November at the earliest.
 
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oldgroaner

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How can they damage the Tory vote if they don't put candidates in Tory winnable seats?
In which case they will just be a waste of votes as they are unlikely to win, let's face it they are no threat, look at their last effort
Wherever they surface the Lib Dems will beat them
 
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Farage has already said a deal with Boris would have to mean a hard Brexit.
And Boris can't give him one, what fun!
And by the time we have a GE Farage will be irrelevant as it will be too late anyway that boat has sunk.
 

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