remain or soft brexit are the two most viable options:
Brexit, for once some facts.
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Ken Clarke on Bojo's rambling speech this afternoon in West Yorkshire:
"I wish the Police were tough on crap speeches and tough on the causes of crap speeches "
"I wish the Police were tough on crap speeches and tough on the causes of crap speeches "
Did I miss mention of this:
Parliament is going to debate the petition you signed – “Do not prorogue Parliament”.
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/269157
The debate is scheduled for 9 September 2019.
Parliament is going to debate the petition you signed – “Do not prorogue Parliament”.
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/269157
The debate is scheduled for 9 September 2019.
According to the BBC's Brussels reporter Adam Fleming, the UK wants the backstop part of the Brexit deal "radically reduced" to include only the articles dealing with citizens rights, the single electricity market and the Common Travel Area.
The UK also wants references to the future relationship to be removed from the backstop, which the EU thinks may nullify the Joint Instrument agreed in Strasbourg by Theresa May and Jean-Claude Juncker earlier this year.
The UK made clear it wants a "best in class" Free Trade Agreement along the lines of the EU/Canada but minus any level playing field commitments and without the dispute resolution mechanism included in the Withdrawal Agreement. Plus a cherry on top! ;-)
There would be a general commitment to find operable solutions to the Irish border later, with the details to be agreed by the EU and UK's Joint Committee after Brexit.
Our correspondent adds that the words being used on the EU side are "exasperating" and "disastrous".
it's at least a concrete proposal.
We may get somewhere.
And have you any evidence to the contrary when the EU say nothing is happening worthy of note?
No you haven't have you? you are just wishing!
WE will have simply worked to ensure no deal is inevitable by the wording of our demands
A letter to Santa more like.
Clearly intended to be too high a price to ensure a desired No Deal
Typical Boris bluster
Whereas many politicians close to the EU position have been very clear that nothing which could advance a Deal has been lodged. The amount of obstruction and obscuration and misleading information coming from senior Westminster figures and commentators is overwhelming. The latest information needing clarification is attributed to Mr Gove,which was to the effect that the UK would not be charging tariffs on imports from Ireland. The Irish understanding , as stated by Simon Covney is that the tariff would be waived in South North transactions on the Island of Ireland, but that tariffs would be required forWest East transactions. He finished this by saying he would be meeting Mr Gove tomorrow and would be interested to see had the British position changed.
I actually said this
Is begging for scraps classed as negotiating these days?
If you look at what was supposedly discussed he did exactly that in the knowledge it was not viable.
He had been sent there to delay matters not get a deal.
In the time remaining before 31 Oct that is impossible
Actually your post has confirmed Boris lied again! he must have known May had tried this tactic and it failed, mustn't he?
So why pretend he can make it work?
Now shoot the other foot
From the Telegraph
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Labour plot to trap Boris Johnson by delaying general election until November after Brexit delay
The Labour leader believes he can trap Boris Johnson by refusing to agree to his preferred Oct 15 election date, forcing the Prime Minister to seek a Brexit extension before a poll is held.
He has agreed a pact with the SNP that will see both parties opposing an election before Oct 20 at the earliest. Three of Mr Corbyn's most senior frontbenchers insist it should be pushed back beyond the current Oct 31 exit date.
plot? how is it a plot ? they have every right to do this as a tactic, and if Boris doesn't like it he has every right to complain
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Labour plot to trap Boris Johnson by delaying general election until November after Brexit delay
The Labour leader believes he can trap Boris Johnson by refusing to agree to his preferred Oct 15 election date, forcing the Prime Minister to seek a Brexit extension before a poll is held.
He has agreed a pact with the SNP that will see both parties opposing an election before Oct 20 at the earliest. Three of Mr Corbyn's most senior frontbenchers insist it should be pushed back beyond the current Oct 31 exit date.
plot? how is it a plot ? they have every right to do this as a tactic, and if Boris doesn't like it he has every right to complain
Comedy in the Express
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No wonder Corbyn’s running scared! Boris and Farage could crush Labour in election - poll
BORIS JOHNSON has overwhelmingly been backed by Express.co.uk readers should a general election be called in a last-ditch attempt to get Brexit over the line.
Overwhelmingly backed by Express readers? a Chimpanzee in Tory colours would achieve that
One has come to think of it!
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No wonder Corbyn’s running scared! Boris and Farage could crush Labour in election - poll
BORIS JOHNSON has overwhelmingly been backed by Express.co.uk readers should a general election be called in a last-ditch attempt to get Brexit over the line.
Overwhelmingly backed by Express readers? a Chimpanzee in Tory colours would achieve that
One has come to think of it!
As I predicted here comes May's deal once more
Watch Boris claim he has renegotiated and improved it.
Watch Boris claim he has renegotiated and improved it.
From the Daily Mail
'I'd rather be dead in a ditch than delay Brexit': Boris Johnson fuels speculation he will QUIT if he loses fresh bid to force snap election as it emerges he will see the Queen at Balmoral today
The truth is Boris it isn't cowardice to ensure Boris must be left in place to clear u the mess he made, why should any other party take the blame?
And I don't want to see him "Dead in a ditch" oh Dear me no, I want to see him on trial in the dock for offences connected with the vote leave campaign and the other plotters with him.
An his latest and biggest lie is exposed , May had it appeared already tried the "No Deal" threat and it failed.
Time Boris Quit and a Caretaker Government installed
'I'd rather be dead in a ditch than delay Brexit': Boris Johnson fuels speculation he will QUIT if he loses fresh bid to force snap election as it emerges he will see the Queen at Balmoral today
- Boris Johnson's hopes of triggering snap election for October 15 were dashed in the Commons on Wednesday
- The PM failed to get two-thirds of the House to agree to an early poll despite making desperate entreaties
- Jeremy Corbyn instructed his Labour MPs to abstain and block a snap election in the crunch division
- Mr Johnson laid the blame squarely on Mr Corbyn and will brand him a 'coward' in a crucial speech later today
The truth is Boris it isn't cowardice to ensure Boris must be left in place to clear u the mess he made, why should any other party take the blame?
And I don't want to see him "Dead in a ditch" oh Dear me no, I want to see him on trial in the dock for offences connected with the vote leave campaign and the other plotters with him.
An his latest and biggest lie is exposed , May had it appeared already tried the "No Deal" threat and it failed.
Time Boris Quit and a Caretaker Government installed
There are two reasons for Brexit
These American fifth columnist Leave Campaign traitors to the United Kingdom must be stopped or they will make us a vassal state of America, with all the injustice and poverty that squalid right wing regime represent in the cause of profit regardless of human cost.
- Protection of offshore tax havens
- Politicians in the pay of American Corporate interests
These American fifth columnist Leave Campaign traitors to the United Kingdom must be stopped or they will make us a vassal state of America, with all the injustice and poverty that squalid right wing regime represent in the cause of profit regardless of human cost.