Brexit, for once some facts.

[oldgroaner]

Isn't it strange how the Brexit Voters thought they were going to send a message to the Westminster Government that they, the public, were fed up of being ignored and abused and the referendum had given them power and they were taking control of events?
And three years later we have come to this?

The lobbyists of the Elite are now the Government

Time for another referendum and an end to this disaster, or for maximum educational effect, a no deal Brexit
First option for preference, but either will do.

 

[Fingers]

It’s been very salty in here for the last few days. Much saltier than usual.

Has anything happened to upset anyone more than usual in the last few days?

 

[daveboy]

There could be an encyclopaedia of reasons to holiday within the UK. But just what does taking back control mean if we are then confined to our own shores? It is a reduction in choice and freedom. (Leaving aside issues such as visas and being non-EU for passport control, etc.)

Spain and Portugal have already said they would not have visas for UK tourists (even with no deal) Portugal even said they would open extra lanes up at passport control for people from the UK to avoid Queues. Tourism is at least one case where we can say they need us more than we need them.

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[Zlatan]

EU news: Yanis Varoufakis explains why Germany will cause break-up of the euro | World | News | Express.co.uk

YANIS VAROUFAKIS shockingly claimed the break up of the eurozone will not be because of crisis-hit Greece or Italy but because of Germany, as Berlin will be the first country to drop out the bloc and print Deutsche Marks.

www.express.co.uk

???

 

[jonathan.agnew]

It’s been very salty in here for the last few days. Much saltier than usual.

Has anything happened to upset anyone more than usual in the last few days?

finally realizing you have in effect elected boris and the erg when you vote leave must be upsetting. And that it has taken this long for the penny to drop. Dont worry too much about it. Were here to help you.

 

[Zlatan]

Isn't it strange how the Brexit Voters thought they were going to send a message to the Westminster Government that they, the public, were fed up of being ignored and abused and the referendum had given them power and they were taking control of events?
And three years later we have come to this?

The lobbyists of the Elite are now the Government

Time for another referendum and an end to this disaster, or for maximum educational effect, a no deal Brexit
First option for preference, but either will do.

And what will we do if ref2 says leave... again... We could scream and shout, insult leavers, exagerate, moan like feck, protest, and..... demand ref3.

 

[Fingers]

finally realizing you have in effect elected boris and the erg when you vote leave must be upsetting. And that it has taken this long for the penny to drop. Dont worry too much about it. Were here to help you.

You have a funny way of showing it. You and Gerald have been beastly to me lately.

 

[daveboy]

And what will we do if ref2 says leave... again... We could scream and shout, insult leavers, exagerate, moan like feck, protest, and..... demand ref3.

It's been mentioned before, A Neverendum.

 

[flecc]

It’s been very salty in here for the last few days. Much saltier than usual.

Has anything happened to upset anyone more than usual in the last few days?

BJ, aka Bluffing Joker becoming PM perhaps?
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[jonathan.agnew]

You have a funny way of showing it. You and Gerald have been beastly to me lately.

Sometimes, lad, one has to be cruel to be kind. We couldnt leave you in your state of obnoxious denial forever.

 

[Zlatan]

Finally realized you have in effect elected Boris and the ERG when you voted leave must be upsetting. And that it has taken this long for the penny to drop. Don't worry too much about it. We're here to help you.

Tried to correct this for you. You were obviously in a rush when you posted it.
Try to remember proper nouns need capitals.(Boris is a name) And, if you miss letters out to join words use an apostrophe. Obviously starts of sentences need a capital letter. Come on JA, we have standards to uphold. OG doesnt like misuse of commas and apostrophes but ignores it from remainers but he notices and never forgets.
I could not correct the bull sh! t meaning tho. Its endemic for you, your opinions are much worse than your grammar and cant be helped.
Remainers gave us Boris helped by Corbyn.
If I were you I, d go back and correct your post. At moment it demonstrates your poor command of English.
Looking up and using the occasional big word only makes things worse. Just get the simple things right. I, d start with trying to use capitals correctly. OG has just got literature on that very subject, perhaps he will pass it in to you in a few months time after he has read it.

