Brexit, for once some facts.

oldgroaner

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How Farage builds the BXP:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/may/21/brexit-party-nigel-farage-italy-digital-populists-five-star-movement

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“If I was starting Ukip today,” Farage told the political scientists Matthew Goodwin and Caitlin Milazzo around that time, “would I spend 20 years speaking to people in village halls or would I base it on the Grillo model? I know exactly what I would do.” Farage and his colleagues in the Brexitmovement had been converted.
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Like Farage, Bilney believed there was an opening for a British party to do the same. “Issue: there is not currently any party in the UK with any true internet presence,” her report begins. To emulate Five Star, she placed online engagement at the heart of Leave.EU’s campaign. Instead of a target audience passively absorbing a message from party leaders, followers were made to feel they were part of a conversation and a movement – a strategy often used by brands, too. As Bilney put it, the goal was to “upgrade” a follower to a paying “supporter” through staying in touch regularly, hitting them with varied, dynamic content and keeping them engaged.

“We’ve taken learnings from business, because if you look at insurance, you want people to renew their policies,” Bilney said. “And I would apply that same principle with an organisation or a party … you wouldn’t want the members to drop off. But if you don’t talk to your members, and you don’t engage your members, they drop off.”

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As Banks watched Leave.EU grow, he believed it could be more than a one-off campaign. He wanted to turn it into a long-term movement, like Five Star. A few months before the referendum, he emailed Farage to suggest Farage “subtly delink” from Ukip “and we will start building Leave.EU”. He even offered to put up £10m “to develop a popular political movement along the lines of Beppe Grillo’s incredibly successful Five Star Movement in Italy”, he writes in his book The Bad Boys of Brexit. Banks also had a new website built for Leave.EU that would replicate some of the features of Five Star’s Rousseau.

But Farage decided to bide his time. Given that the new prime minister, Theresa May, had promised to deliver Brexit, it seemed sensible to wait. Any new movement could be born out of the ashes of a failed deal, Alexandra Phillips, the Brexit party candidate, said – and Farage could portray himself as coming to the rescue to save Brexit.

“Nigel would say that the market has to be right for us,” Banks told me. “It’s the equivalent of trying to start a fire in a wet forest. But now the forest is tinder dry.”
And it's all a sham Farage will milk these mugs of their money and give them exactly nothing in return.
The eternal con man is incapable of holding down any job and his history should have warned people what to expect
 
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They need to nip this in the bud...…6 months in prison should do it.
For assault with no intent to cause bodily harm?
Just because you worship this charlatan and his utterly pointless pursuit of profit by mugging the gullible, there is no reason to abuse the law, and why should the public have to pay for 6 months in prison for the guy who threw the milk shake?

A fine would be appropriate and a warning to keep the peace.
Farage got some free publicity and it inflamed some people he has conned into supporting his cause in the mistaken belief he is working in their interests to make extreme remarks, so he will be well pleased with what happened.
Probably wished he had arranged it himself.

What better for keeping idiots on side than presenting yourself as a victim, especially when the danger from a thrown milkshake is so terrifying!
 
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For assault with no intent to cause bodily harm?
Just because you worship this charlatan and his utterly pointless pursuit of profit by mugging the gullible, there is no reason to abuse the law, and why should the public have to pay for 6 months in prison for the guy who threw the milk shake?

A fine would be appropriate and a warning to keep the peace.
Farage got some free publicity and it inflamed some people he has conned into supporting his cause in the mistaken belief he is working in their interests to make extreme remarks, so he will be well pleased with what happened.
Probably wished he had arranged it himself.

What better for keeping idiots on side than presenting yourself as a victim, especially when the danger from a thrown milkshake is so terrifying!
The person who smashed an egg on Jeremy's head got jailed for 28 days.
So this should be the minimum.
 

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Rumour has it the guy throwing milk shake is an ex team rider for Sky.. He, ll be on a pedelec now I bet.
Come on, it was a milk shake. It happens. It comes with the territory.
 

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Rumour has it the guy throwing milk shake is an ex team rider for Sky.. He, ll be on a pedelec now I bet.
Come on, it was a milk shake. It happens. It comes with the territory.
The person who smashed an egg on Jeremy's head got jailed for 28 days.
So this should be the minimum.
 

