You don't have to go back to the 1970s. The default police car in Belfast today does not look dissimilar,except it is painted white. And Tommie, there are 8 times more people living in Paris than in all of NI.What's so different, first thought is of the British Army in Northern Ireland in the 1970s, and your second photo reminds me of the riots here in Croydon, this being one small sample of the damage:
Brexit, for once some facts.
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And meanwhile back in the real world.??
Are people sick of it all. Never heard a peep about it last night...
And meanwhile back in the real world.??
Are people sick of it all. Never heard a peep about it last night...
Forget your favourite propaganda nonsense for a moment
Read my post
#41110 And try desperately hard to understand what your vote for Brexit means
Outside the EU as I pointed out we have no influence whatever over the way Europe developes
As Churchill said about Dunkirk
Wars are not won by evacuations,
It's a pity that we have learned so little from history that we are evacuating from Europe again.
Now that is a Classic propaganda ploy, the abject straight up lie.
The headline is
"
LIZ JONES: In the real world of my 52/48 voting Essex home town all (bar two!) want MPs to back Theresa May's Brexit deal"
Everyone backs May's deal do they?
The reality is in the UGov poll there are 112 Brexit voting areas that have changed sides, and coming in at number 73..............
73. Chelmsford: moved from 49% for remain to 55% for remain!
A Philosophical question in the Telegraph where Brexit confidence is not shall we say at an all time high
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If Parliament manages to thwart Brexit, why would voters ever trust it again?
Charles Moore"
Because it had the courage to protect a nation that had been conned into sleepwalking into disaster, and doing it's sworn duty to protect the nation from threats , both external and internal, perchance?
And here's another sad little note
The vile snobs who wrecked Brexit will answer to an insulted people
Janet Daley
Who may even be numerous enough to fill the lower deck on Farage's latest campaign bus?
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If Parliament manages to thwart Brexit, why would voters ever trust it again?
Charles Moore"
Because it had the courage to protect a nation that had been conned into sleepwalking into disaster, and doing it's sworn duty to protect the nation from threats , both external and internal, perchance?
And here's another sad little note
The vile snobs who wrecked Brexit will answer to an insulted people
Janet Daley
Who may even be numerous enough to fill the lower deck on Farage's latest campaign bus?
Offer of the Day in the Daily Mail
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Back me or get Jeremy Corbyn and no Brexit: Theresa May warns against voting down deal
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Back me or get Jeremy Corbyn and no Brexit: Theresa May warns against voting down deal
Another one quits - who knew?
Never heard of him? Neither had I until I read this:
another-minister-quits-over-brexit-whos-next
There's a saying…..something to do with sinking ships and rats…?
Tom
Never heard of him? Neither had I until I read this:
another-minister-quits-over-brexit-whos-next
There's a saying…..something to do with sinking ships and rats…?
Tom
Hunt speaks to the times
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UK foreign secretary: Reversing Brexit could lead to Paris-style riots
A second referendum could spark ‘real social instability,’ Jeremy Hunt warned.
By Zoya Sheftalovich
12/7/18, 12:09 PM CET
Updated 12/7/18, 12:15 PM CET
The British parliament must be "very careful" not to “get out of step with where the public are on Brexit” or risk "real social instability," U.K. Foreign Secretary Jeremy Hunt told the Times on Friday.
Urging MPs to back Prime Minister Theresa May's divorce deal in their crunch vote Tuesday, Hunt said lawmakers must "not just think about what our own views on Brexit are, but we have to think what is the solution that is going to bring the country together."
I don't suppose it occurs to him that we face even worse riots AFTER Brexit?
Whatever is done now there will be trouble
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UK foreign secretary: Reversing Brexit could lead to Paris-style riots
A second referendum could spark ‘real social instability,’ Jeremy Hunt warned.
By Zoya Sheftalovich
12/7/18, 12:09 PM CET
Updated 12/7/18, 12:15 PM CET
The British parliament must be "very careful" not to “get out of step with where the public are on Brexit” or risk "real social instability," U.K. Foreign Secretary Jeremy Hunt told the Times on Friday.
Urging MPs to back Prime Minister Theresa May's divorce deal in their crunch vote Tuesday, Hunt said lawmakers must "not just think about what our own views on Brexit are, but we have to think what is the solution that is going to bring the country together."
I don't suppose it occurs to him that we face even worse riots AFTER Brexit?
Whatever is done now there will be trouble
This is getting like the old "Ten green bottles sitting on a wall song"
All French military vehicles have the EU flag on them - the army is proud to be in the EU.
In other news Molotov cocktails, baseball bats, slingshots and other various clubs, knives and iron bars are considered to be weapons. Did you see on TV the person with the battery powered angle grinder attacking ATMs?
The police are defending people and property from casseurs (the ones wearing the masks), most of whom have nothing to do with the protest but who are just out for a bit of wanton destruction and ultra violence. Anyone can wear a high-vis vest.
A word of advise: people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
One of the Tory lords quoted a passage from "The Hunting of the Snark"in the debate yesterday, this is the passage he took an extract from
Quite appropriate if you view May as the Captain (Bellman)
"
He had bought a large map representing the sea,
Without the least vestige of land:
And the crew were much pleased when they found it to be
A map they could all understand.
