Brexit, for once some facts.

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Yes, like his brother who he lent £20k to to buy a house. That got him 18 months for conspiracy to defraud because his brother bigged up his salary on the mortgage application form. Do you know anybody else that got jailed for that. I bet many forum members have done that too. Then they put him in the high security jail, when anybody else would have been sent to an open prison. They deliberately put him on the same wing as the Islamist terrorists so that he would get beaten up by them.
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You know that he's promised to donate his entire MEP salary to charity? That doesn't sound like he's in it for the money. How much do you think his bodyguards cost? What about that 50 ft screen and his tour bus? How much does it cost to print 3.5 million glossy leaflets? I don't think that £30K would go far.

So far, I've given him more than £500 of my own money for his campaign. How much do you believe in your politicians that you would do the same? I do it because I know that he's an honest guy and that he will spend the money wisely. Even if he didn't, I'd still be happy to give him the money for a good night out. The guy deserves a break for everything that's happened to him and the way he's been treated.
More fool you! this has to be the poorest spoof post yet.
 
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Police investigating Ukip candidate for Jess Phillips rape comments
European election candidate Carl Benjamin has added to original comments on YouTube
One of his political opponents, who feels threatened by his popularity and better ideas, clipped one of his comments out of context and sent it to the police asking them to investigate. They looked at it, said wtf. Now the guy who sent it to them is under investigation for wasting police time.
 
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May I remind everyone of the reason for this thread which is to discuss Brexit and not to further encourage spamming on behalf of right wing loony politicians.
Evidently when right wing loonies get excluded on social media their hangers on haunt forums in this manner promoting their cause.
 
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it's your money, I am sure you have good reasons for giving TR some of it although I can't see that he deserves it.
There are plenty of worthy causes like water aid that I support.
I also give money to Cats Protection, kids in Bali, musicians on Youtube, anti-scammers on Youtube (Jim Browning. Check out his vids) and anyone that can justify why they need it.
 

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One of his political opponents, who feels threatened by his popularity and better ideas, clipped one of his comments out of context and sent it to the police asking them to investigate. They looked at it, said wtf. Now the guy who sent it to them is now under investigation for wasting police time.
Spamming again please stop
 
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Yes, like his brother who he lent £20k to to buy a house. That got him 18 months for conspiracy to defraud because his brother bigged up his salary on the mortgage application form. Do you know anybody else that got jailed for that.
That's a gross oversimplification, he was involved in more than one fraud and admitted guilt:

"Robinson admitted two counts of conspiring with others to obtain a mortgage by misrepresentation from the Abbey and Halifax building societies.

Judge Andrew Bright QC described him as the "instigator, if not the architect" of some of the frauds.

Passing sentence, the judge told him: "This was an operation which was fraudulent from the outset and involved a significant amount of forward planning."

He described Robinson as a "fixer" who had introduced others to fraudulent mortgage broker Deborah Rothschild.

"I am satisfied you took part in a thoroughly dishonest course of conduct," he told him."
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All credit to you vf for pointing out those examples of organised sexual crime around the country, I do wonder why the authorities do nothing to stop it. But the thing is what would Tommy Robinson do to curtail it ? I'm not convinced sending in the storm troopers and rounding everyone up who happens to be called Ali is the right way to go about it. Rivers Of Blood...so far we've avoided it despite the Enoch prediction of some 50 yrs ago, is TR becoming a MEP going to stop that from ever happening.
He doesn't really say what to do about it. All he wants is for people to acknowledge the problems and discuss them openly. Anybody that mentions these things gets labelled fascist, far right, racist and white supremacist as if it's hysterical lies. Everything you've heard and know about TR is because of this. I think you're getting TR mixed up with the Nation Front and BNP because one day they turned up uninvited to one of his parades. TR is not anti Muslim. he has many Muslim friends as he grew up in a Muslim area. What he wants is a debate on how the Quran should be interpreted and whether it's acceptable to have Shariah law in this country.
 

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That's a gross oversimplification, he was involved in more than one fraud and admitted guilt:

"Robinson admitted two counts of conspiring with others to obtain a mortgage by misrepresentation from the Abbey and Halifax building societies.

Judge Andrew Bright QC described him as the "instigator, if not the architect" of some of the frauds.

Passing sentence, the judge told him: "This was an operation which was fraudulent from the outset and involved a significant amount of forward planning."

He described Robinson as a "fixer" who had introduced others to fraudulent mortgage broker Deborah Rothschild.

"I am satisfied you took part in a thoroughly dishonest course of conduct," he told him."
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This guy is going to go on forever if we encourage him, it's a way of getting publicity after this
Tommy Robinson permanently banned by Facebook and Instagram
There is a reason for that
I shall simply post this under every post he makes
 

oldgroaner

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He doesn't really say what to do about it. All he wants is for people to acknowledge the problems and discuss them openly. Anybody that mentions these things gets labelled fascist, far right, racist and white supremacist as if it's hysterical lies. Everything you've heard and know about TR is because of this. I think you're getting TR mixed up with the Nation Front and BNP because one day they turned up uninvited to one of his parades. TR is not anti Muslim. he has many Muslim friends as he grew up in a Muslim area. What he wants is a debate on how the Quran should be interpreted and whether it's acceptable to have Shariah law in this country.
Tommy Robinson permanently banned by Facebook and Instagram
There is a reason for that
 

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and Youtube and Twitter, just like anybody else who says anything against the far right left-wingers, and, of course, anybody that's pro trump. Those accounts were deleted the day after he posted his Panodrama video. hello!

