Brexit, for once some facts.

oldgroaner

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Lets focus on this aspect of Brexit
The number of Opportunities are not the problem
The problems are far worse than that.
  1. We have demonstrated an appallingly poor performance when it comes to international negotiations, so to get favorable trade deals will be like knitting Fog and drag on for years
  2. We lack capable companies willing to take risks with design manufacturing and supply of modern products made with modern techniques and supported by modern supply chains
  3. It's a far better bet to invest in the far east for a quick low risk return, and our investor class are not people you could accuse of Patriotism
Basically we are a third world nation with first world notions of it's own superiority.
The sooner we get back into the EU the sooner we limit the damage we have done to our future
the new/different opportunity to trade with other economic spheres (Trans Pacific, North and South America, Common Wealth etc) do not need to rely on any particular new factor other than our well known legal system, we are much smaller than the EU, more flexible, more practical than the average EU state after we leave.
 

oldgroaner

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the new/different opportunity to trade with other economic spheres (Trans Pacific, North and South America, Common Wealth etc) do not need to rely on any particular new factor other than our well known legal system, we are much smaller than the EU, more flexible, more practical than the average EU state after we leave.
More flexible and more practical? I really can't see what evidence there is for that, perhaps you can give some indication of what you mean?
 
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anotherkiwi

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I suspect that the Brexit debacle was also present in those questions. I had occasion some few years ago to go to the medical social services offices in Pontivy, for reclaims on some medical expenses. The EC111 card would have been in play. My engagement with the ladies in that office could not have been more cordial. Perhaps they wanted to improve their English language skills... .
Here the second language is Basque or Spanish :)
 
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anotherkiwi

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Our dependence on the EU for food compared with the rest of the World
From what I have read you don't have enough food even now to feed all your children, some go to school hungry :rolleyes:
 
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oldgroaner

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have a look around, Not many people look malnourished
Here is something even someone who prefers not to be called an idiot can understand

"The UK’s biggest food bank network, the Trussell Trust, provided more than a million three-day food supplies over the past year, including 415,866 to children.

You see I can be polite!:cool:
 

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May’s deal is already dead,Grieve has blocked no deal,Rudd’s Norway plus looks less control and more costly,involvement of the ECJ.....so where do we go after next Tuesday?
The 3 biggest donors of Vote Leave are fed up with what the Tories have done with Brexit,they think their £5million was a waste,they reckon that Remain is the best option now.
KudosDave.
 

oldgroaner

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Half of voters in North back a united Ireland after May’s Brexit

From today's Times (Irish edition). If no deal 55% of NI voters would support a United Ireland including crucially 11% of people who identify as "unionists". Can we nominate the DUP for a Darwin award?
 
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