"What's the good of Mercator's North Poles and Equators,
Tropics, Zones, and Meridian Lines?"
So the Bellman would cry: and the crew would reply
"They are merely conventional signs!
"Other maps are such shapes, with their islands and capes!
But we've got our brave Captain to thank:
(So the crew would protest) "that he's bought us the best--
A perfect and absolute blank!"
This was charming, no doubt; but they shortly found out
That the Captain they trusted so well
Had only one notion for crossing the ocean,
And that was to tingle his bell.
He was thoughtful and grave--but the orders he gave
Were enough to bewilder a crew.
When he cried "Steer to starboard, but keep her head larboard!"
What on earth was the helmsman to do?
Then the bowsprit got mixed with the rudder sometimes:
A thing, as the Bellman remarked,
That frequently happens in tropical climes,
When a vessel is, so to speak, "snarked."
But the principal failing occurred in the sailing,
And the Bellman, perplexed and distressed,
Said he had hoped, at least, when the wind blew due East,
That the ship would not travel due West!
He quoted the last paragraph by the way
Quite appropriate if you view May as the Captain (Bellman)
"
He had bought a large map representing the sea,
Without the least vestige of land:
And the crew were much pleased when they found it to be
A map they could all understand.
"What's the good of Mercator's North Poles and Equators,
Tropics, Zones, and Meridian Lines?"
So the Bellman would cry: and the crew would reply
"They are merely conventional signs!
"Other maps are such shapes, with their islands and capes!
But we've got our brave Captain to thank:
(So the crew would protest) "that he's bought us the best--
A perfect and absolute blank!"
This was charming, no doubt; but they shortly found out
That the Captain they trusted so well
Had only one notion for crossing the ocean,
And that was to tingle his bell.
He was thoughtful and grave--but the orders he gave
Were enough to bewilder a crew.
When he cried "Steer to starboard, but keep her head larboard!"
What on earth was the helmsman to do?
Then the bowsprit got mixed with the rudder sometimes:
A thing, as the Bellman remarked,
That frequently happens in tropical climes,
When a vessel is, so to speak, "snarked."
But the principal failing occurred in the sailing,
And the Bellman, perplexed and distressed,
Said he had hoped, at least, when the wind blew due East,
That the ship would not travel due West!
He quoted the last paragraph by the way
Our MPs have, over the years, quite regularly voted for policies which would never have been agreed to in a plebiscite. Even such mundane issues as tax rates. We do not have delegates but representatives - an important distinction.
Wrecking of brexit has only occurred by the way it was promoted, pushed, and wantonly mis-sold with completely unreal "promises". Even then, the actual process of A50 and negotiating has been absolutely mis-understood and mis-managed in the extreme. It is those who offered and supported brexit who have wrecked brexit by their own mis-deeds.
If, and I say this whilst openly admitting I don't know what will actually happen, there are serious issues with food and medicine supplies, Paris could look like a kindergarten.
If Kent ends up as a lorry park will all those affected do nothing?
Contains the line " What I tell you three times is true." only once.
Whereas "Just the place for a Snark!" is said thrice. And claimed to be true by virtue of that.
Looking at the poem it takes on the aspect of a Nostradamus quatrain applied to our present Brexit situation!
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/dec/08/paris-police-flood-streets-gilets-jaunes
Reasonably balanced - extracts:
Small groups of gilets jaunes from the extremist fringe of the grassroots movement
determined not to let casseurs – vandals and hooligans – have their way again
young men dressed in black and wearing masks and scarves
Nothing to do with the original protest against increased petrol tax on diesel. The right wing Republicans are calling for a referendum, well now what a surprise, who is their consultant on that one? Marine le Pen demanding the president to demission, dissolve parliament and general elections... <yawn>
Interesting map on TV yesterday, imagine France divided into three vertically, the centre region being the yellow vest area. No public transport. Little to no industry. Rural desertification.
Reasonably balanced - extracts:
Small groups of gilets jaunes from the extremist fringe of the grassroots movement
determined not to let casseurs – vandals and hooligans – have their way again
young men dressed in black and wearing masks and scarves
Nothing to do with the original protest against increased petrol tax on diesel. The right wing Republicans are calling for a referendum, well now what a surprise, who is their consultant on that one? Marine le Pen demanding the president to demission, dissolve parliament and general elections... <yawn>
Interesting map on TV yesterday, imagine France divided into three vertically, the centre region being the yellow vest area. No public transport. Little to no industry. Rural desertification.
"Dear Pig, are you willing to sell for one shilling
Your ring?" Said the Piggy, "I will." [1]
So they took it away, and were married next day [*]
By the Turkey who lives on the hill. [2]
They dined on mince, and slices of quince, [3]
Which they ate with a runcible spoon; [4]
And hand in hand, on the edge of the sand,
They danced by the light of the moon,
The moon,
The moon,
They danced by the light of the moon. [5]
[1] Ring being an obvious reference to the EU flag with the ring of gold stars.
[*] Probably some obscure reference.
[2] Coming up to Christmas, anything a turkey does is suspect.
[3] OK – so we have the Quince, who will be the mince?
[4] Clearly a reference to the HoC mace, and possibly Heseltine?
[5] Prediction of the state at least in NI when electricity become unavailable and they (we?) have to make do with moonlight.