You are showing your age Woosh! These days they are called data miners!
I don't think the EU data protection and customer protection authorities will see eye to eye with Google on having 7,000 data collectors in London on the EU's doorstep.
Brexit, for once some facts.
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I don't think the EU data protection and customer protection authorities will see eye to eye with Google on having 7,000 data collectors in London on the EU's doorstep.
That's the case at moment but can't see those opposing May sticking to their guns as they wake up to fact there will not be a better deal and alternative is no deal or remain. (DUP want out don't forget)
Forcing May to ref2 chances are it will mean remain... But like everyone else I, m only guessing.
I think May will scrape her deal through. Its all part of Fiasco trying to improve offer.. But we will see..
He used to post more regularly and has hundreds of post to his name, but then changed to only occasional comment. His last post was in this thread a year ago and was characteristically brief, just two words of three letters each.
Here it is
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We might be agreeing here also. There is no requirement for a second UK referendum, that is window dressing . She can say with a level of honesty, that she has honoured her pledge to negotiate a Brexit which respects the result of the first referendum..and it was the parliament which thwarted her.
What the DUP want is to hold faith with a UK union,and to remain in union with the British Conservative party,which they believe is their best assurance . Staying in political union with the UK is the red line issue. They ,their supporters , do not particularly want a Brexit,in fact they are now caught in a dilemma as their supporters do not want to lose their access to Europe
Using a head wand is tiring.
He’s best just pressing dislike. It’s easier and still keeps him current.
I like his style.
He doesn't just press Dislike, I get the opposite, 16 Agrees, some Likes and a couple of Funnies in the last two days alone.
I think he's sensible in expressing himself via other people's typing effort just with clicks. Much less effort.
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What's so bad about 'no-deal'? 6 months minor chaos before things settle down. Plenty of perfectly sensible people tell me its not the problem 'Project FEAR' tell us it will be. Out means out and all that. It's what - basically - we voted for.
It is entirely his choice how, or whether, to participate here. His choices of reaction might express what he wishes to communicate at least as well as many of the typed replies here. And I do include my own.
Let's see how.. They may very well be decent sensible people,but this is something outside your, their and my experience.,so sensible they may be but prudent is not the adjective I would add. .
If the UK had been bounced into a war footing, against their will, and without planning then the response of stuff upper lip, gritting teeth and making the best of a rum deal and just getting on with it would be a justified reaction. But that is not the situation .
A " no deal" means a" no deal ", not a lesser deal but a no deal. There are no contingencies set up, no reciprocal landing right, no customs posts set up, no mechanisms for checking goods, no insurance provisions . That is not a project fear scenario, that is the current situation. Have you seen the diggers in place carving out the lorry parks? Have you seen the tenders for provision of new IT services. The only sign of a no deal is that prospective civil servants may be asked to work overtime!. And this for what is reckoned as the most serious event in 70 years, and starting in 3 months time!.
And yet again and for the very very slow learners out there . The British people who voted produced virtually a balance between leave and remain... 600,000 people out of 34,000,000 ticked one box differently than the other. They did not necessarily want a no plan , no deal situation.
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no deal will cause instant devaluation of the Pound to anticipate the cost of disruption, followed by about 3% inflation for 2-3 years. Basically, if you don't have much assets like the poorer 90% of Brits, you'll be robbed about 10% within 2-3 years. At the same time, car factories will have to cut production because they can't sell the same number of cars. Possibly up to 400,000 people may have to change jobs, become fruit pickers, waiters, cooks, cleaners etc.
Any deal with the EU will bring the NI open border back to the negotiating table. This is because the EU does not want UK's access to their Single Market by the backdoor.
No deal brexit won't last long before the tories will suffer the most stinging defeat. It can be matters of months.
Any following administration will have to commit to the EU's customs union.
I don't think it does communicate his thoughts, but as you say it is his right to do it that way. problem is he lacks any credibility if he doesn't present a viewpoint.
More ineresting background of what the leave campaign was doing was where the Vote Leave illegal and legal funds were going.
"Vote Leave called them Advanced Skills Initiative Ltd - ASI Data Science, essentially Top Gun for PhD scientists, submitted four invoices totalling £114,881 for 'data & polling analysis' but Vote Leave submitted £72,081 for advertising & market research!
ASI had developed an analysis software platform called "Sherlock" which could analyse data such as live video and automatically flag up Daesh propaganda with the intent of excluding it from the internet.
Using this level of sophistication and speed it would be a simple matter to screen a huge number of individuals if you had enough access to their private information, likes, dislikes and inclination to target them at an appropriate time that you could assume a high probability of exerting at the very least enthusiam for an agenda for which they had previously shown a sympathetic inclination, or were undecided about.
Regardless of anything else the evidence is damning that Vote leave stepped well outside the envelope of acceptable Political campaigning and over the boundary into running nothing less
Than a Military Grade Dark Psy Ops Campaign to mislead the public by using secretly obtained private data that should have been protected by the law of the land from their illegal access and abuse of it.
