Brexit, for once some facts.

Danidl

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Have you ever tried buying an investment property? Procedures are very tight. You are required to provide a surprising amount of evidence to demonstrate how you obtained the money. It’s quite an in-depth and intrusive process. I don’t object to it at all, if it thwarts the drug scum money launderers.

I purchased a derelict pub which came with some land a few weeks ago and I’m still in the process of verifying the purchase funds. So it’s not quite the free for all imagined, but like everything, more could be done.
With respect, I expect that you are a decent law abiding citizen. People with deeper pockets and less morals invariably get around these petty obstacles. Money is powerful lubricant..even better than WD-40 on a seized cable. Particularly if one is discreet.
 
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Danidl

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Well there you go 50, ...what sound guidance from our resident remainers...what could possibly go wrong? !!

No doubt they will be on hand to Bail you out when you appear in front of the old bill!
You mistake world weary cynicism for actual advice. Note I was applauding his rectitude,not condemning it.
As someone who has always tried to do the right thing, I can appreciate his position.
 
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jonathan.agnew

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Noticed Faraged managed to demonstrate 3 things on his march other day.
A) British weather is pretty awful and not condusive to protests.

B),British psyche is rather different to French with regards protests.

C)How little influence he actually has over voters. I think I counted 47 of them, we could just about manage that.
Its difficult not to take a somewhat dim view of our collective psyche. But, on this occasion, i am quite grateful we dont have to cope with yellow vests as well as may's antics, and/or be party to her attempts to contrive protests into yet another disingenuous reason to be patriotic and support her bill, and/or cope with the hysterical rabble of mp's bombarding the electorate with even more improbable shite as a result.
 

Zlatan

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Its difficult not to take a somewhat dim view of our collective psyche. But, on this occasion, i am quite grateful we dont have to cope with yellow vests as well as may's antics, and/or be party to her attempts to contrive protests into yet another disingenuous reason to be patriotic and support her bill, and/or cope with the hysterical rabble of mp's bombarding the electorate with even more improbable shite as a result.
Totally agreed.
 

oldgroaner

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Well there you go 50, ...what sound guidance from our resident remainers...what could possibly go wrong? !!

No doubt they will be on hand to Bail you out when you appear in front of the old bill!
Tommie you are way out of order trying to put that much spin of what was said and what has it to do with remainers?

And I was observing the way the people you have supported by voting for Brexit have acted, surely even you could grasp that significance?
You really need to stop trying to score cheap points, it clouds your already poor judgement, there was no way Danidl or I were giving advice on how to break the law, only an idiot would draw that conclusion.
Did it have to be you?
 

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Whether you are a Remainer or Leaver ,do any of us trust Liam Fox to do a better job of trade deals than the EU.?
It seems such a terrible waste of 60 plus deals negotiated by the EU over many years to be replaced by 4 deals with less important countries....does anybody know how good these deals are for the U.K.?
The ERG say we must leave the customs union so as to be able to make our own trade deals ,unfortunately we appear not very good at doing this job alone.
KudosDave
 

Zlatan

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What will happen if May does not hold a vote on Wednesday?

And for all folk saying ISIS brides should not return to countries of origin, what are the Kurds now looking after them in camps supposed to do with them??
 

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Whether you are a Remainer or Leaver ,do any of us trust Liam Fox to do a better job of trade deals than the EU.?
It seems such a terrible waste of 60 plus deals negotiated by the EU over many years to be replaced by 4 deals with less important countries....does anybody know how good these deals are for the U.K.?
The ERG say we must leave the customs union so as to be able to make our own trade deals ,unfortunately we appear not very good at doing this job alone.
KudosDave
Fox can't do much until the we know which brexit we are going to get, if at all. Until then, the best he can do is to get a few countries to rollover EU's agreements.
Fundamental to brexit is the cost of brexit. If we choose a low cost option, we will become non-voting member of the EU, like Turkey or EFTA countries, just as well abandoning brexit and retaining the current concessions. If we choose a high cost option, we are banking on fast growth of British productivity and accepting lower standards that many see as unicorns.
 
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What will happen if May does not hold a vote on Wednesday?
TM will have to open up the discussion on extending A50.
She will be forced to accept JC's offer of support against his demand for a confirmatory referendum.
 
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Danidl

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What will happen if May does not hold a vote on Wednesday?

And for all folk saying ISIS brides should not return to countries of origin, what are the Kurds now looking after them in camps supposed to do with them??
I would doubt that that vote would be held this week.
 

oldgroaner

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Remember the Express Headline a couple of days ago 100,000 to march?
Brexit MARCH: Brexiteers continue 270-mile BETRAYAL rally against May's deal
BREXITEERS have continued Nigel Farage’s March to Leave by making their way from Hartlepool in County Durham to Middlesbrough demanding Britain leaves the EU as scheduled.
Some 200 marchers on day two of the walk, which will culminate in a mass Brexiteer gathering in central London on Brexit Day March 29, took about four hours to reach the overnight stop after being encouraged by non-stop beeping horns from passersby. They were led by the Brexit betrayal bus from which former Ukip leader Nigel Farage gave a rallying speech near Sunderland when he launched the march on Saturday. Leave Means Leave founder Richard Tice was at the head of the pack for the latest leg of the 270-mile journey. "

Let me point out that even 200 is likely to be an exaggeration, the picture of them on a bus shows the Express couldn't make them look like a crowd!
And why wasn't Farage leading the march, not Richard Tice?
Shades of the adage
"This is your leader speaking, I'm right behind you!"

The readers comments are quite incredible such as this
Gemma

It's a free country, well the last time I looked. The Remainers, are demonstrating on Friday, for another referendum. It's laughable, because these people claim to be educated! Spoilt brats, who have spat their dummies out and are now starting to throw the contents out of their pram. Getting your own way, all the time isn't good for you, throughout your life you have to experience disappointments and failures.

and this


"HAppytobeintheUK

Remoaners can only resort to insulting brexit voters, they call brexit voters the worst kind yet, don't see their own behaviour as extremist ! Corbyn assisting remoaners in stitching up this country into remaining in the EU. His amendment is : If TM deal the Government have to have a 2nd ref for the people to decided. In insisting on a 2nd ref it will mean that although TM stated 3 months for all technical issues to be signed off, Corbyn and co with this amendment knows this will mean a much longer delay so that a 2nd ref can be held. A 2nd ref manipulating the people to either accept TM deal or Remain. The MPs will NOT allow Leave on the ballot paper! With Corbyns sole aim to bring down the government to get in number 10!"


Apparently it's extremist to have a different view?
It's a Farce, and so is Brexit
 
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oldgroaner

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Fox can't do much until the we know which brexit we are going to get, if at all. Until then, the best he can do is to get a few countries to rollover EU's agreements.
Fundamental to brexit is the cost of brexit. If we choose a low cost option, we will become non-voting member of the EU, like Turkey or EFTA countries, just as well abandoning brexit and retaining the current concessions. If we choose a high cost option, we are banking on fast growth of British productivity and accepting lower standards that many see as unicorns.
And where does the "Fast growth of British Productivity" come from?
 

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where does the "Fast growth of British Productivity" come from?
Ask proper leavers. I am for soft brexit.
I suppose with the same old methods: education, training, robotising industries.. if they all fail, force prisoners and benefit claimaints to enroll in volunteering.
 
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