Brexit, for once some facts.

[Zlatan]

Farage is and always has been a distraction with loads more media coverage than actual leverage over anyone.

Come on then what are folk predicting? Will May have her 3rd vote??
If she does will it get through??
What will happen?
I reckon
On Mays vote... 80% chance of going ahead.
Failing... 70% / winning 30%.

End result.. No deal...70%
2nd ref.... 30%..
??
There are just too many options.. What a shambles.. End in site?? Markets seem to think so...

 

[jonathan.agnew]

Ask proper leavers. I am for soft brexit.
I suppose with the same old methods: education, training, robotising industries.. if they all fail, force prisoners and benefit claimaints to enroll in volunteering.

That does not sound very soft (outside north korea)? But if you replace prisoners and benefit claimants with brexiteers, im a convert.

 

[oldgroaner]

And there was I thinking he preferred to be paid in Euros.

Good point!

 

[oldgroaner]

Farage is and always has been a distraction with loads more media coverage than actual leverage over anyone.

Come on then what are folk predicting? Will May have her 3rd vote??
If she does will it get through??
What will happen?
I reckon
On Mays vote... 80% chance of going ahead.
Failing... 70% / winning 30%.

End result.. No deal...70%
2nd ref.... 30%..
??
There are just too many options.. What a shambles.. End in site?? Markets seem to think so...

No change to my prediction, there may be a delay that's all.

 

[oldgroaner]

Ask proper leavers. I am for soft brexit.
I suppose with the same old methods: education, training, robotising industries.. if they all fail, force prisoners and benefit claimaints to enroll in volunteering.

Bloody hell like being in the Army!
Force people into Volunteering? include me out!

 

[oldgroaner]

Ask proper leavers. I am for soft brexit.
I suppose with the same old methods: education, training, robotising industries.. if they all fail, force prisoners and benefit claimaints to enroll in volunteering.

And I am for no Brexit, and an enquiry, and then prosecute the traitors behind brexit wherever legal action is justified, and I mean jail sentences, not fines.

 

[Woosh]

Bloody hell like being in the Army!
Force people into Volunteering? include me out!

until now, our government relies on immigrants to increase GDP. If you hide the real number, you can have improvement of productivity (productivity = GDP/population).
Of course there is no free lunch, the day of reckoning was the referendum.
Once you stop immigrants from coming, they have to get the population to work harder.
People voted for it. May be you are right that pensioners who voted out should go back to work. If that fails too, devalue the Pound to make the rich a little richer.

 

[Fingers]

And I am for no Brexit, and an enquiry, and then prosecute the traitors behind brexit wherever legal action is justified, and I mean jail sentences, not fines.

Jail people for what?

You are deranged.

 

[Danidl]

What will happen if May does not hold a vote on Wednesday?

And for all folk saying ISIS brides should not return to countries of origin, what are the Kurds now looking after them in camps supposed to do with them??

Fair point about the ISIS people. On a rare occasion, I find myself in agreement with Mr Trump. These people should all be repatriated,and then subjected to whatever legal processes necessary. .. Where it is determined that they have broken laws.

 

[flecc]

Bloody hell like being in the Army!
Force people into Volunteering? include me out!

They've been doing this for many years. Back in the 1991 John Major recession with no jobs available, the Job Centres were pressurising unemployment benefit claimants to do voluntary work, with thinly veiled threats of losing benefits.

David Cameron's Big Society was policy following official fact.
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[flecc]

Jail people for what?

Start with Farage facing a charge of treason. In his last European Parliament speech he actively urged MEPs and EU leaders to block any request by the UK for an extension to article 50.
.

 

[Danidl]

Jail people for what?

You are deranged.

Obviously irony is not one of your talents. You don't recall banner headlines showing the judges of your courts being branded traitor . Selective memory is wonderful.

 

[Wicky]

That does not sound very soft (outside north korea)? But if you replace prisoners and benefit claimants with brexiteers, im a convert.

And don't forget the pensioners... Plenty of time sitting around twiddling their thumbs

 

[Fingers]

Start with Farage facing a charge of treason. In his last European Parliament speech he actively urged MEPs and EU leaders to block any request by the UK for an extension to article 50.
.

Erm...

I’m going to assume this is an attempt of humour that has failed.

That’s what I’m going to do.

 

[Wicky]

They've been doing this for many years. Back in the 1991 John Major recession with no jobs available, the Job Centres were pressurising unemployment benefit claimants to do voluntary work, with thinly veiled threats of losing benefits.

David Cameron's Big Society was policy following official fact.
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There were various schemes for long term unemployed to keep em stats, me included, as an unemployable ex art student. Locally there was one were (make) work groups went into woods to randomly chop down trees & burn em (all very Soviet Gulag), along with a loft insulation installation means tested scheme. I was lucky to be based in the office over a very cold Winter doing graphic design jobs (pre computer age) and a few years later had 6 months working as an archaeological draughtsman ( I enjoyed that spell using TD skills and got published as one of the Principle Illustrator http://cat.essex.ac.uk/reports/CAR-report-0007.pdf ).

 

[Woosh]

And don't forget the pensioners... Plenty of time sitting around twiddling their thumbs

erm.. I am one of them. I'd rather potter in the workshop doing something useful and I didn't even vote for brexit.

 

[oldgroaner]

Jail people for what?

You are deranged.

And you are thick, if you don't see what has been done against the national interest

 

[Woosh]

Rees-Mogg says he and ERG colleagues will back May's deal if they conclude no-deal Brexit no longer possible.
He still needs TM to spell it out.
We may see MV3 tomorrow but I still think she will still lose by 40-50.
After that, Labour will table Kyle Wilson's amendment.
Brexit may not happen after all.

 

[jonathan.agnew]

And I am for no Brexit, and an enquiry, and then prosecute the traitors behind brexit wherever legal action is justified, and I mean jail sentences, not fines.

I want to see farage digging for cockles, with his bare hands, somewhere off scarborough,in winter, during a high tide, on minimum wage.

 

[flecc]

I want to see farage digging for cockles, with his bare hands, somewhere off scarborough,in winter, during a high tide, on minimum wage.

Farage had long been finished anyway. His flopping great march on London reminds of the failed attempt at a River Thames protest against the deal on fishing. He didn't get TfL permission for that so the boat was unable to dock at any pier and Rees Mogg and co couldn't get on board to join in.

He'll become a disillusioned old man when it finally dawns there will be no true Brexit and even if a partial one happens, we'll still end up back in the EU later.
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