Every individual involved should face trial over their actions
"Vote Leave called them Advanced Skills Initiative Ltd - ASI Data Science, essentially Top Gun for PhD scientists, submitted four invoices totalling £114,881 for 'data & polling analysis' but Vote Leave submitted £72,081 for advertising & market research!
ASI had developed an analysis software platform called "Sherlock" which could analyse data such as live video and automatically flag up Daesh propaganda with the intent of excluding it from the internet.
Using this level of sophistication and speed it would be a simple matter to screen a huge number of individuals if you had enough access to their private information, likes, dislikes and inclination to target them at an appropriate time that you could assume a high probability of exerting at the very least enthusiam for an agenda for which they had previously shown a sympathetic inclination, or were undecided about.
Regardless of anything else the evidence is damning that Vote leave stepped well outside the envelope of acceptable Political campaigning and over the boundary into running nothing less
Than a Military Grade Dark Psy Ops Campaign to mislead the public by using secretly obtained private data that should have been protected by the law of the land from their illegal access and abuse of it.
Every individual involved should face trial over their actions
JC is tactically helping the ERG.
If the UK falls off the cliff, the tories are going be be severely punished at the next GE.
Labour will benefit from the chaos of no deal brexit.
But that was voting for what wasn't possible, and why there never should have been a referendum with an impossibility in the choice.
Very early in this thread I posted that leaving the EU after 44 years of membership was a virtual impossibility. Now in the chaos we have everyone can see how true that is.
There was a big clue earlier in the Great Repeal Bill. Faced with the total impossibility of replacing 44 years of countless EU laws, that bill used the expediency of passing them all fully into UK law. However, that meant that all the laws within that having the ECJ as the final arbiter meant we couldn't escape its rulings, in turn making a nonsense of those saying we were getting rid of the ECJ.
Then of course are the many things that we want to retain from EU membership, such as access to all the scientific projects, benefits for our citizens there including their freedom to travel and medical treatment, uninterupted parts flow for the factories here manufacturing for the EU, common standards for our goods to be accepted. Access for our all important services business.
All these and many more mean we cannot just be out, we have to remain very integrated in a vast number of complex interacting ways.
Truly getting out means we lose everything in all those ways and suffer extreme hardship while we endeavour to make trade deals elsewhere. That is why parliament won't even contemplate a No Deal departure, it's not project fear, it's simple inevitability.
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It does seem agreement for ref2 is growing but the advocates of that really should tell His Toniness to shut up and go away. Whatever he tells country to do, I, m fairly sure the country simply has further evidence not to do it. I really think powers in tory party pay him to make his proclamations. He is so universally disliked now people will do the opposite of what he preaches..
Yes, he really can be the kiss of death now. I don't think any from the past should be assuming they know better, so I'd prefer Major and Heseltine shut up as well.
They've all had their time and didn't exactly distinguish themselves then in what they did.
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I, m not disagreeing with this. A no deal would be damaging but to be fair nobody really knows to what extent and the damage card has been over played too many times. Crying wolf and all that.
The big mistake we have made however is letting everyone know we are afraid of a no deal. EU should have thought we wanted no deal and to hell with it. Our own MPs told the whole world we would not accept no deal and then expected May to go and get a better deal...
We have played into their hands. Its like bluffing at poker but telling table we had a pair of 3s..Jack high. Against their full house.
On Robdon. If genuine I applaud his ability to keep his powder dry and simply express himself through likes dislikes.
However, I often wonder if his reluctance to post is more to do with hiding a distinct writing style that would show his other identity.
There was a slip a few hundred posts back . Two posters had crossed posts. One apologised to other, and Robdon agreed with apology...???
Perhaps a genuine slip? Why would a 3rd party agree with an apology..??? The agree disappeared fairly quickly.???
There are bound to be dual Id's on Forum... Spotting them is not impossible.
However, I often wonder if his reluctance to post is more to do with hiding a distinct writing style that would show his other identity.
There was a slip a few hundred posts back . Two posters had crossed posts. One apologised to other, and Robdon agreed with apology...???
Perhaps a genuine slip? Why would a 3rd party agree with an apology..??? The agree disappeared fairly quickly.???
There are bound to be dual Id's on Forum... Spotting them is not impossible.
Brexit is simply a liability not just to us, but to Europe as well
illegally obtained for illegal purposes.
There are two enemy elements working against the national interest, International right wing enemies within and Putin manipulating them in turn using finance as leverage to operate as useful idiots to destabilise Europe
A war has been waged against the nation and if we persist with Brexit we will have lost, no matter what we do as damage limitation
illegally obtained for illegal purposes.
There are two enemy elements working against the national interest, International right wing enemies within and Putin manipulating them in turn using finance as leverage to operate as useful idiots to destabilise Europe
A war has been waged against the nation and if we persist with Brexit we will have lost, no matter what we do as damage limitation