Did you know that if you get a photo of Bin Laden or Hitler and post a picture of yourself next to it, nothing happens, but if you post a picture of yourself with Tommy Robinson without even mentioning who it is, you'll get your account cancelled? Tommy Robinson is a standing MEP.

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Tommy Robinson for MEP. At last your chance to vote an honest one in. Do your research. Find out the truth. If you live in the NE, go and talk to him when he comes to your town, even if you hate him. Go and discuss with him why you think you don't like him. Don't believe the mainstream media. Just look at that Panodrama video above to see what's really going on. Everything you read and see about Brexit in the media is fake. The more you look, the more you'll find. Don't take my word for it.

Despite TR being hidden from every social media platform and slated in every mainstream media, the odds on TR winning his seat are presently 11/5, if you fancy a bet. The odds are shortening every day. I think the bookies know something.

Tommy Robinson getting elected (and even standing) as an MEP will do more to deliver Brexit than any other single event or action.
 
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and Youtube and Twitter, just like anybody else who says anything against the far right left-wingers, and, of course, anybody that's pro trump. Those accounts were deleted the day after he posted his Panodrama video. hello!

Did you know that if you get a photo of Bin Laden or Hitler and post a picture of yourself next to it, nothing happens, but if you post a picture of yourself with Tommy Robinson without even mentioning who it is, you'll get your account cancelled? Tommy Robinson is a standing MEP.

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Here...hang on now, the guy with TR is giving the same sign as the aliens in The invaders....I don't like the look of that. Tommy Robinson's seen them now he has to convince a disbelieving world....
 

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and Youtube and Twitter, just like anybody else who says anything against the far right left-wingers, and, of course, anybody that's pro trump. Those accounts were deleted the day after he posted his Panodrama video. hello!

Did you know that if you get a photo of Bin Laden or Hitler and post a picture of yourself next to it, nothing happens, but if you post a picture of yourself with Tommy Robinson without even mentioning who it is, you'll get your account cancelled? Tommy Robinson is a standing MEP.

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Facebook gave this reason:

“When ideas and opinions cross the line and amount to hate speech that may create an environment of intimidation and exclusion for certain groups in society – in some cases with potentially dangerous offline implications – we take action. Tommy Robinson’s Facebook page has repeatedly broken these standards, posting material that uses dehumanizing language and calls for violence targeted at Muslims. He has also behaved in ways that violate our policies around organized hate.”

They banned him after he disregarded previous written warnings.
If what Facebook said about your candidate is not true, why didn't he take Facebook to Court for slander?
 
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Here...hang on now, the guy with TR is giving the same sign as the aliens in The invaders....I don't like the look of that. Tommy Robinson's seen them now he has to convince a disbelieving world....
Must have been that that got his tweet deleted then.
 
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Breaking News...…..Euro Elections to go ahead on the 23rd of May, Government
confirms...….Interesting times.
To confirm, Guardian also:
Brexit: European elections in UK definitely going ahead, says Lidington – live news

Or, as "H" would say:

Brexit: European elections in UK definately going ahead, says Lidington – live news
 
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Facebook gave this reason:

“When ideas and opinions cross the line and amount to hate speech that may create an environment of intimidation and exclusion for certain groups in society – in some cases with potentially dangerous offline implications – we take action. Tommy Robinson’s Facebook page has repeatedly broken these standards, posting material that uses dehumanizing language and calls for violence targeted at Muslims. He has also behaved in ways that violate our policies around organized hate.”

They banned him after he disregarded previous written warnings.
If Tommy Robinson had ever done any hate speech or incited any violence, he'd have been in jail for it on the following day. He's never been convicted of anything like that. Youtube were also put under pressure to cancel his account, but they investigated and confirmed that he hadn't broken any of their terms and conditions, but without explanation, they shadow-banned him the day after the Panodrama vid.

There are substantial connections between the far right left wingers and Facebook. Nearly all the free-speech advocates have had their accounts deleted. What's happened now is that the far right left wingers have control over social media and they're using it to silence people they don't agree with. This is pretty serious stuff as far as democracy and free speech is concerned. You will see legislation shortly that will force them to be more neutral.
 
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What he wants is a debate on how the Quran should be interpreted and whether it's acceptable to have Shariah law in this country.
Why? A country can only have one law and we already have our UK legal system. Shariah law can and will never be legal in this country and its unlawful application in this country should be ruthlessly stamped out each time it's employed.

And the Quran is only applicable for Muslims. To the rest of us and our country it will always be irrelevant.
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