 

[flecc]

Tourism is at least one case where we can say they need us more than we need them.

They were always going to be the winner with that one, it's the weather of course.

Their other winner of being cheaper could well fail though, if the pound takes a nosedive.
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[daveboy]

Correction of grammar and spelling will only end up in you being hoisted by your own petard.

 

[Woosh]

And what will we do if ref2 says leave... again..

I don't think ref2 is going to fix anything. The UK works well because we have indirect representation.
Imagine our government needs to raise taxes to pay for the care of dementia sufferers, it consults all voters with a referendum. What you think the result will be?
The same happens with brexit. It's a choice between siding with the old European foes against China and USA or siding with the USA against the EU27.
whether they are rich or poor, most voters do not know nor care about the difference between GDP growth of 0.2% and 2% or if our foreign policy is going to be go easy or hard on Iran/North Korea/North Africa/East Africa/China.

 

[gray198]

As if the vapid tripe you and leave voters come up with contributes, or opens up critical debate? Does "I like reese mogg's sense of humour" ring a bell?

do you not like people to be well mannered with a sense of humor and to treat people with respect . Oh no I forgor .You are a British hating remoaner who has had his sense of humor as well as his sense of democratic thought removed. Your idea of good humor is probably Frankie Boyle or any of those other lefty comedians (and I use that term loosely) who love to slag off other people. What I post may seem like vapid tripe to a narrow minded bigot like you, but at least I am posting something, which you are free to respond to. Stop trying to be more intelligent than you actually are and try occasionally to appreciate that people have a different viewpoint

 

[jonathan.agnew]

I don't think ref2 is going to fix anything. The UK works well because we have indirect representation.
Imagine our government needs to raise taxes to pay for the care of dementia sufferers, it consults all voters with a referendum. What you think the result will be?
The same happens with brexit. It's a choice between siding with the old European foes against China and USA or siding with the USA against the EU27.
whether they are rich or poor, most voters do not know nor care about the difference between GDP growth of 0.2% and 2% or if our foreign policy is going to be go easy or hard on Iran/North Korea/North Africa/East Africa/China.

An election may, then perhaps more sensible indirect representation could mean each of those important decisions are not subjected to a mindless misinformed populist vote. I doubt very much whether the majority of the electorate is really thick enough to opt for a suicide pact with boris.

 

[gray198]

Spain and Portugal have already said they would not have visas for UK tourists (even with no deal) Portugal even said they would open extra lanes up at passport control for people from the UK to avoid Queues. Tourism is at least one case where we can say they need us more than we need them.

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I think both countries rely heavily on British tourism

 

[flecc]

EU news: Yanis Varoufakis explains why Germany will cause break-up of the euro | World | News | Express.co.uk

YANIS VAROUFAKIS shockingly claimed the break up of the eurozone will not be because of crisis-hit Greece or Italy but because of Germany, as Berlin will be the first country to drop out the bloc and print Deutsche Marks.

www.express.co.uk

???

My answer on this link
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[jonathan.agnew]

do you not like people to be well mannered with a sense of humor and to treat people with respect . Oh no I forgor .You are a British hating remoaner who has had his sense of humor as well as his sense of democratic thought removed. Your idea of good humor is probably Frankie Boyle or any of those other lefty comedians (and I use that term loosely) who love to slag off other people. What I post may seem like vapid tripe to a narrow minded bigot like you, but at least I am posting something, which you are free to respond to. Stop trying to be more intelligent than you actually are and try occasionally to appreciate that people have a different viewpoint

I'm interested in facts and substance. This personal attack on me, like your previous adoration for reese mogg's manipulative mannerisms provide neither.

 

[gray198]

finally realizing you have in effect elected boris and the erg when you vote leave must be upsetting. And that it has taken this long for the penny to drop. Dont worry too much about it. Were here to help you.

Not at all he should have stood his ground and got in instead of TM. We would be out now