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The person who smashed an egg on Jeremy's head got jailed for 28 days.
So this should be the minimum.
I reckon the thrower would plead damage to property.
Fine and compensation, no jail.
 
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No, sentences are set by the circumstances of each case. Jeremy being elderly (70 now) would be an important factor.
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The important factor is it needs to be stopped. Before you accuse me of hero worship again, I would think the same if anybody was attacked in this way. There has to be a deterrent.
 
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The important factor is it needs to be stopped. Before you accuse me of hero worship again, I would think the same if anybody was attacked in this way. There has to be a deterrent.
I agree, but in a world where even someone who physically assaults a police officer often doesn't get anything like six months imprisonment, a severe sentence is unlikely for someone throwing a milk shake at a fit and healthy person.

If the offender has no criminal record, a fine is likely. For some while now the courts have been told to avoid short prison sentences up to 28 days, since they clog up the system for no good purpose. Remember only half each sentence is served.
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The important factor is it needs to be stopped. Before you accuse me of hero worship again, I would think the same if anybody was attacked in this way. There has to be a deterrent.
Teachers, nurses, police, social worker, prison warders are attacked like that daily. It wouldnt even consitute a reportable incident for some.
British public have been throwing food at politicians for centuries, yes its wrong and I, m not condoning it but for goodness sake lets keep it in perspective. Nobody hurt, no blood, no bruises, no scratches. Dont see folk up in arms like this when footballers get bananas thrown at them, and thats a 1000 times worse.
Oh, our poor politicians have hadhro have had milk thrown at them. How do they cope.? He got a mark on his suit Banks bought fir him.
 

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I've been watching a program called "code zero" It's when police press their emergency button on the radio, Usually because they are being assaulted, The average punishment seems to be around £150-£200 fine....Crazy.
 

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I've been watching a program called "code zero" It's when police press their emergency button on the radio, Usually because they are being assaulted,
I don't like these programs. They always follow the same theme, something along the lines of, "Officer Bob was handing out free chocolate at the local orphanage when the vicious assailant struck." Then the producer gets a muscle bound, crew cut, lantern jawed actor to play the part of officer Bob in the reconstruction.

The reality is that officer Bob is a 120 Kg Brexit voting monster with a shaved head and a very fat neck. He was never at the orphanage handing out chocolate either. He was cruising the red light area, working prostitutes for free hand-jobs. And if he wasn't doing that, officer Bob was parked on waste ground, getting off his head on deal bags he'd previously confiscated from school kids.

More likely he was assaulted by the prostitute's pimp, or the local drug dealer than the vicious assailant.
 
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I don't like these programs. They always follow the same theme, something along the lines of, "Officer Bob was handing out free chocolate at the local orphanage when the vicious assailant struck." Then they get a muscle bound, crew cut, lantern jawed actor to play the part of officer Bob in the reconstruction.

The reality is that officer Bob is a 120 Kg Brexit voting monster with a shaved head and a very fat neck. He was never at the orphanage handing out chocolate either. He was cruising the red light area, working prostitutes for free hand-jobs. And if he wasn't doing that, officer Bob was parked up on waste, off his head on deal bags he'd confiscated from school kids.

More likely he was assaulted by the prostitute's pimp, or the local drug dealer than the vicious assailant.
Not this time...All footage was from body cams and CCTV .It included the one where the women Pc was dropped kicked into the road. (that made the news)
 
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I don't like these programs. They always follow the same theme, something along the lines of, "Officer Bob was handing out free chocolate at the local orphanage when the vicious assailant struck." Then they get a muscle bound, crew cut, lantern jawed actor to play the part of officer Bob in the reconstruction.

The reality is that officer Bob is a 120 Kg Brexit voting monster with a shaved head and a very fat neck. He was never at the orphanage handing out chocolate either. He was cruising the red light area, working prostitutes for free hand-jobs. And if he wasn't doing that, officer Bob was parked up on waste, off his head on deal bags he'd confiscated from school kids.

More likely he was assaulted by the prostitute's pimp, or the local drug dealer than the vicious assailant.
Is that really the level of post we have descended to. Its horrible 50.
 

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