Your attitude shows only selfish motivation, without caring about the collateral damage, doesn't it?
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Brexit, for once some facts.
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Are you expecting anyone to take that remark seriously? why would we want to do that? why for instance if that troubled us didn't we recruit them from outside the EU and thus not have EU people coming in?
And why do you imagine that employers here will either pay more for local workers or fascist goons from the Conservative party force British workers into doing low paid jobs to suit your pocket?
All that will happen is the flood gates will open to non EU workers instead with the Governments blessing , so no change there.
And already India has said that free movement for it's citizens is a condition of any trade agreement
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INDIA'S BREXIT DEMAND
India to demand easier migration to the UK for Brexit free trade deal
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5994207/india-to-demand-easier-migration-to-the-uk-for-brexit-free-trade-deal/
The country's high commissioner to the UK warns a free trade deal will mean opening our borders to Indian migrants
You really need to do some research before posting second hand propaganda
How will we block them? Low skilled workers have been coming here from outside the EU for years and still are coming here, but now in greater numbers. We have complete control over non-EU immigration, but are entirely incompetent at enforcing those controls. What makes you think we will be more successful with EU migrants?
I saw a market trader discussing Brexit on TV the other day. A real ass-hole. Every answer given to any question asked was, “This is Great Britain not France.” It didn’t matter what was asked, the answer was the same. Was that market trader you by any chance?
It only cost us our steel industry, have you been living on the moon?
I was including trains, light rail and trams of course, which don't rely on batteries. And the hydrogen production using electricity is inefficient and expensive
We have already achieved pumping high pressure hydrogen into vehicle tanks, there's already filling stations for the Toyota Mirai hydrogen car.
Here's a link of a trip the length of Britain in a Mirai.
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Absolutely! The same syndrome is applicable to all other government-controlled, directly or indirectly, services.
When our firefighters were unable to fight the Grenfell Tower because of local government insulating on the cheap; when police state publicly that they have insufficient resources to respond to every type of crime; when prisons and hospitals are so denuded of staff that they cannot cope with their core functions, particularly after a decade of austerity for those people on PAYE with no ability to cheat on their tax bill, then it is time to take stock.
However, when the generals state publicly that the biggest threat to the UK is Russia, that is simply a lie to generate more of the cake for the military, but it works! It works in exactly the same way as it does in the USA when MIT claim they have made a breakthrough with a new, revolutionary battery type. They will receive funding from the military budget on scant evidence which will be replenished in turn from government coffers…..and so it goes on.
Capitalism in the UK demands that there should be no publicly-funded and owned utilities or departments of state which could be in the hands of profit-oriented cartels such as Carillion or Interserve. We can look further afield at our rail network which under private ownership is regressing to pre-1948 levels of service when not all regional railways even ran on the same track width.
The current government, as with previous tory administrations, seems to have no problem with the state running our railways and making a profit - just so long as it isn't our state!
We can vote for more of the same or we can elect the Labour party. Until we do the right thing and adopt PR, we are stuck with those choices.
Tom
I thought Zog perhaps but in principle, we are agreed that there is a certain detachment from the reality of life on Earth where this contributor is concerned.
Tom
Some of us were hoping he was the astute one. Not that I am French or I vote or...
On a lighter note, I have seen or heard many definitions of 'Brexit'. This one is more amusing than many:
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Indeed, that was how he portrayed himself, but I quickly saw before the French that he was just an empty vessel, a sort of French Tony Blair.
Like Blair, promising a new way without saying or knowing what that might be.
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Oh, there's definitely an amazing similarity both in tone and delivery between what I have read today from Jennifer Jenkins and another correspondent from not long ago. I can feel it in my water!
Someone who was laughed at and generally derided on account of his views expressed in these pages. It isn't a case of 'Jekyll and Hyde', more of a 'Hyde and Hyde', I'd say with this person.
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Someone who was laughed at and generally derided on account of his views expressed in these pages. It isn't a case of 'Jekyll and Hyde', more of a 'Hyde and Hyde', I'd say with this person.
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There is no tariff on wine from the EU to the UK. There may be HMRC excise and duty, frankly I don't know but that is a UK tax not an EU one.
I have the same suspicion Tom.
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Yes we are the ones who tax wine heavily, not the EU:
on a bottle that costs £5.50:
- £2 duty.
- £0.92 VAT
- £1.15 profit for the importer and retailer
- 85p for the wine, bottling and transport
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B-liar!….has he said something new? Why hasn't he been taken into custody yet? Harold Shipman was the UK's most prolific murderer, convicted of 15 but almost certainly guilty of in excess of 250 killings…..until B-liar came along and eclipsed Shipman's total, with a figure, according to educated estimates, running into the millions.
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Quite fun when you think about it, disguises really need new propaganda material and a change of style
The leave campaign is scraping under the barrel of late.
Sometimes we read a line or two that says something important, strongly and clearly.
They’re chasing May’s leadership – but statesmanship is what we need now
Matthew d'Ancona
Our politicians are failing to rise to the challenge of finding a calm solution to the Brexit crisis in these populist times
The right to think again is a foundation stone of any civilised society. Yet the Brexiteers treat the referendum result as though it were a cross between a sequel to Magna Carta and the most sacred pinky-promise in the history of the world. This is politics reduced to toddler talk. Most MPs I have spoken to are somewhere on a spectrum that is the political equivalent of the Kübler-Ross five-stage model of grief: denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance. Some (though very few in private) really think that the deal is the best agreement the UK could have achieved. Others (Brexiteers and remainers alike) see it is an unconscionable betrayal.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/dec/09/theresa-may-leadership-brexit-crisis-pm
(This is only one paragraph from the middle of the column.)
They’re chasing May’s leadership – but statesmanship is what we need now
Matthew d'Ancona
Our politicians are failing to rise to the challenge of finding a calm solution to the Brexit crisis in these populist times
The right to think again is a foundation stone of any civilised society. Yet the Brexiteers treat the referendum result as though it were a cross between a sequel to Magna Carta and the most sacred pinky-promise in the history of the world. This is politics reduced to toddler talk. Most MPs I have spoken to are somewhere on a spectrum that is the political equivalent of the Kübler-Ross five-stage model of grief: denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance. Some (though very few in private) really think that the deal is the best agreement the UK could have achieved. Others (Brexiteers and remainers alike) see it is an unconscionable betrayal.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/dec/09/theresa-may-leadership-brexit-crisis-pm
(This is only one paragraph from the middle of the column.)
You better believe it! This cretin had the most crass placard on public display today.
I think he should have been detained and questioned at least.
Tom